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News-Press & Gazette (NPG) and DirecTV agreement expiring Oct 9


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#1 OFFLINE   kkl

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 11:12 AM

News-Press & Gazette (NPG) and DirecTV agreement is set to expire on Oct 9, only three years since the last impasse.  Typically, my local station, KRDO, is running spots blaming DTV and DTV has set aside a sub-channel, "13-1:  ALERTS.  Important Info. about your ABC station", although I've only seen the DirecTV logo displayed on it.  Curiously, directvpromise.com says there are no disputes for local zip codes, but if you cancel the pop-up you'll see this:

 

 

News-Press & Gazette Company Update

Last updated 10/4/2013

DIRECTV is working with News-Press & Gazette Company, to obtain its permission to continue providing its local channels* to our customers. Our current contract expires at 9:00 AM, Oct. 9, and NPG has already informed DIRECTV it will deny our customers its broadcast channels if an agreement is not reached by the deadline. We hope NPG will remain true to its stated vision of being “the best and most reliable provider” of local programming and keep its channels on while we seek their permission to renew our agreement.

*NPG owns local broadcast stations serving Bend Oregon, Santa Barbara Calif., Columbia Missouri, Palm Springs Calif., Yuma Ariz., El Paso Texas, Idaho Falls, Idaho, Colorado Springs, Colo. and St. Joseph Mo.

 

NPG owns a number of stations per their website:

Practicing electronic journalism at its finest, our television stations serve diverse communities in states including Arizona, California, Colorado, Oregon, Idaho, and Texas,. We are the No. 1 station in most of our communities. Our on-air success also includes radio stations, which are well-known for reaching the Hispanic market.

KESQ-TV (ABC), Palm Springs (Desert), CA
KESQ-TV 42.1  Newschannel 3  ABC
KESQ-TV 42.2  First Alert Weather Channel
KDFX-TV 33.2  FOX11
KCWQ-TV 2.3    CW5
KUNA-TV 15.1  Telemundo

KUNA-FM  96.7
KESQ-AM  1400

KEYT-TV 3.1 (ABC), Santa Barbara, Santa Maria, San Luis Obispo, Ventura
3.2 MyNet

KRDO-TV (ABC), Colorado Springs, CO
KRDO-TV 13.1- NewsChannel 13 (ABC)
KTLO-TV  13.2 – Telemundo
KRDO-AM – 1240
KRDO-FM – 105.5

KJCT-TV (ABC), Grand Junction, CO

KJCT-TV 8.1 ABC Grand Junction, Colorado
KJCT-TV 8.2 Telemundo Grand Junction, Colorado
KJCT-TV 8.3 Western Colorado’s CW 13 Grand Junction, Colorado
KJCT-TV 21.1 & 28.3 ABC Montrose, Colorado
KJCT-TV 21.2 & 28.3 Telemundo Montrose, Colorado
KJCT-TV 21.3 & 28.3 Western Colorado’s CW 13 Montrose, Colorado

KIFI-TV (ABC), Idaho Falls, ID
KIFI-TV -8.1 – ABC
KIFI-TV – 8.2 – Telemundo East Idaho
KIFI-TV – 8.3 – CW East Idaho
KIFI-TV – 8.4 – Local News 8 NOW
KIDK-TV – 3.1 – CBS
KXPI-TV – 3.2 – My Network

KMIZ – ABC, Columbia, MO
KQFX – FOX
KZOU – MyNetworkTV
Me-TV

KNPN 26.1 – FOX, St. Joseph, MO
KNPN 26.2 – News-Press NOW
KNPN 26.3 – CW
KNPN 26.4 – Telemundo

KVIA-TV (ABC), El Paso, TX
KVIA-TV 7.1  ABC7
KVIA-TV 7.2  El Paso – Las Cruces  CW
KVIA-TV 7.3  24/7 Stormtrack Weather Channel
KVIA-TV 7.4  El Paso – Las Cruces Azteca

KTVZ-TV (NBC), Bend, OR
KTVZ-TV 21.1 NBC Newschannel 21
KTVZ-TV  21.2  CW
KFXO-TV  39.1  FOX
KFXO-TV  39.2  Telemundo

KECY-TV (FOX), Yuma, AZ
KECY-TV 9.1  FOX 9
KECY-TV 9.2  ABC 5
KECY-TV 9.3  CW 6
KECY-TV 9.4  KESE / Telemundo
- See more at: http://www.npgco.com...h.zFenvULz.dpuf


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 11:56 AM

Last night during the Missouri Tiger football game they were doing a quick blurb about the current agreement ending at noon on October 9th. They also list all of the alternate methods to get their channels.

