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DISH Energizes Hopper Platform Giving Customers the Ability to Record Industry-Leading Eight Shows Simultaneously; Delivers Whole Hopper to Whole Home


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#1 OFFLINE   Stewart Vernon

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 01:16 PM

DISH Energizes Hopper Platform Giving Customers the Ability to Record Industry-Leading Eight Shows Simultaneously; Delivers Whole Hopper to Whole Home

  • SuperJoey™: Now record a breakthrough eight shows at once, virtually eliminating channel conflicts
  • Wireless Joey: Any TV, anywhere in the home — wirelessly using blazing fast 802.11ac Wi-Fi
  • 'Virtual Joey‘ for Sony PS3™ and PS4™, LG Smart TV: Hopper experience, including DVR control and channel guides, comes to game consoles and smart TVs
  • New DISH Anywhere™ App for iOS, Android, Kindle Fire: Now with integrated Hopper Transfers capability, the total ‘TV anywhere' solution for viewing live, recorded and video-on-demand content
  • DISH ExplorerTM App with Voice Search, Control: Use natural language to search and control live, recorded and video-on-demand shows
  • Improved User Interface: New Hopper on-screen design is easiest platform for content discovery and navigation

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Today at the 2014 International CES, DISH Network L.L.C., a subsidiary of DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH), unveiled a super-charged slate of enhancements to the award-winning Hopper™ Whole-Home HD DVR platform that extend the reach of the Hopper experience into the home and improve the overall user experience.

"The Hopper continues to break new barriers in terms of accessibility, affordability and mobility," said Joseph P. Clayton, DISH CEO and president. "You see that in the way in which DISH delivers more content and virtually ends channel conflict with SuperJoey. Our new Wireless Joeys and software-based Virtual Joeys make in-home installation options almost limitless. And, our app strategy continues to lead the way with best and most value-packed mobile entertainment experience in the market."

First introduced in 2012 and updated with built-in Sling technology last year, the 2013 CES "Best of Show" award-winning Hopper Whole-Home HD DVR and accompanying Joey set-top boxes have established a category-leading entertainment system that gives DISH customers the ability to record, pause, and play back shows from any room in the home and on the go. The Hopper features exclusive DISH innovations, including the PrimeTime Anytime® and AutoHop™ commercial-skipping features.

The Hopper's Sling technology gives customers the ability to view live and recorded television anywhere on Internet-connected tablets, smartphones and computers at no additional charge using the DISH Anywhere™ app. The app now includes DISH Transfers functionality for remote viewing when no Internet connection is available.

Hopper with SuperJoey gives customers the ability to record more shows; fights channel conflict
Customers can record up to eight shows simultaneously with Hopper by pairing it with DISH's new "SuperJoey," a client that adds two network tuners to the Hopper's native three tuners.

"With so much to watch on the Hopper, customers have asked for even more recording capability," said Vivek Khemka, DISH senior vice president of Product Management. "This upgraded ability, combined with the Hopper's capacity to store 2,000 hours of content, will anchor its place as simply the best DVR available."

While extending the capabilities of a Hopper to any television in a household, SuperJoey gives users the ability to record up to eight shows simultaneously -- any four shows plus the four major broadcast networks. Alternatively, the five network tuners give users the ability to watch and record any five shows from any network.

SuperJoeys are backwards compatible for all models of the Hopper.

Wireless Joey expands installation options
DISH's new Wireless Joey system similarly opens up installation options where coaxial or Ethernet wiring is difficult to achieve or undesirable. The Wireless Joey installation includes a Wireless Joey Access Point and a Wireless Joey client.

"High on our customers' wish list is the ability to mount a TV on any wall — they don't want to be anchored to a coax outlet or by unsightly wire runs," said Khemka.

The Wireless Joey Access Point can serve two Wireless Joey clients by creating its own dedicated 802.11ac Wi-Fi cloud within the home. This approach ensures that other Wi-Fi devices in a household do not degrade the Hopper's video quality. The Wireless Joey Access Point connects directly to the Hopper and will work in homes that do not have Internet access.

