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#1 OFFLINE   dpeters11

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:38 PM

This is something I've been looking forward to. Cosmos: A Space-Time Odyssey will premiere March 9 on Fox and Nat Geo. This is the update to Carl Sagan's work, hosted by Neil DeGrasse Tyson, produced by Ann Druyan (Sagan's widow) and Seth McFarlane. To go along with the premiere, there will also be a two hour "Live From Space" from the ISS as well as Houston.

 

As someone that watched the spacewalks fixing the ISS, I'll be watching both :)



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 01:05 PM

Thanks for the heads-up


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 02:33 PM

My favorite show when it ran in the 80's.

 

Well, tied with Connections.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 02:40 PM

My favorite show when it ran in the 80's.
 
Well, tied with Connections.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 02:41 PM

Glad we agree. James Burke is as fascinating as it gets.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:18 PM

And what's amazing is that for something so old, the original Cosmos is still pretty right on the science. Of course he didn't mire it down in detail, it was generally quite broad in scope, and that helps.



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Posted 09 January 2014 - 03:38 PM

Maybe, "Cosmos Remake Premiers" rather than "Cosmos Returns"?


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 07:50 PM

picky, picky


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 09:50 PM

Maybe "Returns" is the wrong word, but it's also not a remake. 



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 07:34 AM

Maybe, "Cosmos Remake Premiers" rather than "Cosmos Returns"?

 

It's not a remake, it's a continuation.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:24 AM

This is part of an interview he did with Bill Moyers, about half an hour.

http://billmoyers.co...the-new-cosmos/


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 03:27 PM

 It's not a remake, it's a continuation.

 

It's neither, it should be called, Cosmos: TNG

 

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 05:40 PM

I was a little slow getting around to finding this August article Seth MacFarlane's Cosmos: When Good Intentions and Huge Egos Collide:
 

Last month at Comic-Con, Fox premiered the trailer for Cosmos: A Space-Time Odyssey, a "sequel" to Cosmos: A Personal Journey, the 1980 PBS documentary series created by husband-and-wife team Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan. The reboot had been announced last summer and prompted a fair amount of head-scratching, not because of its concept — Cosmos remains one of the most beloved documentaries ever created, and an update that, say, steered the Spaceship of the Imagination into a Higgs-Boson particle would be more than welcome — or even the network that would be airing it, which is more well-known for singing teenagers and evil animated babies than meditative explorations of the foundations of our universe and reality. And certainly not because of its new host, astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, who through numerous TED talks and Colbert Report appearances has proved himself to be a captivating speaker, extremely adept at making even the most abstract concepts digestible to a layperson. Nope, the weirdness was that it was coming to you courtesy of the man who brought you that evil animated baby and an entirely different Ted, Family Guy creator and renowned boob seer Seth MacFarlane.

 

My initial gut reaction, which I’m sure was similar to that of many others, was mild horror, but this being America, Seth MacFarlane can do whatever he so pleases, and I'd take his Cosmos any day over Ted: The Series. The former at least hints at MacFarlane's desire to expand his horizons, and I may not be his biggest fan, but I'm loath to be one of those haters who actively roots for problematic people to stay in their rut and never try to improve as humans and creators. MacFarlane seems to be genuinely reverent of Sagan's original work: "I’m dismayed at the rejection of science that’s reemerging in America. There’s nothing out there that glamorizes science the way Cosmos did," he told Wired last summer. MacFarlane, like everybody else, has interests outside his primary line of work, and the workings of space-time appears to be one of them (me, too, Seth!)....

 

The writer goes on offer some fearful skepticism. But Sagan and Druyan were of a generation that communicated to people whose attention span was longer than 144 characters. Tyson and MacFarlane have been effective at holding the attention of the Twitter generation. Well, actually, the appeal of the show back then was limited and likely the sequel will have a limited audience.

 

Anyway, I love this trailer:

 


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 06:53 PM

I was less concerned about McFarlane than Fox being involved. They are the ones that did the "documentary" on the Moon landing being faked.

 

However, I have faith that Tyson would never agree to be involved with something that wasn't accurate. I found his Sagan story interesting. Someone saw something in Tyson at age 17, I'm sure Sagan even then didn't look at that many incoming applications, then to personally invite Tyson to campus and give him a tour. It can't be just that Tyson was from the Bronx and Sagan from Brooklyn.

