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Considering switching to Direct; HD DVR


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#1 OFFLINE   khearrean

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:17 PM

I am considering switching to Direct after 17 years with Dish. I talked to a sales specialist today in one of the retail outlets who explained the intro offers, etc, which really does appear less expensive than what I'm paying now for a comparable package. (I currently have the Americas Top 250 with HD & Blockbuster at Home & would be looking at Direct's Ultimate Package). I am assuming (or at least hoping) if I go with the DVR, it will be the Genie HR 44 & then a mini model (or whatever they're calling it) for my 2nd room. My question is this; I assume the HR 44 doesn't have a built-in OTA tuner, but do they have an OTA adapter for it like Dish has? I would definitely need this as I now have a Dish receiver with a built-in OTA tuner & would not want to lose that capability.

Secondly, can anyone who has had both Direct & Dish comment on any PQ (Picture Quality) differences? After doing a some look-ups via Google, it seems more opinions give Direct the edge on PQ.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

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#2 OFFLINE   Supramom2000

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:23 PM

You might not get the HR44 model of Genie.  There is a thread here that tells the deployment locations of the HR44.

 

You can use an AM21 OTA tuner with an antenna for your OTA channels.  I have used mine on both my HR34 and HR44.

 

I can't speak to the PQ as I had SD when I had Dish.

 

The Genies with client are pretty sweet.  You'll enjoy it!


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:49 PM

One thing to keep in mind, the AM21 cannot scan for OTA channels. I don't know if Dish is that way, just an FYI.

 

Some say that HD on DirecTV is slightly better, SD on Dish is said to be better.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:50 PM

dpeters - that was one of the things that went away in new software releases, correct? 


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 05:01 PM

You're in a pretty good situation.  A new DirecTV customer can get a Genie and three clients for free plus NFL ST (not sure if Max is also included) and if you sign up for autopay/paperless billing, you can get the $25 per month Advance Receiver Fee reduced to $15 for 24 months.

 

But you might even be able to do better.  I'd ask for the AM21 for free. Shows your OTA guide in the DirecTV guide and you can record/share with the other units.

 

But I would seriously get another HD DVR or HD Receiver instead of all Genie clients.  A little bit more redundancy to your system.

 

If you talked with a sales associate in a store (best buy, Sam's, etc.), take that info with a grain of salt.  I haven't heard one who was anywhere near 50% correct in what they said. 



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 05:51 PM

You're in a pretty good situation.  A new DirecTV customer can get a Genie and three clients for free plus NFL ST (not sure if Max is also included) and if you sign up for autopay/paperless billing, you can get the $25 per month Advance Receiver Fee reduced to $15 for 24 months.

 

But you might even be able to do better.  I'd ask for the AM21 for free. Shows your OTA guide in the DirecTV guide and you can record/share with the other units.

 

But I would seriously get another HD DVR or HD Receiver instead of all Genie clients.  A little bit more redundancy to your system.

 

If you talked with a sales associate in a store (best buy, Sam's, etc.), take that info with a grain of salt.  I haven't heard one who was anywhere near 50% correct in what they said. 

Great info; but first, please tell me what is meant by the "Advance Receiver Fee" & when you say reduced to $15 for 24 months, what would it be normally?

Second, having my locals/OTA show up in the guide is important, which is how they are now with my Dish HD receiver, but "dpeters11" said you couldn't scan for locals with the AM21, which seems very strange. I assume then you would have to add locals manually?

Third, what exactly do you mean by getting another HD DVR instead of a Genie Client? Are you referring to my 2nd room? Why would having a separate Direct stand-alone DVR for that room be better?

 

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 06:23 PM

dpeters - that was one of the things that went away in new software releases, correct? 

 

Yes, on the Genies this was removed in 0x0725.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 06:30 PM

Great info; but first, please tell me what is meant by the "Advance Receiver Fee" & when you say reduced to $15 for 24 months, what would it be normally?

Second, having my locals/OTA show up in the guide is important, which is how they are now with my Dish HD receiver, but "dpeters11" said you couldn't scan for locals with the AM21, which seems very strange. I assume then you would have to add locals manually?

Third, what exactly do you mean by getting another HD DVR instead of a Genie Client? Are you referring to my 2nd room? Why would having a separate Direct stand-alone DVR for that room be better?

 

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The advanced receiver fee is $25 and includes the DVR fee, Whole Home and HD. It is per account, not per receiver. Any discount would be off this price.

 

You would not add OTA channels manually, it's based on a database. If it's not in the database, you won't be able to get the channel through the AM21. Someone may know what is available if you give what city.

 

A second DVR would cost the same per month as a client ($6). Benefits of a client are that you would be able to set something to record to the Genie from the second room. A DVR in the second room can only set a recording locally, but recorded programs on both boxes would be available regardless of what room you were in.

 

You cannot access the history, to do list or series manager remotely if you do not have a client.

 

A client does not have a tuner, it uses one from the Genie. So if you were watching something live on the client, only 4 tuners would be available to the Genie. If you would ever need to replace your Genie, the client is useless until the replacement is in.

 

Pros and cons to both.



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Posted 28 September 2013 - 06:59 PM

You likely won't be able to get a genie AND another HDDVR as part of the install without paying extra up front for it though.
For your purposes, the genie/client would likely be just fine.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 07:25 PM

If you know someone who has Directv already, get their account number, both you and them can get a $10 a month discount for 10 months..Hey a $100 bucks is nothimg to sneeze at..... Sent from my GT-P3113 using DBSTalk mobile app

Edited by PK6301, 28 September 2013 - 07:33 PM.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 07:59 PM

If you know someone who has Directv already, get their account number, both you and them can get a $10 a month discount for 10 months..Hey a $100 bucks is nothimg to sneeze at..... Sent from my GT-P3113 using DBSTalk mobile app

Note that this discount only applies if signing up through DirecTV and not through a third party retailer as they have their own incentives


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:30 AM

Benefits of a client are that you would be able to set something to record to the Genie from the second room.

As DB Stalker points out, the bigger benefit of the Genie Mini is that it won't cost you $199 to get into a lease as an HD DVR most likely will.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:39 AM

I just swapped from a Hopper, but not the first time Ive had Directv.

 

Hopper is a great device, HR44 I got seems to be as well. Not sure on all the speed complaints, unless thats the HR34, but the HR44 is very fast. New remote took a little getting used to, but Im coming around. I miss folders, and assigning recordings to folders for my wife and I, but thats no big deal. I personally feel the PQ is better on Directv, and it was obvious on ESPN last night. Players were sharp, not soft, lot less mosquito noise going on as well if you get close to the screen and look.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:51 AM

As DB Stalker points out, the bigger benefit of the Genie Mini is that it won't cost you $199 to get into a lease as an HD DVR most likely will.


There's pros and cons to both, but now is the best time to get the setup that will work best, whatever that is.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:53 AM

PQ: Really no contest. Bits is bits, up to a point, and DIRECTV® sends out more picture information than Dish. Some claim they cannot see the difference.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:57 AM

I just hope Directv sticks with the 5 or 6 channels per TP, and does not make the move to 8 and 9 like Dish did. At least not until more efficient compression tech comes along.


Edited by Jason Whiddon, 29 September 2013 - 09:57 AM.

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