New Joey apps gives customers the ability to get the Hopper experience on gaming, Smart TV devices
DISH has joined the introduction of the new Sony PlayStation® 4 system with the release of a software app that gives users the ability to access a Virtual Joey, providing a nearly identical experience to the Hopper's hardware-based Joeys within the PS4™ environment. DISH is also releasing a Joey app for the PlayStation® 3 system.

As announced yesterday, DISH is offering a Virtual Joey client for Smart TVs from LG Electronics.

"These software-based Joey clients give customers the ability to access Hopper in any room, and customers don't have to add extra components, or even wires, to access all their DISH content," said Khemka.
As with a hardware-based Joey, the software-based clients provide access to and control of Hopper content, including live TV, recordings, video-on-demand programs and navigation of the electronic program guide.

DISH delivers updated DISH Anywhere app; adds Kindle Fire as a platform
DISH recently released its updated DISH Anywhere app for iOS and Android devices. Among the improvements is the integration of the DISH Transfers™ feature into DISH Anywhere, which gives users the ability to view recorded content where no Internet connection is available.

DISH will be releasing a version of DISH Anywhere for Kindle Fire tablets.

Voice search and control with DISH Explorer App; Updated user interface
DISH has added voice search and Hopper control capabilities to its DISH Explorer second-screen app for iPad.

"We've taken voice search for TV to a new level," said Khemka. "Customers can now perform and build voice-driven searches to find live TV shows, make video-on-demand selections or play back anything they have recorded on their Hopper."

Customers can use natural language to search by title, actor or genre and can build contextual searches that can narrow results.
In addition to search, customers can use voice commands to control basic functions of the Hopper, including recording and playback.

Finally, DISH has improved Hopper's user interface making navigation easier and has added a "recommendations" capability to the Hopper's channel guide. This feature recommends similar shows to those being watched, including TV shows, movies, sporting events or video-on-demand content.

TECH SPECS
Hopper with Sling is powered by a Broadcom BCM7425 processor and contains a two-terabyte hard drive, giving viewers the ability to record up to 500 hours of high-definition (2,000 hours of standard definition) content. DISH's Hopper includes built-in 802.11n Wi-Fi for easy connection to customers' home networks.

SuperJoey is powered by a 1305 MHz, 3000 DMIPS Broadcom BCM7346 processor, features two satellite tuners, remote finder functionality, and supports MoCA and Ethernet connectivity.

Wireless Joey is powered by a 900MHz 2000 DMIPS BCM7418 processor. The wireless performance for both the Wireless Joey and the Wireless Joey Access Point is driven by the Broadcom BCM4360 802.11ac chip operating at the 5Ghz band. The system features 3x3 MIMO with beam forming internal antennas and auto frequency selection.

Availability of SuperJoey, the Virtual Joey apps and the DISH Anywhere for Kindle Fire will be announced in the first quarter of 2014. DISH expects to release the Wireless Joey this spring.

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About DISH
DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH), through its subsidiary DISH Network L.L.C., provides approximately 14.049 million satellite TV customers, as of Sept. 30, 2013, with the highest quality programming and technology with the most choices at the best value, including HD Free for Life®. Subscribers enjoy the largest high definition line-up with more than 200 national HD channels, the most international channels, and award-winning HD and DVR technology. DISH Network Corporation is a Fortune 200 company. Visit www.dish.com.

 

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 01:28 PM

Wow!!  Dish is on a roll!

 

One shared DVR that can record from the Super Joey as well as what it tunes in?  Super!


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 01:28 PM

Of all the rumored rumors...  I can't remember SuperJoey ever coming up...  Can anyone else?

 

I mean... people have asked for more tuners... but I don't remember this one being discussed as something in the pipe.

