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Standing in line for a new toy.... WHY?


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#1 OFFLINE   Mark Holtz

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:44 PM

In case you were paying attention to the news, the new iPhone was released today.... along with the obligatory story about people in line to be the first to get the new iToy.

 

Let me be one of the many people to ask... WHY?

 

This story is repeated ad nausea over the years as it relates to the new Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, Game, and iPhone over the years. The people are camped out overnight. Do these people not have lives? Or jobs? I would feel pretty silly asking my boss to take a few days off to get a new electronics item... especially one which, in a week or so, I could easily purchase without a long wait. Is it really that necessary to be the first on the block to have that iGadget? 

 

The last time I remember standing in line for something, it was before the local community offered online registration for classes (about 15-20 years ago). I needed to get this one class that had limited availability, so yes, I took the day off, and it was for something I needed (an education), not something I wanted. Any boss can understand that.

 

The last time I got something "brand new and at launch" was last year's Samsung S3 Android phone. Even then, it was ahead of schedule, and the sole reason was not for the phone having 4G capabiltiy (verses my existing 3G Android phone), but because I wanted to get an upgrade before Verizon changed the plans and I would lose my unlimited data plan. I have been stung once too many times from "first release defects" that get fixed in later versions of the same device. 


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:55 PM

The problem is the same problem that results in companies rushing to market rather than fully test their products...

 

People want to be first.

 

People want to be first more than they want to be best, or even good.

 

People stand in line for stuff they don't even want just so they can say they were first to have some new widget OR even better to get that widget and wave it in the face of someone who didn't get one at all!

 

It's nothing new in the history of the world... it is a little sad... but not new.

 

I haven't wanted anything enough to be in any of those kinds of lines... I'm perfectly happy to wait a few weeks on some new product I want if it means I can avoid the camping out and lines.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:03 PM

If you had watched an interview that was of several of the people that had waited for 2 weeks to get one you would have seen that people wanting to advertise their stuff had given many of them clothes, watches and even paid for their new Iphone for them to wear their clothes, etc. It was cheap for the companies to have most everyone that passed by see those people sleeping and hanging out there and seeing the items they provided for them.

 

For a lot of them it is just as already stated, they want to be first to have it in their social circle.

I don't have one at all. I use a prepaid $19.99 phone and buy 1,000 minutes of talk and text for $100 and it lasts me all year.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:05 PM

The problem is the same problem that results in companies rushing to market rather than fully test their products...
 
People want to be first.
 
People want to be first more than they want to be best, or even good.
 
People stand in line for stuff they don't even want just so they can say they were first to have some new widget OR even better to get that widget and wave it in the face of someone who didn't get one at all!
 
It's nothing new in the history of the world... it is a little sad... but not new.
 
I haven't wanted anything enough to be in any of those kinds of lines... I'm perfectly happy to wait a few weeks on some new product I want if it means I can avoid the camping out and lines.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:45 PM

I placed an order online while at the company blood drive, supposed to ship in 4 days. 



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:46 PM

I'd never wait in line for a phone or game console, but I have waited in line for concert tickets - dating myself, yes - and that was a fun, communal experience. Maybe people camping out for an electronic device feel the same way? Whatever the reason, I don't understand why so many people feel the need to deride them for it. Who is it bothering? Better than having a group of people flood a public park and turn it into a wasteland of tents and filth as they chant slogans and harass the neighborhood.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:49 PM

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:17 PM

I'd never wait in line for a phone or game console, but I have waited in line for concert tickets - dating myself, yes - and that was a fun, communal experience.

 

Note that I didn't say concerts, as they are often limited. Also, with Ticketmaster, there is a significant markup (which is why I don't attend concerts).

 

Who does it bother? Noone really. I just happen to think "Whats the point?"


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:44 PM

Lemmings.  If they had to jump off a cliff to get the new phones, I'll bet some of them would.

 

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:04 PM

In case you were paying attention to the news, the new iPhone was released today.... along with the obligatory story about people in line to be the first to get the new iToy.

