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Did anyone try Neverwet on their D* dish yet?


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#1 OFFLINE   SBI

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 08:51 AM

And if so, is there any negative effect on reception?

 

This product looks very promising to me in the way of preventing snow buildup during heavy snow. When this happens I need to take my long witch broom and clean the dish through the top of my dining room double-hung window while standing on a chair. Not a pleasant thing to do, and it usually happens at night.

 

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 10:56 AM

And if so, is there any negative effect on reception?

 

This product looks very promising to me in the way of preventing snow buildup during heavy snow. When this happens I need to take my long witch broom and clean the dish through the top of my dining room double-hung window while standing on a chair. Not a pleasant thing to do, and it usually happens at night.

 

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How do you think the ability to repel water would affect snow buildup?   If it is liquid, it would run off on its own, wouldn't it?    I guess it is worth a try, but as a total non scientist, and in a non scientific way, it doesn't make much sense to me.   



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:13 AM

Probably a waste of money, unless it helps snow slide off.   A wet dish isn't a problem.  It's the rain/snow between your dish and the satellites that causes problems.  


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 12:15 PM

I know that a wet dish is not the issue. I don't have a problem when it just rains, only when there are severe thunderstorms in the dish's path.

My problem with snow is that when we have heavy (and wet) snow, it builds up on the dish and the LNB (for some reason I never had this problem with the smaller non-HD dish) and unless I clean the dish we have no reception. I assume that applying this to the dish and LNB will prevent snow to stick to them.



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:51 PM

I know that a wet dish is not the issue. I don't have a problem when it just rains, only when there are severe thunderstorms in the dish's path.

My problem with snow is that when we have heavy (and wet) snow, it builds up on the dish and the LNB (for some reason I never had this problem with the smaller non-HD dish) and unless I clean the dish we have no reception. I assume that applying this to the dish and LNB will prevent snow to stick to them.

That's my point, how do you know it has any effect on snow at all?    Totally different characteristics from water.   Lighter, fluffier (a scientific term), etc.    Try it, let us know, although if it snows heavily in Coral Gables, FL, I suspect I will have much bigger problems than losing my picture.



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Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:57 PM

I would think Pam would work better than Neverwet for keeping snow off a dish.  After all wax doesn't keep snow off your car does it?  Wax does pretty much what Neverwet does.


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:04 PM

They make heaters for the dishes and the people that have installed one swear by them.

 

Instead of a broom, try a kids Super Soaker with soapy water in it to get the snow off after it gets on it.


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Posted 14 September 2013 - 07:52 PM

I would think Pam would work better than Neverwet for keeping snow off a dish.  After all wax doesn't keep snow off your car does it?  Wax does pretty much what Neverwet does.

Pam would attract birds and the like.  as far as wax  keeping snow off the car, here is proof  

 

But yet, my dish has not a drop of snow!!!!!

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:01 AM

I know that a wet dish is not the issue. I don't have a problem when it just rains, only when there are severe thunderstorms in the dish's path.

My problem with snow is that when we have heavy (and wet) snow, it builds up on the dish and the LNB (for some reason I never had this problem with the smaller non-HD dish) and unless I clean the dish we have no reception. I assume that applying this to the dish and LNB will prevent snow to stick to them.

 

I watched a youtube on the stuff, looks like it's worth a try. 



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 02:23 PM

I watched a youtube on the stuff, looks like it's worth a try. 

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 05:45 PM

Sure if you want to waste your money

 

Care to elaborate why it would be a waste of money?



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 05:51 PM

The amount that you'd need to cover a dish costs less than $10. If he wants to try it, why not?

 

I don't know that trying it would tell you if it works, unless you have a 'control' dish that is unsprayed. Maybe if you have a next door neighbor with a dish at the same height that tends to accumulate snow in an identical manner if one of you tries it you can see if it makes a difference. I could see it maybe working for freezing rain and maybe that wet snow that falls when it is right near freezing. But if it really bothers you a dish heater would seem to be a better solution.

