I got an HDMI AVR last February to replace my analog AVR and my HD equipment is no longer plugged directly into my TV and the AVR only needs one input on the TV. Over the past couple of weeks I have installed several various AVR's and see CEC more of a pain than a pleasure. If you have a remote along the lines of the H1, CEC is a moot point and life is so much easier.
My experience with my Sony TV and Denon AVR (with HDMI) was great. Pushing the power button on the Hopper remote does the following:
1. Turn on the Hopper
2. Turn on the TV
3. Turn on the Denon AVR
4. Switch the Denon AVR to the source for the Hopper.
To me that is fantastic and completely negates the need to pay >$100 for a remote (which I personally find insane). When I'm done watching TV, pushing the one power button shuts everything off.
Their are use scenarios where this could be problematic though, like the one raised in another thread. Where if you are watching on one tv and want to pause, turn off that TV (without turning off the hopper) and continue watching on a Joey in another room. But in reality, I don't see how that limitation doesn't also effect a pricey remote as well. Either you have a macro to turn them all off, or individually and you don't save any button presses.
A good solution would be for Dish to update the firmware to not abandon a paused tuner on power off, unless necessary for a timer.
Edited by PhantomOG, 13 December 2013 - 01:59 PM.