 

Let me be one of the many people to ask... WHY?

 

This story is repeated ad nausea over the years as it relates to the new Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, Game, and iPhone over the years. The people are camped out overnight. Do these people not have lives? Or jobs? I would feel pretty silly asking my boss to take a few days off to get a new electronics item... especially one which, in a week or so, I could easily purchase without a long wait. Is it really that necessary to be the first on the block to have that iGadget? 

 

The last time I remember standing in line for something, it was before the local community offered online registration for classes (about 15-20 years ago). I needed to get this one class that had limited availability, so yes, I took the day off, and it was for something I needed (an education), not something I wanted. Any boss can understand that.

 

The last time I got something "brand new and at launch" was last year's Samsung S3 Android phone. Even then, it was ahead of schedule, and the sole reason was not for the phone having 4G capabiltiy (verses my existing 3G Android phone), but because I wanted to get an upgrade before Verizon changed the plans and I would lose my unlimited data plan. I have been stung once too many times from "first release defects" that get fixed in later versions of the same device. 

You didn't "need" the class or an education; you wanted them. Same with these iphone people; they want it.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:48 PM

It gives them something to do and lets them feel a part of something.




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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:56 PM


Let me be one of the many people to ask... WHY?

 

 

 

They're the want it now generation.

 

They also firmly believe if it is newer it MUST be better.

 

I agree with WC Fields that there's a sucker born every minute.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:11 PM

Hey, if it gets them out of their parents' basement for a few days it's a good thing -- time enough to exterminate! :rolleyes:


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:12 PM

Have we forgotten Cabbage Patch Kids and the various Nike shoe riots?  OK, near-riots.  What was it a couple of years ago that people were getting robbed and shot for as they walked out of the store to their cars?

 

Then there are the people who pay top dollar to have a $10 widget delivered via Next Day Air, Saturday Delivery.

 

 

 

Why?  Think of the Tin Man ....  If they only had a brain.

 

People are stupid.  Humanity is doomed.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 05:31 PM

They're the want it now generation.

 

They also firmly believe if it is newer it MUST be better.

 

I agree with WC Fields that there's a sucker born every minute.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 06:23 PM

It's one thing to be an early adopter and quite something else to camp out in line to score a first day purchase.

I was a somewhat early adopter when I upgraded from a broken HTC Thunderbolt to my Motorola Droid Razr HD -- far from first in line, but I think within the first month that Verizon had it available.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 06:34 PM

I also wouldn't bother telling my boss why I was taking the day off. If the day was available and I wanted to spend it playing GTA or whatever, it's really of no consequence. Or am I just in an unusual position?


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 06:52 PM

I don't ridicule the line-waiters...  but I do wish they would not be so eager, because maybe then companies would not rush to market so much.  When a company knows they will have a line around the block for whatever they release, they tend to release whatever they can to get people in that line.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:21 PM

I bought an 'Eggstractor'  (AS SEEN ON TV !!!!) at a garage sale for $1.

 

I was pretty sure it wouldn't work, and I was correct, but it was worth the dollar to turn a hard boiled egg inside out and then blast it all over the kitchen.

 

 

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:31 PM

Note that I didn't say concerts, as they are often limited. Also, with Ticketmaster, there is a significant markup (which is why I don't attend concerts).

Who does it bother? Noone really. I just happen to think "Whats the point?"

I have been there done that, for some of the iPhones. I can relate to Apple but not the gaming consoles. There are a few folks that see Apple as a "culture" and these folks has been with Apple from a very long time. These folks see Steve Jobs as their "hero" and feel very loyal to Apple. these folks are usually monikered as "fan boys". So in an effort to support this "culture", we must have the latest and greatest from Apple and do "crazy" things to get them


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 05:10 AM

The thing they came out with that is Free is very nice. Recently I bought a new Ipad 2 on sale at Walmart and got one for my 89 year old mother. We are going to use them for Facetime when she gets hers.

