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THE WEATHER CHANNEL

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#81 OFFLINE   Bambler

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 08:45 AM

One thing about these disputes up until now (as far as I'm aware of) is that channels rarely get dropped permanently once they've been carried for a long time. I think Dish has a few and maybe DirecTV as well, but so far, that seems to be the exception and not the rule.

However, and this is a big however, if carriage agreements continue to become an item of contention (highly likely), and channels do get permanently dropped, we should be seeing prices drop if a big one goes bye-bye or multiple small ones (cumulatively).

I would be curious if DirecTV--who recently raised prices noting increased programming costs--would go the other way if they dumped a carriage agreement, without any intention of carrying it or anything else like it in the future?

I would imagine that there might be some backlash if they didn't do this, not a wide backlash, but a backlash nonetheless. I would be up in arms. Personally, I don't believe DirecTV would ever do this, no matter what got chopped.

The question I have is: how would you feel if they chopped off a channel on the order of $1 to $2 per month and didn't adjust your bill accordingly? What would happen if, over the span of two years, they dropped multiple channels totaling $5 or more per month without any adjustment and instead continued to raise prices? Would you leave?

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#82 OFFLINE   Laxguy

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 09:29 AM

If ESPN got dropped, I'd bet on a price reduction. Others, no, as they're too small in relation to the over all package, and as channels get added, there's no immediate price increase. 


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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:54 AM

If especially was dropped for any length of time, there would be a mass exodus, and a drop in price would add to a serious cash flow problem. You'd probably have to call to get a credit. But, I don't think it would ever happen. Dish would do it first. Sent from my Z10 using DBSTalk mobile app

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 02:12 PM

Dish pulled the same trick a few years ago to push TWC to become a real weather channel again, it never happend. Just a bunch of theater.



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 03:27 PM

I know a ton of older people in this country who will never have a smart phone and live in areas where weather is extremely important and will want a weather channel till the day they die. Maybe in another 40 years but for now, there's a need for these channels.

 

Probably the same demographic that's keeping the newspaper industry on life support  :slowgrin: 



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 08:35 PM

Holy cow at TWC on-screen graphics when they decide to cover real weather! They take up literally half the screen. What a joke!


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 07:43 AM

They are just a small outfit with limited resources so I don't trust them to have accurate and reliable weather. The quality of the info will be a major downgrade if they end up replacing TWC, and another example of DirecTV screwing us.

 

All TWC does is regurgitate what ONE of the several weather models, the GFS, spits out.  And it gets it wrong about half the time.  Take yesterday's storm for example, the NAM and the European had it building for several days, but until the GFS showed it, not a peep from TWC.  Then all of a sudden we have Winter Storm Hercules.

 

I don't care how small their budget is if they can analyze multiple models and not just follow one.


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 08:27 AM

TWC has gone the way of MTV.  They no longer show their base product, and  have a ton of crappy shows  instead.  Weathernation looks good enough for me. 


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 08:37 AM

All TWC does is regurgitate what ONE of the several weather models, the GFS, spits out. And it gets it wrong about half the time. Take yesterday's storm for example, the NAM and the European had it building for several days, but until the GFS showed it, not a peep from TWC. Then all of a sudden we have Winter Storm Hercules.

I don't care how small their budget is if they can analyze multiple models and not just follow one.


But how much of the European model data is freely available? Isn't most of it paid access, and how expensive is it?


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#90 OFFLINE   Rich

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 09:45 AM

All TWC does is regurgitate what ONE of the several weather models, the GFS, spits out.  And it gets it wrong about half the time.  Take yesterday's storm for example, the NAM and the European had it building for several days, but until the GFS showed it, not a peep from TWC.  Then all of a sudden we have Winter Storm Hercules.

 

I don't care how small their budget is if they can analyze multiple models and not just follow one.

 

Hercules turned out to be pretty mild.  I had both my driveway and the widow's next door done so quickly I couldn't believe it.  About 6-8" of light fluffy stuff.  My son said his drive home from work at eleven o'clock last night wasn't bad.  My phone app was more correct than any TV content that I saw.  

 

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:14 AM

Hercules turned out to be pretty mild.  I had both my driveway and the widow's next door done so quickly I couldn't believe it.  

 

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:26 AM

Hercules turned out to be pretty mild.  I had both my driveway and the widow's next door done so quickly I couldn't believe it.  About 6-8" of light fluffy stuff.  My son said his drive home from work at eleven o'clock last night wasn't bad.  My phone app was more correct than any TV content that I saw.  
 
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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:27 AM

Perhaps you might want to start doing mine...

 

I don't even want to do mine...

 

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:01 PM

But how much of the European model data is freely available? Isn't most of it paid access, and how expensive is it?


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It is a paid access model, but if a local weather blogger/TV Station (blogger is the head meteorologist) can afford it then I think any "national" weather service should be able to as well.

 

 

 

My phone app was more correct than any TV content that I saw.  

 

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 06:25 PM

I'm surprised that near 2 feet of snow that we got on new years eve, we had no signal issues, but then again it wasn't slushy wet snow.


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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:32 PM

Even though thunderstorms are unheard of during snowstorms, he acts like he never saw a thunderstorm before :)


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Unheard of?  I have been in at least 4 thunder snow storms every year.  Most of the time it snows hard here in the mountains it is during a thunderstrom.



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 01:21 PM

Unheard of?  I have been in at least 4 thunder snow storms every year.  Most of the time it snows hard here in the mountains it is during a thunderstrom.

 

We get them here in NJ, too.

 

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 06:24 PM

TWC has gone the way of MTV.  They no longer show their base product, and  have a ton of crappy shows  instead.  Weathernation looks good enough for me.


Hope Directv will keep both, but if one had to go, I would prefer to keep WeatherNation.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 07:27 PM

I will be very disappointed in DirecTV if they drop WeatherNation. Threatening to add the channel as a negotiation ploy is one issue ... but actually introducing the channel to customers and then pulling it is not good.
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Posted 04 January 2014 - 07:47 PM

I will be very disappointed in DirecTV if they drop WeatherNation. Threatening to add the channel as a negotiation ploy is one issue ... but actually introducing the channel to customers and then pulling it is not good.

Didn't Dish do exactly that when they were negotiating with TWC last time around?


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