I did not realize that JW Broadcasting sold to NPG.
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Posted 06 October 2013 - 12:10 PM

Here we go again   :nono2:


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 12:42 PM

It's not often I suggest that the FCC should create more regulations but this situation goes from bad to worse. IMHO they should ban retransmission fees completely. The stations are just so desperate for revenue they don't care about their viewers.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 12:57 PM

It's not often I suggest that the FCC should create more regulations but this situation goes from bad to worse. IMHO they should ban retransmission fees completely. The stations are just so desperate for revenue they don't care about their viewers.

 

Or at least start with not allowing one company to own more than one major network in a market. Owning both NBC and FOX or ABC and CBS shouldn't be allowed.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 01:20 PM

It's not often I suggest that the FCC should create more regulations but this situation goes from bad to worse. IMHO they should ban retransmission fees completely. The stations are just so desperate for revenue they don't care about their viewers.

Yeah ....

 

The powerful lobbying capability from the NAB is the problem here though.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:05 AM

Apparently an agreement wasn't reached, because my local station became unavailable at exactly 1100 MDT.  DTV is displaying:

 

"The owner of this channel has unfortunately forced DIRECTV to temporarity remove it from your line-up despite our repeated requests to keep it on.  While we regret their decision, typically disruptions of this sort last a very short time.

 

Please visit DirectvPromise.com for the latest and most accurate information on this station's return."

 

Add me to the list of those who think retransmission consent is ridiculous.  I blame NPG.



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:55 PM

Directvpromise.com says they are requesting tripple the current fee.

All I can say is, WOW!!!!!
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:01 PM

Directv and Dish always say something like "its 5 times, its 3 times, its a 500% increase". Who cares? What I want to know is, is it 3 times $0.05, or 3 times $1.00. There are two sides and then the truth,


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 06:19 PM

It is my local for ABC. Here is what KRDO says about it: http://www.krdo.com/...27/-/index.html

 

KRDO had another dispute with DTV back when local HD was being rolled out. It took a while then, could be a while now. Total bull****!

KRDO has some of the worst audio on there local productions and utilizes 1 HD camera for there in house news broadcasts.....

Sorry, ranting here, we only watch the dance show so not a huge thing for us.....



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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:29 PM

Here is what Palm Springs' stations are saying.  Unfortunately, Gulf-California Broadcast (an NPG subsidiary) owns/blocked  ABC, CBS, FOX, CW and Telemundo.  The only major not owned by them in this area is NBC. 

 

http://www.kesq.com/...4g/-/index.html

 

First off, I know all about the FCC rules regarding DMA's.

 

Since stations are requiring carriers to pay for what they broadcast for free, it's to bad that there isn't a way to allow the customer to choose to pay either the local broadcast fees or national fees.  I wouldn't mind paying for national feeds instead of local and if it was possible, not against the rules/law and I worked for D's management, I'd drop all local carriers and just deal with 2 majors for each network, East and West.  It would open up a lot of bandwidth.

 

Again, I know the FCC won't allow it, but it's nice to play the "What if..." game.



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 12:17 AM

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:05 PM

In Anchorage we lost ABC for almost a month! Hope this gets resolved a lot quicker.



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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:04 PM

Directv and Dish always say something like "its 5 times, its 3 times, its a 500% increase". Who cares? What I want to know is, is it 3 times $0.05, or 3 times $1.00. There are two sides and then the truth,

 

Initially, you will see numbers like that.

 

A few years ago, local broadcasters received nothing.  One month ago, CBS set the benchmark: 2 dollars a local station, per month, by the year 2016.

 

Heck, if I were in DTV's investor relations department, I would cite the CAGR, and compare it to inflation.

 

Let's assume DTV is paying a local 15 cents a month, and the same local wants 2 dollars by year 4 of the new contract.

 

That's a CAGR (compound annual growth rate) of 91.1%.

 

Compare that figure to expected inflation of 1.9% over that time period, according the the Fed.

 

So, the local station is requesting an annual price increase of 91.1% vs annual inflation of 1.9%, over the next four years.

 

How do you like them apples!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 06:18 PM

I fully agree, these channels have lost reality. We negotiate contracts with contractors off a fair agreed price, then you can look at CPI every year. Our heavy equipment contractor has a set hourly rate (runs 10 D8's for us) but we do adjust qtrly with the fuel index. Its FAIR, thats what these people cant get. They want want want...


