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Windows XP going end of life


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#61 OFFLINE   satcrazy

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 08:26 PM

there is a classic shell that can be downloaded to eight if you dislike that metro look.

 

Cholly, did you check your power supply?  I hear linux mint is suppose to be pretty good.

 

I'm po'd that security essentials won't be supported for xp. Between that, firefox. and password protecting everything, I thought I could use xp a little longer on a older IBM that just keeps chugging along. I think it's too old to invest 7 for it, i may be looking at linux as well.

 

Shame.


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:13 PM

I'm po'd that security essentials won't be supported for xp. Between that, firefox. and password protecting everything, I thought I could use xp a little longer on a older IBM that just keeps chugging along. I think it's too old to invest 7 for it, i may be looking at linux as well.

 

Shame.

 

Security Essentials support ends July 2015.

 

Mint is good, based on Ubuntu but try a live CD first to make sure all your hardware works. Drivers can be an issue, especially on a laptop.



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:30 AM

Regrding power supply on my small form factor computer. Yes, it could be bad. Its tough to check since components are so tightly packed. If it is indeed bad, no replacement is available. the supply is a 250 watt compact supply by Enhance. There are no supplies of that form factor currently available.

 

Re: Linux - yep, I've burned a DVD with Ubuntu and intend to run from the DVD. I'm worried about driver issues on the laptop, and as a last resort, will simply use it without internet access.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 11:53 AM

cholly- check serversupply.com, I've had good luck with them.

 

dpeters- Microsoft stated they will partially support essentials, if it is already installed [ If you don't have it and want it, get it now]

 

http://windows.micro...nd-support-help

 

Your right about drivers and programs compatability for linux, the only reason more people don't leave MS behind IMOP. :nono2:  I tried an old Ubuntu live cd it was pretty easy to navigate.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 02:24 PM

I tried Windows 8 preview as a dual boot on my Windows 7 laptop. I wasn't too impressed.

 

However, I bought a Windows 8 HP Pavilion with 8 GB memory and was totally impressed. 8.1 is even better. I have set it to boot to the desktop. I have a couple Tile programs that I run once in a while, most often it's the Kindle Reader and the Weather app.

 

My XP desktop is in the closet for now. Eventually I'll clean everything off it and donate it locally.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:55 PM

My XP desktop is in the closet for now. Eventually I'll clean everything off it and donate it locally.

 

I would recommend using a utility like DBAN to wipe clean the HDD very thoroughly before you donate it.  



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:34 AM

Ok, so here I was so concentrated on XP, I missed that Microsoft is ending support for MAPI at the same time. Looks like I need to get going on migrating my Good server over to EWS.

 

Office 2003 also ends if anyone actually uses that.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:42 AM

I would recommend using a utility like DBAN to wipe clean the HDD very thoroughly before you donate it.  

Thanks for the suggestion. That's exactly what I was going to use and what I meant when I said "clean it off."


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:45 AM

Office 2003 also ends if anyone actually uses that.

I am still using Visio 2003 on my Win 8.1 desktop. Upgrade is just too costly for the limited use I make of the program.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 12:27 PM

I am still using Visio 2003 on my Win 8.1 desktop. Upgrade is just too costly for the limited use I make of the program.

 

I think you're most likely OK. The real issue becomes when your email program uses Word as the editor, or opening malicious office attachments.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 03:23 AM

Today is the day Windows XP support end. This also means that Internet Explorer 6 and Office 2003 is end-of-life as well.

Good riddence Internet Explorer 6.
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Posted 08 April 2014 - 05:14 AM

As well as IE 7 and 8 for XP. A more little known end of support today is MAPI, but if you don't know what that is, you're not affected most likely.

 

If anyone still uses XP and can't upgrade to 7, please add a separate administrator account and make the one you use normally a limited user. Then stop using IE wherever possible and use either Chrome or Firefox. Security Essentials will get updates until July 2015, but I'd consider a third party AV.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 11:30 AM

If anyone still uses XP and can't upgrade to 7, please add a separate administrator account and make the one you use normally a limited user. Then stop using IE wherever possible and use either Chrome or Firefox. Security Essentials will get updates until July 2015, but I'd consider a third party AV.

 

Well said, here's a simple and easy way to disable IE just in case its accidentally used....

 

http://www.techsuppo...et_explorer.htm



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 03:40 PM

Oh, so that is why we got the "end of life" popup on a few remaining work XP machines.
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Posted 08 April 2014 - 04:23 PM

Forgive me for being lazy... but did they say anything about XP Activation going forward?

 

I get that they wouldn't support or fix bugs on the operating system... but for people/companies that have a stable setup and don't need support or upgrades... will they be unable to reinstall XP going forward?  I assume the activation servers will be gone.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:59 PM

Pretty good opinion piece, IMO, on why Microsoft should continue to patch XP.

http://www.computerw...25&pageNumber=1


I agree. I used Windows 7. XP is much better than Windows 7. One biggie is the email programme within Windows 7. Outlook Exoress s much better.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 05:14 AM

I'll ignore the outlook express comment, but how long should Microsoft continue to patch XP, another 5 years, 10? This date has been known for a long time.

And they are still patching it's just not for us.

Governments and large companies can give them a bunch of money and they will get critical patches.

The other interesting bit in this is that Server 2003 is supported until July 2015. While of course there are differences, XP and 2003 share a lot of files.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 05:23 AM

I agree. I used Windows 7. XP is much better than Windows 7. One biggie is the email programme within Windows 7. Outlook Exoress s much better.

 

Actually the point of that article wasn't that XP was superior, it was that Windows' reputation was at stake. The author fears that from a marketing standpoint, uneducated consumers may believe that all versions of Windows are insecure, even if it's only XP that's seriously compromised.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 05:49 AM

Using the same MS app - Before I didn't have enough memory 2-gig - hardware (chipset) wasn't robust enough - Dell Insp laptop 9100(2004) - MS app Now proclaims can work just fine for win7. 32 bit. So I will just limp along till win 9 comes out - using chrome and norton should last.

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With the EOL of XP (today) During the month of march I upgraded 3 of my XPsp3 Old Dell Machines to Win7 Pro SP1-32bit (DVD) - First was Pentium 4 Cpu 2.4ghz 1 gig Ram 300 gig Hd - Second was Pentium 4 3.2 ghz 2 Gig Ram -160 gig HD - Third was Pentium 4 3.2 ghz 4 Gig Ram 300 Gig HD - 

What you will need a USB DVD Burner/Recorder ($20) - Possible C-sub USB Audio ($3)(explain later)
I ordered everything from Amazon - Back in 2009 Win& was released and No of my PC's Would upgrade according to MS - Now 4 Yrs later that is not true Reason Most of the Vendors upgraded Drivers for Vista & Win7 Most of the drivers included in the Win7 pro - After doing MS updates after install completes Will Work with your PC.

The DVD Does Something really Slick it saves ALL your WinXP data on your HD in a New folder windows.old SO you can go back after it finishes and copy your Pictures ,Doc's re-run your programs fro the setup.exe files and it will install those into the new operating system. ( However) as always you should back up your stuff before anyway smiley.gif

The cost for everything (excluding) your time (please wait) $160 Way less than throwing out your old PC and buying New - And you won't have to worry about Flaws in XP going forward being exposed.

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The reason I suggest WIN7 Pro 32 bit is because it will allow you to run older programs in XP mode should you need that feature.



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Posted 09 April 2014 - 07:18 AM

XP Mode follows the same end of life as XP, but obviously it's much better to use it this way then as the primary OS.






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