 

I wonder how it works... The Joey can use the Hopper tuners I assume... but can the Hopper use the Joey's tuners too?  OR is it a one-way thing?  I suppose it doesn't matter if you have 5 SAT tuners available...

 

Also... could one Joey use the tuners of another Joey?  or only it's own tuners?

 

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 01:31 PM

Reading between the lines....

 

It would appear that the Super Joey would be able to record on 2 tuners with the recordings actually going on the Hopper.  This would make the Hopper+Super Joey the base to build on with 'regular' Joeys.  Since the Joeys can see and do everything (except PIP) that the Hopper can do, this is a huge step in the right direction.  

 

With 2 tuners, I wonder if the Super Joey can do PIP??

 

I wonder if all tuners appear to all Joeys in this scenario as a unified thing?


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:02 PM

I don't see the point in the Super Joey?

Why not just have 2 Hoppers?


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:06 PM

I don't see the point in the Super Joey?

Why not just have 2 Hoppers?

 

Cost.  A Super Joey uses the Hopper's hard drive to store recordings.  So no cost for that, and a side benefit is no 2nd HD to crap out.  Hard drives have always been the weakest point of DVRs.

 

So you could have a Hopper + Super Joey and record 5 things, both units would see the recordings on the Hopper and any archives on the Hoppers external hard drives (you can have 2).  Hell of a recording setup!  I'm seeing some tidbits that indicate that it might be possible to have 2 Super Joeys + Hopper though nothing official.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:10 PM

Dish is really on a roll with tech with these new announcements.

 

1.  Super Joey - adds 2 tuners to the Hopper/Joey network and shares the Hopper's hard drive and external hard drives.

 

2.  Virtual Joey on the PS3/4 - Got a PS3 in the kids room, now they can use Dish wirelessly with no problem.  Not said yet is if there will be a fee.  I would think so with Dish.

 

3.  Dish Transfer - transfer recordings to an iPad/Android/and upcoming, Kindle for play anywhere.

 

4.  Wireless Joey - for where wiring is an issue.

 

Not the wireless is on its own network and doesn't impact the home network at all.

 

All in all a hell of a day for Dish at CES no matter how you slice it!!  :)


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:45 PM

Dish is really on a roll with tech with these new announcements.

 

1.  Super Joey - adds 2 tuners to the Hopper/Joey network and shares the Hopper's hard drive and external hard drives.

 

2.  Virtual Joey on the PS3/4 - Got a PS3 in the kids room, now they can use Dish wirelessly with no problem.  Not said yet is if there will be a fee.  I would think so with Dish.

 

3.  Dish Transfer - transfer recordings to an iPad/Android/and upcoming, Kindle for play anywhere.

 

4.  Wireless Joey - for where wiring is an issue.

 

Not the wireless is on its own network and doesn't impact the home network at all.

 

All in all a hell of a day for Dish at CES no matter how you slice it!!   :)

In fairness though, is this "on a roll" really as far as matching or moving slightly ahead of DIRECTV's comparable systems all at once?

 

For instance;

 

1) This effectively gives you now 5 independent tuners matching the Genie, or 4 independent tuners with 1 tuner acting as 4 more virtual prime time TV network only tuners in delivering PTAT service moving you slightly ahead of the Genie depending how one views this feature's utility.

 

2) Equivalent to DIRECTV's Genie + RVU enabled Smart TV combo?

 

But if WiFi from the Smart TV app is allowed, then it's ahead of DIRECTV's system

 

3) Equivalent to the GenieGo's show transfer capability to portable units?

 

4) Same as DIRECTV's WVB + C41W combo? 


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:46 PM

Yeah... they seem to be piling on with the tech innovations this year... and some of it coming as a surprise too.

 

I wonder how the wiring works...  Right now you're limited to two Hoppers on a network because of the dual node... you can have more Hoppers, but they would be on a different node... and Hoppers don't really fully interact with each other.

 

A SuperJoey, however, sounds like it more closely interacts with the Hopper...  so if you can have multiple SuperJoeys... and if they don't require a different node... you could end up with more tuners on a network this way.

