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#41 OFFLINE   Scott Kocourek

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 05:30 PM

There's 3 makes of HR44's but only 1 make of HR34 correct? With a 3:1 ratio, would you say the chances of getting an HR44 over an HR34 are greater? I know two people in the area with Genie and they are both HR34's but were installed when they started advertising "genie" on TV.


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The first part is correct but I have no idea how many of each were made. Pace made the HR34 and now makes one of the 44s.


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Posted 03 December 2013 - 05:34 PM

No SS drives. I don't remember if they all use the same brand hdd or not, I think the hard drives are visible in the First Looks for each. There are pics if the insides on all of them (I think)

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I see, so they are all mechanical hard drives. I read a review of the PS4 which also uses a 500GB hard drive, and the author stated there was a slight hum coming from the hard drive.

 

I looked at the pictures but couldn't discern what manufacturers were used in each. I would imagine Samsung is using their own, don't know about the others, Humax and Pace. Hopefully they don't have any hum or whine issues.



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 06:02 PM

That makes me wonder why three different manufacturers and what difference(s) that might possibly mean. For example, one could have a quieter hard drive, another could have a quieter fan, whatever. I guess DTV doesn't draw up the blueprint for how they want it designed, or did they change the design and that's why there are three versions? Kind of strange to me there are three versions of the same unit, and that arouses my suspicious nature :)

Consider that there's a business reason for diversifying your suppliers. 


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Posted 03 December 2013 - 06:11 PM

Consider that there's a business reason for diversifying your suppliers. 

Consider that it could also affect quality.



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 09:15 PM

No difference in hard drive audibility among the three? Are they using solid state hard drives?

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 10:04 PM

Wishful thinking... 

Yep, exactly :)



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 10:45 PM

I'm sure HDD replacements are being considered for a not too distant future HR as the HDD is the weakest equipment piece in the current HRs.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 07:49 AM

Consider that there's a business reason for diversifying your suppliers. 

 

 

Consider that it could also affect quality.

 

I think we have seen that in several of the series.  My personal favorite manufacturer is Pace.  I have had less issues with their DVR's than any others.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:19 AM

I'm sure HDD replacements are being considered for a not too distant future HR as the HDD is the weakest equipment piece in the current HRs.

 

SSDs are not being considered for use anytime soon, sorry.

 

First of all, they don't come very big as standard parts. You typically won't find them over 512GB or so.

Second of all, they are more than 5x as expensive as plain old hard drives.

 

Maybe this changes over the 5+ year time span, but not sooner.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:09 PM

Anyone happen to know when the next Cutting Edge Release is coming for the HR34?  Sorry.  new to this forum and trying to catch up.  Thanks y'all!

 

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:21 PM

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Anyone happen to know when the next Cutting Edge Release is coming for the HR34?  Sorry.  new to this forum and trying to catch up.  Thanks y'all!

 

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 04:21 PM

No difference in hard drive audibility among the three? Are they using solid state hard drives?


I think they are all av wd drives. I believe that dtv creates the specs and the manufacturers all do the same specs. And that they use multiple manufactures so they can have larger supply and spread the risk amongst three instead of one manufacture. No need to put all your eggs in one basket. And what happens if a natural disaster hits and wipes out one of the plants. Need to have three options so they don't have to worry about that kind if thing.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 05:05 PM

I think they are all av wd drives. I believe that dtv creates the specs and the manufacturers all do the same specs. And that they use multiple manufactures so they can have larger supply and spread the risk amongst three instead of one manufacture. No need to put all your eggs in one basket. And what happens if a natural disaster hits and wipes out one of the plants. Need to have three options so they don't have to worry about that kind if thing.

So you think Samsung is using Western Digital HDD?



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:33 PM

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 06:46 AM

FWIW my Samsung manufactured HR21 has a WD hard drive.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:41 PM

So you think Samsung is using Western Digital HDD?


Yes. I've seen just wd lately but the only other brand drive I've ever heard of being in an hr is a segate.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:53 PM

Yes. I've seen just wd lately but the only other brand drive I've ever heard of being in an hr is a segate.

That doesn't bode well for confidence in Samsung :)



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 09:20 PM

That doesn't bode well for confidence in Samsung :)


How did you get to that conclusion. DIRECTV has specs they want and they probably don't want to have to write driver codes for all kinds of different brand drives. So they require a Av designed drive and only a specific model so they don't need to worry about anything else.

That doesn't say squat about samsung reliability. I have a samsung tv and so do several others I know and they are great.

Your conclusion doesn't make any sense to me. Where did you come up with it?

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 09:31 PM

Plus, a company like Samsung is incredibly complex. They are a major supplier of parts for the iPhone (though Apple has been reducing that reliance), yet also compete, and have fought in the courtroom.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 09:48 PM

How did you get to that conclusion. DIRECTV has specs they want and they probably don't want to have to write driver codes for all kinds of different brand drives. So they require a Av designed drive and only a specific model so they don't need to worry about anything else.

That doesn't say squat about samsung reliability. I have a samsung tv and so do several others I know and they are great.

Your conclusion doesn't make any sense to me. Where did you come up with it?

Well, because Samsung makes hard drives and it looks suspicious seeing another hard drive manufacturer's hdd in there. Write codes? You have me on that one. I can use any brand hdd in my PC and it also writes :)






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