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Weather Channel to Relaunch Nov 11 with Weather All the Time


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#51 OFFLINE   medziatkowicz31

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:10 PM

does the locals on the 8s work with directv or only cable now? Will we ever get the full local forecast like cable with the bar at the bottom of the screen?



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#52 OFFLINE   levibluewa

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:14 PM

does the locals on the 8s work with directv or only cable now? Will we ever get the full local forecast like cable with the bar at the bottom of the screen?

The modified Lot8s via Dtv works most of the time. It would be nice if the active zip code selected via "active weather" would display info similar to cable, but I imagine that would be quite a rework for Directv.



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:17 PM

does the local on the 8s look different than before or the same as before? It goes by the zip code entered for home on directv active still correct?



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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:26 PM

DirecTV's local on the 8s is the same. It even still has the small window for the ad that is no longer there.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:50 PM

Yea I guess we'll see.  Keep in mind Dish Network doesn't even have local on the 8's. 

I can see us Directv customers with no change.

Guess I was right since I see nothing different.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:23 PM

It looks like they are still working on implementing the "Local on the 8's" I just had one with a slightly new interface. However it started before the commercial ended and then had the "national" Local on the 8's on at the same time.



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 06:39 PM

My VZ FiOS HD Weather Channel is exactly the same as DirecTV.

 

The SD channel had the local stuff, but the LOT8 was just more info on the bottom 10% of the screen.

 

Much ado about nothing.  No real changes I could see of any benefit.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 03:42 PM

My lot8 is coming up blank.  Any tips and tricks I should know about?  I'd really love to have mine working and my zip code is 13601.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 04:36 PM

Press Active, Wait for it to come up, select Weather, Select My Cities, Scroll to the bottom to Change Home Zip and put in your Zip code.

See if that works for you.


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Posted 15 November 2013 - 05:43 PM

My lot8 is coming up blank.  Any tips and tricks I should know about?  I'd really love to have mine working and my zip code is 13601.

 

I find that the Dtv version works about 95% of the time.... To be fair the cable version doesn't always engage either. I have no clue why the trigger doesn't always work.

 

I haven't noticed any change on the Dtv inserts. The FIOS Lot8s should match Comcasts’ and other cable operators NOT Dtv's. I read somewhere that the Intellistar2hd boxes for the head ends are around $5500. I inquired above if anyone knows how many cable operators - head ends have put out the $$$s to update and offer LOCAL info & bulletins in their HD feed of the WEATHERCHANNEL.  Anyone know?

 

As an aside...On March 21st Comcast encrypted WEATHERSCAN (SD)* which provided un-interrupted, commercial free, local weather, radar & severe weather bulletins / flood statements & advisories, etc., 24/7. I had been receiving it for about 5 years as part of "basic-limited cable" (NO BOX) for about  $18 a month. In addition to WEATHERSCAN, the limited-basic package included the HD feeds of the local networks in 720p and 1080i (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX,CW) and their SD sub-channels (THIS, RETRO, ANTENNA), local independents including MEtv, and cable channels Halllmark, Discovery, CSPAN, TVWA, the WEATHER CHANNEL and CBCHD and an SD feed of CTV from Vancouver.

As part of the brain-E-yack executive decision when they encrypted and took away WEATHERSCAN in its place they gave us the generic HD feed of the WEATHER CHANNEL...ZERO local weather, radar, bulletins or special weather statements, because they haven't coughed up the $5500+ for the Intellistar2HD. BRILLIANT MOVE! :) …and the best part…WEATHERSCAN is part of the “digital preferred” package…$87.49 a month + $10 (HD BOX +- per tv).

 

DISH was suppose to roll out WEATHERSCAN nationwide…it didn’t happen. DISH was suppose to have Lot8s in October 2006…it didn’t happen. Dtv has a modified Lot8s which I actually prefer, because you have the option of changing the Lot8s by changing the zip code…something Roku makes available via WeatherUnderground and a couple of other sites, just not as convenient as Directv.

 

*Wonder if that happened nationwide on Comcast.



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Posted 17 November 2013 - 03:28 AM

Good they used to always be WEATHER ALL THE TIME!!!!!! (It was stupid when they started adding all that crap!!)

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 07:44 PM

True. The same for The Nashville Network, and Country Music TV. Not much music on these channels. At least when there s we ere wether The Weather Channel had continuous weather.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 08:21 AM

Still no LOT8 for me.  :-(  I used to not too long ago but lately, my DVR's not showing locals.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 08:50 AM

I hope any one who missed the posts will try the TV apps for Weather, the ones now in HD. Pretty sweet. 