 

Also... if it works like I hope it works... it answers the problem people have asked about with 2 Hoppers and timer efficiency... where you have to manually look at timers on each Hopper to avoid duplication... whereas it looks like the SuperJoey will be perhaps an integrated timer setup where you would use all 5 tuners (6 if you have OTA) seemlessly.

 

To me... this kind of sounds like the endgame is to stop having multiple Hopper installs...  Just have one Hopper and then SuperJoeys and Joeys...


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:47 PM

This may allow me to re-do my current 3J/2H setup down to one Hopper, one Super Joey, and one or two 'regular' Joeys.  My 2nd Hopper has pretty much been relegated to sports and DIY/Travel recordings for those times when there's a Red Sox or Bruins game on during Prime Time and two series recording from other sat channels.

 

This could mean some cost savings and an added bonus of not having to switch between Hopper 1 and Hopper 2 on a Joey to look at all the recordings.



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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:01 PM

In fairness though, is this "on a roll" really as far as matching or moving slightly ahead of DIRECTV's comparable systems all at once?

 

For instance;

 

1) This effectively gives you now 5 independent tuners matching the Genie, or 4 independent tuners with 1 tuner acting as 4 more virtual prime time TV network only tuners in delivering PTAT service moving you slightly ahead of the Genie depending how one views this feature's utility.

 

2) Equivalent to DIRECTV's Genie + RVU enabled Smart TV combo?

 

But if WiFi from the Smart TV app is allowed, then it's ahead of DIRECTV's system

 

3) Equivalent to the GenieGo's show transfer capability to portable units?

 

4) Same as DIRECTV's WVB + C41W combo? 

 

1.  Yes, gives 5 independent tuners + PTAT (which works all the time if you so choose).  Overcomes the lack of full integration of a multi-hopper install.  Overall a step up from a Genie install by a little bit imo.

 

2.  Yes kind of, but the tech from Dish tends to work better, so I would expect this to work without some of the issues D* users have seen.  It will be wireless which the RVU is not.  The nearest to the RVU that D* uses is Dish's support in some LG tvs.

 

3.  Absolutely, very similar but without the extra cost of the GenieGo box which only has one function.  This can be done on many Android devices, iOW devices and soon for the Kindle.  I've used it on the iPad and it is very damned slick and will mirror to an AppleTV to the big screen for say when you go visit somewhere.

 

4.  Yes, very similar if I'm reading things right.  But again I suspect it will be nearly trouble free.

 

Regardless of platform you prefer, when it comes right down to the tech itself, Dish has in general done a better job of it.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:10 PM

Really the big question is what does a super Joey cost vs a second Hopper? That is the unanswered question at the moment.



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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:13 PM

Yeah... they seem to be piling on with the tech innovations this year... and some of it coming as a surprise too.

 

I wonder how the wiring works...  Right now you're limited to two Hoppers on a network because of the dual node... you can have more Hoppers, but they would be on a different node... and Hoppers don't really fully interact with each other.

 

A SuperJoey, however, sounds like it more closely interacts with the Hopper...  so if you can have multiple SuperJoeys... and if they don't require a different node... you could end up with more tuners on a network this way.

 

 

This is related to what I was about to ask;

 

With the Hopper(s)' three tuners controlling which of the three stacked DPP frequency blocks are coming from the node, how can the Super Joeys' two tuners get the DPP blocks for the channels they require if different from those the Hopper(s) may be using at any given time ?

 

Will a duo node be needed for a Hopper + Super Joey combo?

 

If so then how does the two Hopper setup work with the Super Joeys?   


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:16 PM

Cost is yet to be determined, or at least anyone that knows isn't talking yet.

 

I'm thinking for a new customer a Hopper + Super Joey + however many regular Joeys might be very minimal or zero upfront.  For an upgrade, who knows?  Monthly I suspect at first it will be the same $7 that a regular Joey is, but then next year rise a bit.  Similar to what they did for the 2nd Hoppers this year.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 04:04 PM

The more I think about this... and how the current Hopper works...

