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#926 OFFLINE   trh

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 08:50 PM

Blog posting in Scientific American about why TWC is naming storms and why the author thinks it is good.

 

http://blogs.scienti...-a-great-thing/



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#927 OFFLINE   Mark Holtz

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 09:46 PM

The naming of storms was originally by George R. Stewart as part of a plot device for the 1941 book Storm that is set in January, 1935. I originally heard of this book through a Old Radio Dramatization, and sought the book out. I had to smile at some of the challenges that they faced in figuring out tomorrow's weather, with the ten-day forecast that we take for granted being quite impossible.

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 11:24 PM

Blog posting in Scientific American about why TWC is naming storms and why the author thinks it is good.
 
http://blogs.scienti...-a-great-thing/


Older links, but on target:

Why TWC Is Wrong To Name Winter Storms
http://www.wundergro...e-winter-storms

The likely reason for the naming of winter storms is, of course, ratings. I've stated before, TWC is, before anything else, a television channel. Without viewers, they don't exist. I have no problem with them doing things to draw more viewers. They've certainly attempted to modernize their lineup in recent years and while I'd prefer it the way it used to be, it's something I have little problem dealing with. Naming winter storms crossed the line though. This is a move that reeks of desperation.


TWC Winter Storm Naming "Will Mislead Public"
http://www.accuweath...ng-will-m/83668

After reviewing The Weather Channel's release in its entirety and taking into account all factors, Dr. Joel N. Myers, AccuWeather Founder and President, released the following statement:

"In unilaterally deciding to name winter storms, The Weather Channel has confused media spin with science and public safety. We have explored this issue for 20 years and have found that this is not good science and will mislead the public. Winter storms are very different from hurricanes. ...


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The National Weather Service has no opinion about private weather enterprise products and services. A winter storm's impact can vary from one location to another, and storms can weaken and redevelop, making it difficult to define where one ends and another begins. While the National Weather Service does not name winter storms, we do rate major winter storms after the fact.


TWC claims that they are using NWS criteria for deciding to name storms ... but the NWS does not name winter storms nor do they rate them until AFTER the storm was over. TWC might as well be naming tornadoes.
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:50 AM

For whatever it's worth, I'm watching the Atlanta snowjam through the NBC affiliate's 11 Alive website. Nice, good coverage.

I wonder what the weather channel is currently showing.
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 09:39 AM

What's interesting about James's links is that post on Weather Underground was after TWC bought it.

 

As for Cantore, it's actually fairly impressive that he didn't miss a beat. And even us that don't get TWC can see it :)



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 10:16 AM

Update: DirecTV bumps Weather Channel's Jim Cantore from Dan Patrick Show
 
Sportscaster Dan Patrick found his popular morning radio and television show caught in the middle of a feud between DirecTV and the Weather Channel.
 
Patrick's show had booked Weather Channel star Jim Cantore to appear on the show this week to talk about the forecast for Sunday's Super Bowl, which is being played in northern New Jersey.
 
 
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:17 PM

What's interesting about James's links is that post on Weather Underground was after TWC bought it.

 

As for Cantore, it's actually fairly impressive that he didn't miss a beat. And even us that don't get TWC can see it :)

One of my local stations ran the clip and mentioned that he's apparently some kind of tough guy body builder type.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:35 PM

Cantore is an idiot:  http://blog.chron.co...eather-service/


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:56 PM

What's interesting about James's links is that post on Weather Underground was after TWC bought it.

 

As for Cantore, it's actually fairly impressive that he didn't miss a beat. And even us that don't get TWC can see it :)

I think he either knew it was coming (as a publicity stunt) or he recognized it from having done the same thing himself in younger years.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 03:12 PM

I think he either knew it was coming (as a publicity stunt)

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 03:32 PM

Actually we aren't missing it, we can see it online just like we can get weather online if we wanted too. No need for the weather channel.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 03:52 PM

"See the fun you people on Directv are missing?!?"

