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DirecTV sees 4K TV having 'material impact' by 2016


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#81 OFFLINE   HoTat2

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:40 PM

There are several blu ray players that support 4K content playback.

That's what they use in Best Buy stores to demo 4k HDTV's.

OK;

 

How about "not much native 4K content to play on it?" :)


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:56 PM

There are several blu ray players that support 4K content playback.

That's what they use in Best Buy stores to demo 4k HDTV's.

as a former BB employee, I can tell you that they are not supposed to use any type of disc material as the FCC really frowns upon it. They use outer kinds of distribution equipment.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 10:59 PM

Hmmm. Was just in a Magnolia section of a BB and they were using a Sony large disk player for their 4K....(not a normal HDD, and not a blu-ray player)


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 05:59 AM

Hmmm. Was just in a Magnolia section of a BB and they were using a Sony large disk player for their 4K....(not a normal HDD, and not a blu-ray player)

 

Was it this one ?

http://store.sony.co...nternet-Players



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:06 AM

 

as a former BB employee, I can tell you that they are not supposed to use any type of disc material as the FCC really frowns upon it. They use outer kinds of distribution equipment.

There would be no reason for that - there are no restrictions in using publicly-available blu ray players that support 4K content (for demos).

 

Hmmm. Was just in a Magnolia section of a BB and they were using a Sony large disk player for their 4K....(not a normal HDD, and not a blu-ray player)

I have no doubt of that.....

 

But in this case...I got them to show me the unit they were using, and it was a Sony BDPS790 3D Blu-ray Player that you could buy at Amazon, BB, or numerous other places. It supports both 3D and 4K upscaling.


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 06:16 AM

I'm supposed to pick up my set today at HHgregg. I will ask them what they are feeding the demo off of.  I had just assumed it was the 4k media player. Snce I had asked them about the 4k upconverting BD palyer and they  didn't know it existed.. I know for a 3d demo the kid used a thumb drive.


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 07:01 AM

I'm supposed to pick up my set today at HHgregg. I will ask them what they are feeding the demo off of.  I had just assumed it was the 4k media player. Snce I had asked them about the 4k upconverting BD palyer and they had didn't know it existed.. I know for a 3d demo the kid used a thumb drive.

Yeah....there are actually several ways to execute the 4K demo on several devices...

 

Honestly...HHGregg is generally not exactly known for being on the cutting edge of technology. They do have some good deals on things from time to time though....enjoy!


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:37 AM

Yes, it was that very one. 

From the website, this kills it for me:

 

 

The Sony 4K Ultra HD Media Player (FMP-X1) is only compatible with Sony 4K Ultra HD TVs. It is not compatible with 4K Ultra HD TVs from any other brand. A solution to ensure compatibility of Video Unlimited 4K with the VPL-VW1000ES 4K Projector will be available in the coming months.

 


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:40 AM

But in this case...I got them to show me the unit they were using, and it was a Sony BDPS790 3D Blu-ray Player that you could buy at Amazon, BB, or numerous other places. It supports both 3D and 4K upscaling.

 

Nice, and yes, pretty sure it's the same as I just posted, though didn't see the model number readily at the site. When I found it's matched to Sony only, I said goom-byeeee! 

I do wonder if it will downscale for mere HD TVs....? And will Sammy match the deal.


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:01 AM

This week they began thowing the 4k media player for free, with purchase of the xbr65-900a. The Blu-ray player will only upscale to a 4k TV and works with any brand.It  Remember it's just upconverting, it's not playing 4k Blu-rays,as none exist.


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:06 AM

Understood. Curious, though, to know whether the Sony media thingie can play via a regular (Sony)  HD TV. 


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:08 AM

No it can't.



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:12 AM

No it can't.

There is at least one model that can and one that can in the Sony line...the one that can also supports 3D HD.


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:20 AM

There is at least one model that can and one that can in the Sony line...the one that can also supports 3D HD.

That would suprise me to no end. As even the earlier Sony 4k models had to have a Sony Tech visit the owners home to upgrade the HDMI board. And it's my understanding that it only plays on HDMI  #4 on the Sony sets.



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Posted 20 November 2013 - 10:45 AM

This week they began thowing the 4k media player for free, with purchase of the xbr65-900a. The Blu-ray player will only upscale to a 4k TV and works with any brand.It  Remember it's just upconverting, it's not playing 4k Blu-rays,as none exist.

So again, trying to clarify;

 

There is no actual *native* 4K content available yet on the market?

 

The best that can be done at present is only an up-scaled 1080p/24 or 1080p/24-3D BD from a 4K up-converting capable BD player?  


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 10:49 AM

No. Sony, and possibly others, have a 2 TB disk drive that comes pre-loaded with 10 4k movies. It will be able to d/l others in time. (A long time for my connection!)


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 11:16 AM

 

That would suprise me to no end. As even the earlier Sony 4k models had to have a Sony Tech visit the owners home to upgrade the HDMI board. And it's my understanding that it only plays on HDMI  #4 on the Sony sets.

So again, trying to clarify;

 

There is no actual *native* 4K content available yet on the market?

 

The best that can be done at present is only an up-scaled 1080p/24 or 1080p/24-3D BD from a 4K up-converting capable BD player?  

Native 4K blue ray players are narrowed down to only 2-3 units in production...early production.

 

There are a couple of 4K Ultra HDTV video cameras out there also in early production. 

 

For the time being...demos are mostly done with upconverted 4K content....which is quite good to show off the higher resolution of 4K. But the stores will get 4K blu ray player units at different times over the next 90 days or so - some are restricted to certain corresponding manufacturer HDTVs (Sony does this) while others will not come with that limitation. These units are very new.


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 11:21 AM

So again, trying to clarify;

 

There is no actual *native* 4K content available yet on the market?

 

The best that can be done at present is only an up-scaled 1080p/24 or 1080p/24-3D BD from a 4K up-converting capable BD player?  

Yes there is 4k content available. The media player comes with 10 4k movies already in it. There is also a buy or rent service done through the media player. I think I read there  are 60 titles or so available now, and shooting for 100 by the end of the year. There is also some content on Youtube, and Netflix. I understand the Sony won't be able to take advantage of those til the HDMI 2.0 upgrade comes by the end of the year. Right now the only TV with HDMI 2.0 is the Panasonic.


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 11:35 AM

Here are a couple of short articles (quick reading) in terms of 4K Ultra HDTV, 4K blue ray players, and other related information.

 

http://www.techradar...t-4k-tv-1048954

 

http://reviews.cnet....-to-4k-blu-ray/

 

http://www.studiodai...he-art-in-2013/

 

http://www.consumerr...ollow/index.htm


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 11:36 AM

No. Sony, and possibly others, have a 2 TB disk drive that comes pre-loaded with 10 4k movies. It will be able to d/l others in time. (A long time for my connection!)

Here's what Samsung is bringing to the plate.

 

http://www.foxnews.c...-4k-hd-content/






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