The pad came with a 4.? software. It immediately updated to 6.? version. Yesterday I got Ios 7. It is nice. It looks and feels more like the Windows 7 and the Safari looks and feels more like IE 10. Again it is Free.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:45 AM

You didn't "need" the class or an education; you wanted them. Same with these iphone people; they want it.

 

True. However, the same model iPhone would be available two weeks later. A college class, especially one of limited availability and/or has the times that best fits your schedule, has limited seats. Plus, that college class helps get you that degree, which, in turn, should give you better employment and should give you a better paycheck.
 

Then there are the people who pay top dollar to have a $10 widget delivered via Next Day Air, Saturday Delivery.

 

While I pay the premium for Amazon Prime, I usually opt for the two day shipping, not the next day shipping, and still some of my stuff arrives the next day. I purchase my cables from Monoprice, and the cheapest shipping option (at $6) just happens to be overnight for California residents (but it's not UPS or FedEx). Earlier this week, I ordered a new computer power supply because it was on sale with NewEgg, and I choose the cheapest option (4-7 day shipping) because I wasn't going to put it in until this weekend. It showed up the next day.

I will confess that I had ordered items that I was anxious to get, and checked the tracking sites several times for updates. Yes, I wanted to get the item, but not enough to pay a shipping premium on it. The premium shipping negates the savings from ordering online, and you might as well drive to the store by then.
 

These folks see Steve Jobs as their "hero" and feel very loyal to Apple. ... So in an effort to support this "culture", we must have the latest and greatest from Apple and do "crazy" things to get them.

 

I will admit, Steve Jobs has the presentation skills down right. I remember reading an article a few years. They would close off the auditorium a day or so prior and Steve would reherse like crazy, tweaking the presentation so that it went smooth as silk (usually). It paid off in sales.

Compared game consoles with phones, we have releases of phones practically every year (if not quicker). The original Playstation was released in 1994, PS2 in 2000, PS3 in 2006, and PS4 this year. The original Xbox was released in 2001, Xbox 360 in 2005, and Xbox One in 2013. Each generation of the gaming console is a major technological improvement, versesion the minor technological improvement in cell phones (comparatively speaking). If I had a iPhone that was a few years old and beat up, I would consider upgrading. But, not if I had last years model.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:55 AM

Hey, if it gets them out of their parents' basement for a few days it's a good thing -- time enough to exterminate! :rolleyes:

 

I fear I'll never get my son out of his "basement" apartment.  Poor parenting.  He does work 2 jobs, but as soon as he gets home he's back on the video games.

 

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:00 AM

I don't ridicule the line-waiters...  but I do wish they would not be so eager, because maybe then companies would not rush to market so much.  When a company knows they will have a line around the block for whatever they release, they tend to release whatever they can to get people in that line.

 

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:54 AM

I don't ridicule the line-waiters...  but I do wish they would not be so eager, because maybe then companies would not rush to market so much.  When a company knows they will have a line around the block for whatever they release, they tend to release whatever they can to get people in that line.

I wish they wouldn't do 'release dates' at all, especially things like Nike that tend to cause fights and shootings.  Ship the stuff to the stores quietly like all other stock.  Staggered schedules, so no one knows when which store will have it until it gets put on the shelves.  Malls and stores should not allow the lines.  Anyone there more than an hour before the store opens gets ticketed for loitering or trespassing.

 

While I pay the premium for Amazon Prime, I usually opt for the two day shipping, not the next day shipping, and still some of my stuff arrives the next day. I purchase my cables from Monoprice, and the cheapest shipping option (at $6) just happens to be overnight for California residents (but it's not UPS or FedEx). Earlier this week, I ordered a new computer power supply because it was on sale with NewEgg, and I choose the cheapest option (4-7 day shipping) because I wasn't going to put it in until this weekend. It showed up the next day.

I'm not in Prime yet, so my Amazon stuff might show up in 3 days or 3 weeks since I always click on Super Saver Shipping for eligible items.  NewEgg and Tiger usually show up in under 5 days.  I check tracking frequently but only so I know when to expect the truck and have the gate open, not because I'm in any rush.

 

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