True, but we now have Weather Nation and are getting the weather, on a weather network, when we want it.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:37 PM

What would happen if TWC (and its owners) bought out Weather Nation?

No idea if it's even feasible or if even Weather Nation would entertain being purchased, but it would be funny if it happened, hypothetically speaking.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:42 PM

What would happen if TWC (and its owners) bought out Weather Nation?

No idea if it's even feasible or if even Weather Nation would entertain being purchased, but it would be funny if it happened, hypothetically speaking.

Read post #815. They're in no position to be purchasing anything.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 04:57 PM

Read post #815. They're in no position to be purchasing anything.

I wouldn't say that.  They've bought or bought into nearly everything weather related on the web.  TWC itself may not be in a position to do it, but Bain and Blackstone are.  They could buy WN with pocket change and put it under TWC control.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:05 PM

I was speaking in hypothetical terms.

In any case, if TWC (as a stand-alone entity/corporation) is indeed debt-ridden, by no means are the owner-partners of TWC (e.g., Blackstone, NBCU) incapable of pursuing a purchase if they desire.

How much would Weather Nation be worth? Probably not a lot considering it doesn't collect retransmission fees from DirecTV and survives solely on advertising revenue, and little else. Probably a fly in the ointment to NBCU or Blackstone, or whomever is a majority stakeholder.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:42 PM

What would happen if TWC (and its owners) bought out Weather Nation?

No idea if it's even feasible or if even Weather Nation would entertain being purchased, but it would be funny if it happened, hypothetically speaking.

Go to 2 other upcoming weather channels?


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 06:24 PM

I was speaking in hypothetical terms.

In any case, if TWC (as a stand-alone entity/corporation) is indeed debt-ridden, by no means are the owner-partners of TWC (e.g., Blackstone, NBCU) incapable of pursuing a purchase if they desire.

How much would Weather Nation be worth? Probably not a lot considering it doesn't collect retransmission fees from DirecTV and survives solely on advertising revenue, and little else. Probably a fly in the ointment to NBCU or Blackstone, or whomever is a majority stakeholder.

Since we're speculating wildly, there is no assurance that the SEC would approve such an acquisition because it might concentrate too much of the product under one controlling company (monopoly, restraint of trade, etc)

 

How much further are we going to take this? Obviously, people have way too much time on their hands. (Pot/Black ack'd)


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 06:33 PM

Well, considering the many weather alternatives that people pointed out in this thread, I don't think such a merger or acquisition would be blocked, at least that's my opinion.

But it would be funny purely from DirecTV's reaction.

Would they immediately try to dump it (no idea on the contract terms, if any)? Drag the channel through the mud and say it's horrible, even if TWC leaves Weather Nation as is?

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 06:40 PM

As much as you would like to see DIRECTV in an uncomfortable situation, they would neither dump it nor dump on it.

 

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 06:40 PM

Would they immediately try to dump it (no idea on the contract terms, if any)? Drag the channel through the mud and say it's horrible, even if TWC leaves Weather Nation as is?


Assuming the contract for WeatherNation defines what DirecTV wants for a weather channel (24/7 broadcast of forecasts and the rate they are willing to pay) it could be a win for DirecTV to have TWC buy WN.
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 06:48 PM

As much as you would like to see DIRECTV in an uncomfortable situation, they would neither dump it nor dump on it.
 
Can you please find another target for your schadenfreude?


There's 48 pages of people enjoying TWC's misery. I have another perspective and I can't say it?

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 06:57 PM

There's 48 pages of people enjoying TWC's misery. I have another perspective and I can't say it?

DirecTV isn't miserable. :)
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 07:05 PM

I wouldn't outright assume TWC is either.

This entire thread is schadenfreude for the most part.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 09:57 PM

After reading comments here I tunes in WN yesterday and let it run for hours.  Basically it reminded me of TWC 10-15 years ago, and that isn't bad.

 

As I wrote a few pages back I can't and won't get all worked up about TWC.  Months ago I wrote to Mike White and told him that I am not paying for any more increases.  Maybe he saw my letter.






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