 

Does anyone have any photos of what a dish looks like when it causes signal loss? I've seen my dish with snow in it before or coated with an inch of ice, neither caused any reception issues. Are those of you with problems getting so much snow it is burying the dish from underneath? If that's the case, obviously even if Neverwet works to keep the snow off it won't stop your dish from being buried, any more than neverwet would stop your dish from being underwater if you put it in your pool :)


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 06:27 PM

The amount that you'd need to cover a dish costs less than $10. If he wants to try it, why not?

 

I don't know that trying it would tell you if it works, unless you have a 'control' dish that is unsprayed.

But if it really bothers you a dish heater would seem to be a better solution.

 

Are those of you with problems getting so much snow it is burying the dish from underneath? If that's the case, obviously even if Neverwet works to keep the snow off it won't stop your dish from being buried, any more than neverwet would stop your dish from being underwater if you put it in your pool :)

 

I am not worried about the cost or whether or not it'll solve the problem, I don't mind at all the $18 that it costs to try it. I am concerned that the coat, not knowing the material and what it does, will decrease or interrupt signal.

I would probably opt for a dish heater but I do not have AC plug anywhere around it.

 

Also, my dish is high, more than 10 ft. from the ground. It never gets buried in snow, however during heavy wet snow, snow accumulates on the dish and the LNB and that cuts my signal. So I am hoping that Neverwet can 'prevent' heavy snow from sticking to the dish/LNB.


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Posted 15 September 2013 - 08:53 PM

But yet, my dish has not a drop of snow!!!!!

But your D* van sure does. :)

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 11:32 PM

I always assumed dish heaters used a coaxial cable for power similar to a power injector for a SWM LNB? Or do they use too much current for RG6 to carry?

 

If they use coaxial cable you wouldn't need an AC outlet anywhere, just a spare/additional cable...


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 05:32 AM

When I lived in the Sierras, I'd need to clean the wet snow off the dish & LNB. It seemed I was on snow removal and would have to wait to watch the recording later.

Sometimes there wasn't that much on the reflector, but since it's the sum of everything between the SAT & LNB, the dish was all I could change.

 

I've seen a photo of a dish with 6" of snow buildup, and the claim of no signal loss. All I can think was that was very dry snow, as I can blank out signal on a sunny day with a wet towel.

 

Dish heater seem to be the best option if snow is a regular problem.

 

If the TS want's to try Neverwet on the reflector, I don't see a problem. It "might" help, or simply do nothing [like the silicon spray I tried].


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 06:37 AM

Haven't tried Neverwet yet...two different scenarios..When I has Dish Neywork and the dish was on top of the trailer it would collect snow and ice weekly.. (Fell off the ladder once trying to clear :o ) Moved to a new house 3 miles away and no snow problems :)
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Posted 16 September 2013 - 06:49 AM

What about regular WD-40 or silicone?



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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:14 AM

I've seen a photo of a dish with 6" of snow buildup, and the claim of no signal loss. All I can think was that was very dry snow, as I can blank out signal on a sunny day with a wet towel.

 

 

That doesn't prove the small amount of moisture a towel can hold causes signal loss. Only that a towel causes signal loss, and adding water to it pushes it over the edge to where it is problem (I'm assuming you tried it with a dry towel as a control?)

 

If the tiny amount of water a towel can hold caused signal loss, you'd think even simple drizzle would be enough to cause rain fade, because the signal would be traveling through much more water (even just between the clouds and the ground) than a wet towel could ever hold!


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Posted 16 September 2013 - 06:32 PM

That doesn't prove the small amount of moisture a towel can hold causes signal loss. Only that a towel causes signal loss, and adding water to it pushes it over the edge to where it is problem (I'm assuming you tried it with a dry towel as a control?)

 

If the tiny amount of water a towel can hold caused signal loss, you'd think even simple drizzle would be enough to cause rain fade, because the signal would be traveling through much more water (even just between the clouds and the ground) than a wet towel could ever hold!

You might want to use a meter and check the results.


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