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:16 AM

I fully agree, these channels have lost reality. We negotiate contracts with contractors off a fair agreed price, then you can look at CPI every year. Our heavy equipment contractor has a set hourly rate (runs 10 D8's for us) but we do adjust qtrly with the fuel index. Its FAIR, thats what these people cant get. They want want want...

But of course therein lies the problem, establishing a "fair agreed price" to which these local station ownership groups will always swear up and down they are doing.  :engel07:

 

Which they're not of course..  !devil12:


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 06:21 AM

I am willing to bet that DirecTV settles with NPG before Dish settles with Media General. 

 

Dish has been running full page adds in the Raleigh News and Observer saying that NBC 17 cares more about money than it does its viewers and that Dish is not willing to pay three times as much for the same programming.  It sounds similar to the DirecTV / NPG situation.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:12 AM

Id fully agree with your prediction.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 09:12 AM

Here we go again   :nono2:

 

it's almost a monthly occurance now, isn't it..... we'll just have to wait what dispute we'll get in November. ;)


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 01:05 PM

I don't get why Direct or Dish pay for the locals unless they put equipment in a station's facility. The stations give it away on OTA and the providers get more eyes on their channel.  I know why D* and E* charge for it because of satellite uplinks and all,  maybe one day if they charge too much for locals, I'll like to have a package without locals and use my OTA and save a few bucks.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 02:10 PM

One week without the NPG locals and more than two weeks since the contract expired.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 03:39 PM

I don't get why Direct or Dish pay for the locals unless they put equipment in a station's facility. The stations give it away on OTA and the providers get more eyes on their channel.  I know why D* and E* charge for it because of satellite uplinks and all,  maybe one day if they charge too much for locals, I'll like to have a package without locals and use my OTA and save a few bucks.

 

 

They'd have to charge a lot more than they do now, or more even than they'd get if Directv met their current demands, for you to get any meaningful savings. Directv probably pays less than a dollar per subscriber for locals, except maybe in markets with a ton of them like NYC. Breaking them out separately might be a good strategy though, as it could serve as a way for Directv to let customers know when locals go up in price - the price Directv charges them for locals would go up to reflect that. In a way I guess it might be like RSNs, since locals for people who live in a market with just one channel per major network would cost less than than locals for people in a place like NYC where I assume there are a lot more locals and thus Directv would be paying more.

 

Incidentally, they do break out that charge for commercial customers, at least for me as a public viewing customer (unless I'm just on some grandfathered plan) Directv charges me $5/month for locals. I know that because that's what they told me I'd save when I called in and canceled them. I think they thought I'd figure when I'm paying thousands per month I'm not going to care about saving $5, and they might have been right, but the reality was that it was more confusing to employees to have to know the difference between satellite delivered and OTA delivered locals. If some TVs were on OTA and the other on the satellite version of that station they wouldn't be in sync because the Directv delivered channel is obviously some seconds behind what I pick up via OTA. If they would have provided an option "hide LILs" in the guide like you can hide SD duplicates I never would have bothered to cancel them.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 05:00 PM

They'd have to charge a lot more than they do now, or more even than they'd get if Directv met their current demands, for you to get any meaningful savings. Directv probably pays less than a dollar per subscriber for locals, except maybe in markets with a ton of them like NYC.

 

Univision alone gets 69 cents a month, today.  And CBS just inked an agreement to get 2 dollars a month by 2016, up from 1 dollar a month this year.

 

2 dollars a month is the benchmark.  By 2016, CBS, NBC ABC, Fox and UVN will each get 2 dollars a month.  Telemundo will probably get 1.50 a month.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 10:43 PM

I didn't realize they were that high. If so, Directv really should break out the charge for locals separately and allow people who don't want Directv to supply them to cancel them and save some money. That will hit the local stations where it counts, even if only 10% of Directv customers decided to drop the locals and get them via OTA it would still mean a 10% drop in their revenue.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 12:13 PM

I didn't realize they were that high. If so, Directv really should break out the charge for locals separately and allow people who don't want Directv to supply them to cancel them and save some money. That will hit the local stations where it counts, even if only 10% of Directv customers decided to drop the locals and get them via OTA it would still mean a 10% drop in their revenue.

I would like to see D* break out this charge too, I can get all my locals just fine via OTA and would cancel them via satellite if I could.






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