 

Still wasn't enough for Tyson to choose Cornell though :)



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:59 AM

And what's amazing is that for something so old, the original Cosmos is still pretty right on the science. Of course he didn't mire it down in detail, it was generally quite broad in scope, and that helps.

 

I've got the original Cosmos series on DVD.  Pretty bad PQ, but if you want it, send me your mailing address and I'll send it to you, if I still have it and if I can find it.  

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:04 PM

It's not a remake, it's a continuation.

 

The thing I remember most about that show is how quickly it put me to sleep.  Sagan's voice was soporific (always wanted to use that word, first opportunity).  It took me a long time, and many naps, to work my way thru that.  I did enjoy it and I like naps, so it all worked out.  At the time it was aired, it was pretty mind-blowing, I think.

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:12 PM

The thing I remember most about that show is how quickly it put me to sleep.  Sagan's voice was soporific (always wanted to use that word, first opportunity).  It took me a long time, and many naps, to work my way thru that.  I did enjoy it and I like naps, so it all worked out.  At the time it was aired, it was pretty mind-blowing, I think.

 

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If that show first aired in '80, I must have recorded reruns on my VCRs.  Seemed like I watched it "billions and billions" of times before I finally finished it.

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:13 PM

 

 

Anyway, I love this trailer:

 



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:15 PM

 

 

 

Anyway, I love this trailer:

 

 

 

The first 20 seconds almost put me to sleep.  There's just something about Sagan's voice...

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:47 PM

The thing I remember most about that show is how quickly it put me to sleep.  Sagan's voice was soporific (always wanted to use that word, first opportunity).  It took me a long time, and many naps, to work my way thru that.  I did enjoy it and I like naps, so it all worked out.  At the time it was aired, it was pretty mind-blowing, I think.

 

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He did have that kind of voice, when he wasn't whooping at least.

 

I actually have a copy, but thanks for the offer.

 

I do wish I had met him, I did see his house once, from a distance. I was told that if you drove by with the radio on, it would go haywire. Don't know if that's true, though it was a very interesting house, the original building was for a secret society.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

Many people think Carl Sagan was the "Genius of the 20th Century".  After reading several of his books, I agree.  His last book was a good read.

 

Your DVD set have a good picture?  I've been wishing for a BD of the original.

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 04:19 PM

He definitely had his critics in the academic world, he was of course too "popular" and as time went on did less and less actual teaching at Cornell. 

 

I did run into an interesting story, of a film student getting an invitation to dinner at the Sagan house, for no reason that he knew of, he didn't even attend Cornell.

 

http://adaptingsidew...-dr-carl-sagan/



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:26 PM

Alan Silvestri has been announced as composer.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:57 PM

The thing I remember most about that show is how quickly it put me to sleep.  Sagan's voice was soporific (always wanted to use that word, first opportunity).  It took me a long time, and many naps, to work my way thru that.  I did enjoy it and I like naps, so it all worked out.  At the time it was aired, it was pretty mind-blowing, I think.

 

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I won't deny the "soporific" quality, but I think that is a narrow description of what Sagan brought to the show. He had a gentle, puposeful delivery that seemed very comforting, and his boundless enthusiasm was what made listeners stop and investigate whether there was something profound behind the wall of words.

 

After all, this was information that could not be imparted in 140 characters; it was long and droning just in its nature, and anything less would have done it a disservice. Sagan found a way to do this without talking down to us mere mortals. He was pretty terrific at that.

 

Personally, I loved both the exploration and the dispense of knowledge but I also was very comforted by it being delivered by Carl Sagan, who was the perfect host for a series such as this. He felt like a "genius uncle" who you always were delighted by whenever he would visit. I was very sad when he passed.

 

And, IIRC correctly, the phrase "billions and billions" was nothing more than something conceived in a SNL-type parody (but more a tribute than mean-spirited), and Sagan never actually uttered that phrase even once in the entire series.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:10 AM

...And, IIRC correctly, the phrase "billions and billions" was nothing more than something conceived in a SNL-type parody (but more a tribute than mean-spirited), and Sagan never actually uttered that phrase even once in the entire series.

 

I had always attributed the "billions and billions" phrase to Sagan.

If, in fact, it was from an SNL parody, at least it was ~accurate.* Can

anyone dig up that SNL episode/sketch on YouTube?

 

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