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NY dad deemed unfit for not taking son to McDonald's


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#1 OFFLINE   fluffybear

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 11:38 AM

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Attorney David Schorr slapped a court-appointed shrink with a defamation lawsuit for telling the judge deciding a custody battle with his estranged wife that he was an unfit parent — for refusing to take his son to the fast food joint for dinner.

Schorr says in his Manhattan Supreme Court suit that E. 97th Street psychiatrist Marilyn Schiller filed a report saying he was “wholly incapable of taking care of his son” and should be denied his weekend visitation over the greasy burger ban.
 
Schorr, a corporate attorney turned consultant with degrees from NYU and Oxford University, had planned to take his 4-year-old son to their usual restaurant, the Corner Café on Third Avenue, for his weekly Tuesday night visitation last week.

But the boy threw a temper tantrum and demanded McDonald’s. So he gave his son an ultimatum: dinner anywhere other than McDonald’s — or no dinner.

“The child, stubborn as a mule, chose the ‘no dinner’ option,” the disgruntled dad says in the suit.

 


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 11:49 AM

IMO, he's a good parent for that. My parents always told me, "You can eat what we're having or go hungry to bed." I turned out fine.

 

Although with this story here, like any custody battle, parents try anything to screw over the other.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 11:50 AM

And yet the federal government is banning trans fats, and New York City is dictating what you can and can't eat or drink.  So this father does the same, on his own, without government laws telling him to do so, and he is an unfit father?

 

I wonder if people could sue New York City using this lawsuit as a basis to say New York is an unfit parent?


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:12 PM

I would say what is this country coming to but I been saying for forty years.
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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:26 PM

And yet the federal government is banning trans fats, and New York City is dictating what you can and can't eat or drink.  So this father does the same, on his own, without government laws telling him to do so, and he is an unfit father?

 

I wonder if people could sue New York City using this lawsuit as a basis to say New York is an unfit parent?

I never understood why we'll ban things bad for us like trans fat or large sugar drinks, which many people disagree with doing, but still criminalize marijuana - something that's beneficial to many and not as harmful. Drugs are bad, so keep them band! Trans fats are bad, so don't ban them!  :confused: :confused: :confused:


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:31 PM

IMO, he's a good parent for that. My parents always told me, "You can eat what we're having or go hungry to bed." I turned out fine.

 

Although with this story here, like any custody battle, parents try anything to screw over the other.

 

except this was a court-appointed psychiatrist and should not have had any favoritism toward one side or the other.  


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:31 PM

IMO, he's a good parent for that. My parents always told me, "You can eat what we're having or go hungry to bed." I turned out fine.

 

Although with this story here, like any custody battle, parents try anything to screw over the other.

The father's mom was right...

 

“Even my mother, the strictest mother in the world, said, ‘Why didn’t you just take him to McDonalds? What were you thinking? You know that this is a divorce situation.’”


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:38 PM

except this was a court-appointed psychiatrist and should not have had any favoritism toward one side or the other.  

But did the shrink know the whole story or just what the mother likely told them? I bet the mother sais something like, "He refused to feed our son one night."  Custody battles are viscous.

 

The dad nothing wrong, as far as I can tell thus far, but we don't know what all the shrink and courts know.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:54 PM

I never understood why we'll ban things bad for us like trans fat or large sugar drinks, which many people disagree with doing, but still criminalize marijuana - something that's beneficial to many and not as harmful. Drugs are ban, so keep them band! Trans fats are bad, so don't ban them!


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:10 PM

Just this morning I sigh a petition to legalize Medical marihuana here in Florida. The lady smile when I told her I would have sign one for non-medical marihuana also.

 

She was probably stoned.  

 

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:14 PM

Just this morning I sigh a petition to legalize Medical marihuana here in Florida. The lady smile when I told her I would have sign one for non-medical marihuana also.

Legalize everything ... It's our bodies, we can do whatever we want to them, IMO.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:18 PM

From Fox News:

 

I'm surprised Bloomberg didn't try to made illegal to feed young children fast foods in NYC!


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:23 PM

Legalize everything ... It's our bodies, we can do whatever we want to them, IMO.

+ 1

 

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:24 PM

Just this morning I sigh a petition to legalize Medical marihuana here in Florida. The lady smile when I told her I would have sign one for non-medical marihuana also.

 

As long as alcohol and other mood altering substances can be freely sold, I'm not against making most of the current illegal drugs, legal under proper regulations. 


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:24 PM

Legalize everything ... It's our bodies, we can do whatever we want to them, IMO.

+1000      Ihave always said that if something I do harms no one else it is nobodies business what I am doing.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:41 PM

It was back in the 80s that there was speculation people should be prosecuted for child abuse for referring cases TO the Illinois DCFS.

 

Seems like these governmental misfires are everywhere . . .



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:32 PM

This does seem like an overblown situation... but playing devil's advocate...  How many days can you give this ultimatum to your kid before it does become abuse?

 

On day one... Anywhere but McDonalds or no food...  ok, teach the kid a lesson.

 

What about two days?

 

Three days?

 

How many meals can you "punish" your kid by not allowing them to eat before it does become abuse?

 

That is actually a valid concern in this scenario.  We all know about the "go to bed without supper" punishment...  but if that becomes a multiple night thing, it becomes a malnourishment issue.  Right?  So where would you draw that line?

 

Did the father, in this scenario, not provide any food?  In other words... the kid throws a tantrum and says "nyah!" but the father got the kid food from somewhere anyway and the kid just didn't eat it?  OR was there no food at all for the kid to eat even if he changed his mind after the tantrum?


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:30 PM

It sounds like he has the son once a week, on Tuesdays and that there is a particular restaurant they generally go to. I can see a 4 year old not wanting to go to the same white tablecloth style restaurant every week.

 

I enjoyed it when I was young, and the menu seemed bigger than I was, but it wasn't a common thing, so it was more fun.



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:12 PM

Somehow I wonder if the "strict mother" would have complained to the court if the father had taken the child to McDonalds instead of "insuring that my child received a proper dinner". :rolleyes:

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:46 PM

Somehow I wonder if the "strict mother" would have complained to the court if the father had taken the child to McDonalds instead of "insuring that my child received a proper dinner". :rolleyes:

Divorce is a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. :(

Bingo on both counts. My son at four didn't know about Mickey D's, but at 8 and 10 he sure did. Wendy's too. So I took him when he wanted to go. Felt that denial would have made the prize seem all the bigger.  By 12 or 13 he wouldn't be caught dead in a fast food joint. Now he is a healthy eater and a very healthy young man. 


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