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Remanufactured R-15

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#1 OFFLINE   Telecom Techie

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 06:57 AM

Hello, All. I've been learning here for several years, and now I have something to share.


One of my old R15-300's failed. After years of service, it went completely dead. Received as a protection-plan replacement for a failed Tivo, it was a dusty "refurbished" veteran when I got it. The failure mode suggests a power supply problem, but the solution was to call the protection plan folks. They promised a replacement and did not want the dead R-15 in exchange.


The replacement arrived promptly. I was hoping for an R-22. I was expecting a dusty R-16... but what I got was a perfectly remanufactured R-15. When I say "REMANUFACTURED", I mean disassembled, washed, and reassembled with new fastners and new cables, new hard drive, painted steel cover, and new or repainted front. The degree of care given this old 2006-vintage box was shocking enough, but there were two significant upgrades that I share for your information and discussion:


1.) The old 160GB Seagate Barracuda is replaced with a new 250GB Seagate Pipeline. There is an IDE to SATA converter attached to the drive.


2.) The dish selection menu includes SWM options. I am not using this box on a SWM system, but the presence of the option in the firmware suggests that this old box, which originally did not support SWM, has been upgraded to add SWM functionality. Right?


I believe this observation provides insight into how DTV is managing their stock of equipment during the sunset of SD. It is curious to me that (if I am right about SWM) an obsolete receiver has been essentially converted into the newer model. The cost of this reman is probably less that a new unit, but MUCH higher than simply testing/reboxing a used unit and labeling it "refurbished".


Has production of R-16's ceased? Is this expensive R-15 reman driven by a shortage of good reclaimed R-16 and R-15 boxes?


BTW, a DTV tech told me that refurbed R-22's have been sent out as SD-DVR replacements in recent months.


If DTV is scraping the bottom of the barrel for SD-DVR's (maybe I should say "when", not "if"), does anyone expect HD-DVR's to become the default replacement for SD-DVR's?

Edited by Telecom Techie, 09 October 2013 - 07:04 AM.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 07:34 AM

the R15 needs more than firmware to be SWM compatible. Perhaps is using the general firmware from the other SD DVRs

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:42 PM

That's pretty interesting.  I love my two R15-300's and watch them a lot more than my R22.  One of them was BRAND NEW when I got it in July 2007 and the other one was "refurbished" (but I don't think they did a thing to it).  It is from 2005 including the HDD!!! I got it when it was 2 years old.   If one of them fails and it's the HDD, I'll probably replace it myself.  If it's a power supply or something more serious, I'll spend the $20 and get a replacement from DTV.

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 07:57 PM

Do you have a friend with a SWM setup? That would be the best way to tell for sure. I've never heard of an r15 working in a SWM setup though. And yes, R22s are back.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:54 PM

Do you have a friend with a SWM setup? That would be the best way to tell for sure.


No, but I would almost buy a SWM-8 just to explore this. And to free up some coax runs for other projects.

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