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#101 OFFLINE   phrelin

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:00 AM

Tim Draper has more money than sense, particularly political sense based on his political failures to date. However, the ballot measure does have a certain appeal  You can download the PDF copy of it here. His measure designates six states by counties to be in the six new states. But it allows the counties to decide to be in different states if they so desire.

 

The smallest of the new states by population is Jefferson with slightly less than a million people. The next smallest one has 3.5 million and the remainder are much larger.

 

The problem is that the measure combines counties that do not have anything in common.  Draper's proposal uses horizontal divisions of the north part of the State which fly in the face of geology, geography, demographics, political orientation, etc. However, it wouldn't be too bad overall if most of the Coastal counties in North California and Jefferson were combined with Silicon Valley and the inland counties in North California were combined with Jefferson, reducing the number of new states to Five.

 

It all depends on Congress approving the proposal if the California voters approved it. I won't hold my breath. :sure:


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#102 OFFLINE   billsharpe

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 10:47 AM

From the map shown in today's LA Times it looks like Draper is trying to create four Republican (Jefferson, North California, South California, and Central California) and two Democratic states (West California including LA, and Silicon Valley including SF) from one Democratic state. Draper claims he is non-partisan.

 

We sure don't need ten more senators. I might vote for a proposition that got rid of ten senators, though.  :righton:


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 11:24 AM

From the map shown in today's LA Times it looks like Draper is trying to create four Republican (Jefferson, North California, South California, and Central California) and two Democratic states (West California including LA, and Silicon Valley including SF) from one Democratic state. Draper claims he is non-partisan.
 
We sure don't need ten more senators. I might vote for a proposition that got rid of ten senators, though.  :righton:


Get rid of the hundred we have and replace them by random draw. Could not be worse than what we have now.

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 06:17 PM

And to bring us up date: Six Californias initiative fails to qualify

 

What Tim Draper, the Silicon Valley venture capitalist who spent $5.2 million on the measure, knows about politics would fill a thimble but his ego crowds the state. On the other hand, he shared his wealth as a lot of people needing work made some money on the signature gathering process.

 

I first put my Three Californias website up July 15, 2005. It has been quoted extensively by or served as footnotes for others over the years, but no one emailed me to offer a million bucks to start a petition drive. :sure:


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Posted 12 September 2014 - 06:23 PM

And to bring us up date: Six Californias initiative fails to qualify
 
What Tim Draper, the Silicon Valley venture capitalist who spent $5.2 million on the measure, knows about politics would fill a thimble but his ego crowds the state. On the other hand, he shared his wealth as a lot of people needing work made some money on the signature gathering process.
 
I first put my Three Californias website up July 15, 2005. It has been quoted extensively by or served as footnotes for others over the years, but no one emailed me to offer a million bucks to start a petition drive. :sure:


Too bad you should have let me know you needed the money. I am currently funding a petition drive in Nigeria. :)

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 06:26 PM

And to bring us up date: Six Californias initiative fails to qualify

 

What Tim Draper, the Silicon Valley venture capitalist who spent $5.2 million on the measure, knows about politics would fill a thimble but his ego crowds the state. On the other hand, he shared his wealth as a lot of people needing work made some money on the signature gathering process.

 

I first put my Three Californias website up July 15, 2005. It has been quoted extensively by or served as footnotes for others over the years, but no one emailed me to offer a million bucks to start a petition drive. :sure:

As you mentioned earlier, more money than sense!



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