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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:29 AM

I hope any one who missed the posts will try the TV apps for Weather, the ones now in HD. Pretty sweet.

But not everybody have their receiver Internet connected, so either the interactive app using the red button on The Weather Channel or try the active button and see a quick glance of their local 5-day forecast, assuming that they entered their zip code on the weather menu under "add a city or zip code". But if they do then right arrow on the remote.


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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:24 AM

Very good point; I overlooked that entirely. 


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Posted 18 November 2013 - 07:38 PM

The FiOS is updated, but only on the SD feed. Makes it kind do useless. Weatherscan is also unchanged.


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Posted 01 December 2013 - 11:54 PM

The Weather Channel had been advertising about getting a new set to broadcast their weather I formation on. Why did The Weather Channel bother. There is much less live weather reporting since the launch in November.

The Weather Channel in far from being as good as it nice was.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 06:52 PM

But not everybody have their receiver Internet connected, so either the interactive app using the red button on The Weather Channel or try the active button and see a quick glance of their local 5-day forecast, assuming that they entered their zip code on the weather menu under "add a city or zip code". But if they do then right arrow on the remote.


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So that red button works on non internet connected receivers?  I guess that data comes from the satellite?  If so, I don't see why they couldn't put it in HD.  The icons and all proper framework would be built into the DirecTV receiver software image.  That same xml data from the transponder would just tell the software how to format those high resolution new weather channel graphics.  Either something proprietary like that, or build the red button weather as an HTML5 app using an XML data source which is cycled through the transponder.  Then the receiver can display the exact same lot8's that cable does, its just the receiver does all the drawing.  Maybe the animations wouldn't be as flashy in current generation IRD's but future generations may have the horsepower for active OpenGL like smooth animated graphics.  That sure would save tons of cost (and bandwidth) in deploying Spot Beams.  Weatherscan could be accomplished the same way (though most likely future generation receivers that can have smooth scrolling animated graphics like at the bottom of weatherscan. 


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 12:12 PM

Is everyone liking the new format? I don't like all the graphics on the screen, it makes the main picture smaller. With all the technology they have nowadys is it necessary to have all this information on the screen?

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 01:23 PM

With all the technology they have nowadys is it necessary to have all this information on the screen?


Yes. Without the information on the screen people might as well go to the technology and not watch the channel. The channel is worth less when it is not giving out weather information. Putting the information on screen restores the primary reason why people tune to that channel - to get the weather.

There are people who would tune in for shows about the weather - and not care about current forecast and conditions - but the main thing is the main thing. Forecasting and conditions are the major reason for the channel's existence. They need to show current weather information.
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Posted 07 December 2013 - 04:02 PM

The "new retooled" doesn't make it for me. I like the old when they just did weather...and it was even better when they didn't have any commercials. If they want to run all those "storm story" "prospectors" fillers they should consider a sub channel for those not looking for weather info. Weather Nation isn't going to fill that gap...it's a 1st class joke. Perhaps WeatherUnderground will one day give The Weather Channel some real competition.



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 04:29 PM

Perhaps WeatherUnderground will one day give The Weather Channel some real competition.

The Weather Channel purchased Weather Underground last year:
http://www.wundergro...annel-companies

As for WeatherNation, it's availability was limited to subchannels in select markets and an online stream. Now that DirecTV is going to carry it they'll have a national presence with 20 million or so additional subscribers, depending on what package it ends up in, which means more revenue so they can improve their quality and hire better talent.

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:40 PM

Is everyone liking the new format? I don't like all the graphics on the screen, it makes the main picture smaller. With all the technology they have nowadys is it necessary to have all this information on the screen?


No I hate the new format. It was bad enough before when there was not much live weather forcastung now there is much less.

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:44 PM

Yes. Without the information on the screen people might as well go to the technology and not watch the channel. The channel is worth less when it is not giving out weather information. Putting the information on screen restores the primary reason why people tune to that channel - to get the weather.

There are people who would tune in for shows about the weather - and not care about current forecast and conditions - but the main thing is the main thing. Forecasting and conditions are the major reason for the channel's existence. They need to show current weather information.

What gets me is the weather related shows on The Weather Channel are like repeats. DISH should carry WEATHERNATION. That is a true weather information channel.

Edited by SeaBeagle, 08 December 2013 - 07:58 PM.





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