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Windows XP going end of life


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#21 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:45 PM

Honestly, I'd try XP in a VM on 7.



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#22 OFFLINE   Steve

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:43 PM

Looks like Microsoft backed-off killing Security Essentials updates for XP on the same date. They'll now continue to provide definitions through July of 2015.

 

http://thenextweb.co...14-2015/#!sjSY0


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Posted 16 January 2014 - 06:14 AM

Looked at some of those comments, XP more stable than Windows 7? I've always found 7 very reliable, unless a company writes a bad driver or something.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:35 PM

7,audacity, and Youtube work together just fine on my pc.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:44 PM

Two issues for me:

 

I can hardly give up outlook express.

 

Is there a GOOD email program similar to it? I like writing off line, more importantly, sending out links of various web sites is a snap, and I do this often. It has to be close, I don't have the time to learn another all over again, LOL.

 

Also, the other person in the house plays older video games like COD and ww2 stuff. Don't know if this will work for him.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:13 AM

Two issues for me:

 

I can hardly give up outlook express.

 

Is there a GOOD email program similar to it? I like writing off line, more importantly, sending out links of various web sites is a snap, and I do this often. It has to be close, I don't have the time to learn another all over again, LOL.

 

Also, the other person in the house plays older video games like COD and ww2 stuff. Don't know if this will work for him.

When I got my new HP about 2 years ago with Windows 7 on it it did not have Outlook Express on it and I was upset.

I found this program called Windows Live Essentials and downloaded it and installed it.

http://windows.micro...live/essentials

 

It has plusses and minuses compared to Outlook Express. One minus is that when you put a link in it, it does not get underlined and therefore is not a link and just text, even with it in rich text mode. However, I have discovered if you get to the right end of it with the cursor and then hit enter it does underline it and turn it into a link.

A big plus is that ( I also got a Laptop close to the time I got the new HP desktop ) when I installed this onto the laptop, it picked up all my contacts and their information and the calendar stuff. If I remove or add a contact on one machine it is updated on the other.

 

You can add folders, make rules about emails and have them move directly from the Inbox to another folder determined by a rule you make up, etc.

It is very similar to Outlook Express.

 

You have to have Windows 7 or higher to use Windows Live Essentials.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:14 AM

And for the old games, same advise as before, try an an XP VM or Windows 7 Pro or higher XP Mode if they don't work on Windows 7 itself.



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 05:25 PM

I know I read somewhere that running XP [ VM] or VM in 7 still exposes XP to viruses and of course, No updates.

 

Never ran a VM, but read about it, it can get snakey, I understand.

 

J57, I will look at W live, thanks........


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:15 PM

Exposure to viruses under  a VM should be minimal, if you're not using email or a lot of surfing.



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:31 PM

Just thought of something, XP Mode may not be the best option, no 3D hardware acceleration. Virtualbox does support that (free download, you must provide the XP disc and license).

 

If the XP VM doesn't need network or Internet access, you can turn that off. So at that point you have a standalone XP machine that can't access anything. Hard for a hacker to get into or get a virus.

 

And of course you can use Firefox or Chrome (which aren't dropping XP support yet) and a third party AV after Microsoft drops Security Essentials support in 2015.



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 10:48 AM

Just finished updating my old desktop with all the Windows update and the updates to the updates and the optional updates.

Then I moved on to the security updates, Java, Adobe Reader.

Ran a full scan.

Holey Moley, 4 hours. That thing is slow. We have fast internet, Comcast 50 Mbps so the download time was minimal.

It had been about 6 months since I was on it.


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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:14 AM

Just finished updating my old desktop with all the Windows update and the updates to the updates and the optional updates.
Then I moved on to the security updates, Java, Adobe Reader.
Ran a full scan.
Holey Moley, 4 hours. That thing is slow. We have fast internet, Comcast 50 Mbps so the download time was minimal.
It had been about 6 months since I was on it.


Don't forget Flash if it's installed, they had an out of band security update.

I like a program from Secunia, PSI. Free personal scanner that checks for security updates or end of life status for all your apps.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 03:50 PM

I think XP will last a few more years based on this.

 

If you use Audacity on XP, you can copy audio from Youtube or other streaming sources. There is a Bug in 7 which does not allow you to do this. Unless one of you knows about a DLL file to modify to regain the ability.

Audacity lets me capture audio on Windows 8.1. I haven't tried this on my Windows 7 laptop.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 03:52 PM

Two issues for me:

 

I can hardly give up outlook express.

 

Is there a GOOD email program similar to it? I like writing off line, more importantly, sending out links of various web sites is a snap, and I do this often. It has to be close, I don't have the time to learn another all over again, LOL.

 

Also, the other person in the house plays older video games like COD and ww2 stuff. Don't know if this will work for him.

I've been very happy with Thunderbird as my e-mail client for many years. I hardly ever used Outlook Express, so can't vouch for its similarity to Thunderbird.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:35 AM

I haven't been able to get Audacity to record from on-line audio on Win 8.1.  Haven't spent a lot of time with it - is there any quick fix?



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:21 AM

I'd think this kind of function could be affected by drivers as well.



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:21 AM

A quick google found that you need to enable 'Stereo Mix' in the Sound / Recording.  Didn't see it but a Right-click showed disabled items.

 

Thanks for reminding me that I hadn't looked!



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:43 PM

A compatibility update was released today for 8.1 that includes Audacity, though it really only has to do with Skydrive/OneDrive.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 12:44 PM

I haven't been able to get Audacity to record from on-line audio on Win 8.1.  Haven't spent a lot of time with it - is there any quick fix?

Audacity 2.0.4 is working for me on Win 8.1 and records on-line audio with no special set-up needed.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 12:50 PM

I find it suspect -that my XP machines would not work with win7 when first released and would need to be trashed (however) now all of a sudden My same xp machines can now suddenly work if I pay to install win7 32 bit on them- very strange?


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