 

A Hopper has 3 tuners...  a dual node supports 2 Hoppers (6 tuners) and it requires 3 inputs from the Dish/switch.

 

So... a Hopper and a SuperJoey should have the same requirements BUT with one less tuner than a 2-Hopper installation.

 

Of course they could be planning on different node technology... and problems can be solved with DPP44 or similar switches to provide more feeds... but I don't see now that I think of it how to do this in a way that gets you anything but less tuners than you can get now.

 

Maybe that's not a deal-breaker... depending on how you use things... but some might scream over a "lost" tuner if they moved from a 2-Hopper to a Hopper + SuperJoey setup.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 04:34 PM

That's why I don't see the point of a super Joey over just adding a Hopper. Sent from my PantechP8010 using DBSTalk mobile app

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 04:35 PM

So no cost for that, and a side benefit is no 2nd HD to crap out.  Hard drives have always been the weakest point of DVRs.

Which is exactly why you would want more than one.  If they were really on the ball, they would allow all HDDs on a  system to back each other up in sort of an NAS system.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 04:41 PM

The more I think about this... and how the current Hopper works...

 

A Hopper has 3 tuners...  a dual node supports 2 Hoppers (6 tuners) and it requires 3 inputs from the Dish/switch.

 

So... a Hopper and a SuperJoey should have the same requirements BUT with one less tuner than a 2-Hopper installation.

 

Of course they could be planning on different node technology... and problems can be solved with DPP44 or similar switches to provide more feeds... but I don't see now that I think of it how to do this in a way that gets you anything but less tuners than you can get now.

 

Maybe that's not a deal-breaker... depending on how you use things... but some might scream over a "lost" tuner if they moved from a 2-Hopper to a Hopper + SuperJoey setup.

 

I read on the 'other site' that the Super Joey doesn't use the Node at all, straight from the LNB bundle.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:00 PM

I read on the 'other site' that the Super Joey doesn't use the Node at all, straight from the LNB bundle.

 

That could be true... but it still doesn't change things...

 

A dual node needs 3 feeds...  A single node needs 2 feeds...

 

So it looks like you're still stuck with a scenario that only supports a dual node (2 Hopper) or a single node (1 Hopper) + 1 Super Joey without the use of a DPP44 or something similar.

 

IF the Super Joey does work without a node... then it might be possible to run a dual node + 1 Super Joey off of a DPP44... but will Dish support that even if it technically works?

 

Consider...  It is technically possible, I gather, to mix Hopper and ViP equipment... but Dish does not officially support it.

 

So... would Dish install a dual node w/ 2 Hoppers and a SuperJoey along with a DPP44 switch and support that for a customer?

 

And... IF so... how would that even work?  The SuperJoey (if it works like a Joey) probably can only link with one Hopper at a time... so unless they really make the interconnectivity more robust, I don't know how timers and the like would work if the SuperJoey could exist in a multi-Hopper setup.

 

My gut is telling me that Dish isn't going to allow more than 1 SuperJoey and no SuperJoey at all IF you have 2 Hoppers.  I have no little birdie feeding me information... I've just been thinking about it since the news hit today.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:32 PM

Lots of good questions, I'm sure all will be answered over a relatively short period of time.

 

I think 1 Hopper + 1 Super Joey and some more regular/wireless Joeys to fill the needs will be the norm for many installs.  

 

For all the tech that  came out today, I soon won't need any of it with the possible exception of the PS3 integration, and even that only if it is a freebie.  My adult son has fallen in lus..., uh love and will soon move out with his new sweetie!!  :)

 

At that point I only have one TV and a monitor in the tech room that can also take HDMI.  I could use a PS3 for Dish there, but I can do that now w/Anywhere quite easily.  So most likely I'll be going down to one Hopper.


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