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Watching recordings with Genie and minis


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#1 OFFLINE   Cavicchi

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 11:39 AM

Since the Genie (HR44) has one hdd and the minis (C41) do not have a hdd, can say I watch a recorded program on main Genie and my daughter watch a different recorded program on her mini (41) at the same time? So that would be two different recordings being watched at the same time with one on HR44 and other on Mini C41.



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 12:24 PM

That's not a problem. Even remote watching from a DVR doesn't involve the drive.


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 12:55 PM

That's not a problem. Even remote watching from a DVR doesn't involve the drive.


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But aren't the recorded programs on the hard drive? I am talking about 2 different recordings, which I assume are on the hard drive (HR44), one being watched on HR44 and a different recording watched on the mini (C41) at the same time, and no problem?



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 01:20 PM

They are on the hard drive of the machine that recorded them, but I'm saying even if you play it back from a different DVR, it's not copied to that drive.

You can actually play back different things on thee different clients at once while watching something local.


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 01:55 PM

They are on the hard drive of the machine that recorded them, but I'm saying even if you play it back from a different DVR, it's not copied to that drive.

You can actually play back different things on thee different clients at once while watching something local.


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Well, there really is one DVR, the HR44. The minis, C41, do not have a hard drive. So all recordings, I believe, are on the HR44, which is the only one with a hard drive. So when I watch one recording on the HR44 and my daughter is watching a different recording on her mini client, C41, at the same time, both recordings are accessed from the HR44, correct? Now if that is the case, the HR44 hard drive is being accessed for two different recordings at the same time, and that amazes me.



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:42 PM

You are correct in your example and it is designed to stream 3 clients while maintaining current operations for itself. Disk techology, buffering, etc all make this transparent. Your home PC is designed for so many purposes and has so many other services and components in play whereas the DVR is a essentially a single purpose device.

 

Most disks today have multiple disk layers and read/write heads on a single spindle and fles are commonly written in a method called striping which deploys pieces of the file across all the heads and layers. It is no longer a single platter and head that has to traverse the single layer like a phonograph needle. Contigous file space is almost always a detriment in today's IO world but there is some optimization in keeping the blocks themselves (think pages) filled with respect to the operational requirements of the device/devices using them.

 

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Well, there really is one DVR, the HR44. The minis, C41, do not have a hard drive. So all recordings, I believe, are on the HR44, which is the only one with a hard drive. So when I watch one recording on the HR44 and my daughter is watching a different recording on her mini client, C41, at the same time, both recordings are accessed from the HR44, correct? Now if that is the case, the HR44 hard drive is being accessed for two different recordings at the same time, and that amazes me.


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 04:07 PM

Well, there really is one DVR, the HR44. The minis, C41, do not have a hard drive. So all recordings, I believe, are on the HR44, which is the only one with a hard drive. So when I watch one recording on the HR44 and my daughter is watching a different recording on her mini client, C41, at the same time, both recordings are accessed from the HR44, correct? Now if that is the case, the HR44 hard drive is being accessed for two different recordings at the same time, and that amazes me.


It really isn't much different from the fact that the genie can be used to record 5 things at the same time, while playing back something recorded. Of course in that situation,mthe client can't be used to watch live tv on another channel, but that's a tuner limitation.


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 04:27 PM

You are correct in your example and it is designed to stream 3 clients while maintaining current operations for itself. Disk techology, buffering, etc all make this transparent. Your home PC is designed for so many purposes and has so many other services and components in play whereas the DVR is a essentially a single purpose device.

 

Most disks today have multiple disk layers and read/write heads on a single spindle and fles are commonly written in a method called striping which deploys pieces of the file across all the heads and layers. It is no longer a single platter and head that has to traverse the single layer like a phonograph needle. Contigous file space is almost always a detriment in today's IO world but there is some optimization in keeping the blocks themselves (think pages) filled with respect to the operational requirements of the device/devices using them.

 

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I'm not sure I understand everything you said, but I think you answered my question :)

 

In other words, yes, my daughter and I can watch two different recordings at the same time. :righton:



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 04:55 PM

You bet even while it records even more!

 

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I'm not sure I understand everything you said, but I think you answered my question :)

 

In other words, yes, my daughter and I can watch two different recordings at the same time. :righton:


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 05:02 PM

I'm not sure I understand everything you said, but I think you answered my question :)

 

In other words, yes, my daughter and I can watch two different recordings at the same time. :righton:

Not only two different, but the same recording too.

You or she can pause/start at different times/places and not affect the others playback.

 

Genies are a true "whole home" DVR.


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Posted 07 December 2013 - 05:16 PM

Not only two different, but the same recording too.

You or she can pause/start at different times/places and not affect the others playback.

 

Genies are a true "whole home" DVR.

You guys got me so excited about DTV that I rescheduled the install from 12/12 to 12/10. If it wasn't for the expected weather, I would have scheduled for tomorrow or Monday.

 

What can I say except this is amazing!



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 07:05 PM

You can record five things off sat, download another via Internet on demand, and watch four other previously recorded things (one at the tv connected to the hr44 the other three at other remote tvs with clients) all at the same time. And its all happening not he exact same hard drive. Got to love technology. ;)



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Posted 07 December 2013 - 07:28 PM

Er, Inky, remember they're just two people at this point in time! 

 

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 07:44 PM

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:08 PM

I didn't hear him say he didn't have ten tvs in one room for football Sundays, so..... ;)

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 08:35 PM

:rolling:

 

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 09:41 AM

Er, Inky, remember they're just two people at this point in time! 

 

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Nope, three, also have a wife. And, one dog and three cats, so maybe three and a half :)



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Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:23 AM

Nope, three, also have a wife. And, one dog and three cats, so maybe three and a half :)

you might want you count the dog as well, don't forget about there is DogTV...


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:32 AM

you might want you count the dog as well, don't forget about there is DogTV...

I'm afraid to ask, but here goes, what is DogTV? Is that a station devoted to dogs? I mean, a station they setup for dogs to watch, like showing cats and how to track them down? :)



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Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:37 AM

'Zackly! 

 

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