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#21 OFFLINE   Rich

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

Many people think Carl Sagan was the "Genius of the 20th Century".  After reading several of his books, I agree.  His last book was a good read.

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 04:19 PM

He definitely had his critics in the academic world, he was of course too "popular" and as time went on did less and less actual teaching at Cornell. 

 

I did run into an interesting story, of a film student getting an invitation to dinner at the Sagan house, for no reason that he knew of, he didn't even attend Cornell.

 

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:26 PM

Alan Silvestri has been announced as composer.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 11:57 PM

The thing I remember most about that show is how quickly it put me to sleep.  Sagan's voice was soporific (always wanted to use that word, first opportunity).  It took me a long time, and many naps, to work my way thru that.  I did enjoy it and I like naps, so it all worked out.  At the time it was aired, it was pretty mind-blowing, I think.

 

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I won't deny the "soporific" quality, but I think that is a narrow description of what Sagan brought to the show. He had a gentle, puposeful delivery that seemed very comforting, and his boundless enthusiasm was what made listeners stop and investigate whether there was something profound behind the wall of words.

 

After all, this was information that could not be imparted in 140 characters; it was long and droning just in its nature, and anything less would have done it a disservice. Sagan found a way to do this without talking down to us mere mortals. He was pretty terrific at that.

 

Personally, I loved both the exploration and the dispense of knowledge but I also was very comforted by it being delivered by Carl Sagan, who was the perfect host for a series such as this. He felt like a "genius uncle" who you always were delighted by whenever he would visit. I was very sad when he passed.

 

And, IIRC correctly, the phrase "billions and billions" was nothing more than something conceived in a SNL-type parody (but more a tribute than mean-spirited), and Sagan never actually uttered that phrase even once in the entire series.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:10 AM

...And, IIRC correctly, the phrase "billions and billions" was nothing more than something conceived in a SNL-type parody (but more a tribute than mean-spirited), and Sagan never actually uttered that phrase even once in the entire series.

 

I had always attributed the "billions and billions" phrase to Sagan.

If, in fact, it was from an SNL parody, at least it was ~accurate.* Can

anyone dig up that SNL episode/sketch on YouTube?

 

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 11:12 AM

"Despite being known for, and frequently quoted with, his famous phrase "billions and billions...", Carl Sagan never actually said it during the entire single-season run of Cosmos (1980). The actual phrase is "billions UPON billions," and the complete quote which includes this often-misquoted phrase is "A galaxy is composed of gas and dust and stars - billions upon billions of stars.""

 

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 12:28 PM

I won't deny the "soporific" quality, but I think that is a narrow description of what Sagan brought to the show. He had a gentle, puposeful delivery that seemed very comforting, and his boundless enthusiasm was what made listeners stop and investigate whether there was something profound behind the wall of words.

 

After all, this was information that could not be imparted in 140 characters; it was long and droning just in its nature, and anything less would have done it a disservice. Sagan found a way to do this without talking down to us mere mortals. He was pretty terrific at that.

 

Personally, I loved both the exploration and the dispense of knowledge but I also was very comforted by it being delivered by Carl Sagan, who was the perfect host for a series such as this. He felt like a "genius uncle" who you always were delighted by whenever he would visit. I was very sad when he passed.

 

And, IIRC correctly, the phrase "billions and billions" was nothing more than something conceived in a SNL-type parody (but more a tribute than mean-spirited), and Sagan never actually uttered that phrase even once in the entire series.

 

I didn't say I didn't like the show.  I said his voice put me to sleep.  I never referenced anything negative about him.  



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 12:35 PM

I had always attributed the "billions and billions" phrase to Sagan.

If, in fact, it was from an SNL parody, at least it was ~accurate.* Can

anyone dig up that SNL episode/sketch on YouTube?

 

* :shrug:

 

So we got it screwed up because we used "and" instead of "upon"?  We should be flailed.  I can only hope that it is the last mistake we both make.  

 

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 01:38 PM

I didn't say I didn't like the show.  I said his voice put me to sleep.  I never referenced anything negative about him.  

 

Didn't say you didn't. Go back and read, then read my sig.

 

Henry's source indicates it was a Johnny Carson impression that the parody sprung from.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:46 PM

Didn't say you didn't. Go back and read, then read my sig.

 

Henry's source indicates it was a Johnny Carson impression that the parody sprung from.

 

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 03:03 PM

Suit yourself, that sounds fascinating. Be sure to post something meaningless and out of context regarding that, too.


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Posted 01 March 2014 - 08:12 AM

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:55 PM

For all I know it could have been SNL though I couldn't find a clip, but here's Johnny:

 

 

But I do believe the original "Cosmos" episode ran September 28, 1980.


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Posted 01 March 2014 - 07:05 PM

I recall 'back on the day' Sagan being asked about his considerable amount of face time on Cosmos, and he said the answer was quite simple.

 

Despite the generosity of the donors and backers, the series was necessarily quite expensive to produce and it was relatively 'cheap' for him to pose in front of a set piece and go on with the monologue for a while.

 

(I think at the time we were then supposed to call in during the next pledge drive and bump up our donation, LOL)

 

 

 

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 10:34 PM

National Geographic Channel is also showing the entire 13 Episode Original series starting 3/8/2014 at 11am Central time for those wanting to record it.


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Posted 02 March 2014 - 12:32 PM

I recall 'back on the day' Sagan being asked about his considerable amount of face time on Cosmos, and he said the answer was quite simple.

 

Despite the generosity of the donors and backers, the series was necessarily quite expensive to produce and it was relatively 'cheap' for him to pose in front of a set piece and go on with the monologue for a while.

 

(I think at the time we were then supposed to call in during the next pledge drive and bump up our donation, LOL)

 

 

 

:righton:

 

If that is indeed the case, it is only a tribute to how good Carl Sagan was at doing that. The show was absolutely spell-binding, and maybe he's why.


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 05:48 PM

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 07:22 PM

I am a little curious.

 

The episode titles for the eps that will be on FOX do not match the ep titles for the shows on Nat Geo on 3-8. Are there two different new Cosmos products out there (not including the 1980 version)?

 

Guess I'll just record it all and sort it out later.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 08:49 PM

No, it's the same. The first episode is being broadcast on more channels, then will settle onto Fox on Sundays, Nat Geo on Monday.



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:37 AM

No, they were not. The 3-8 eps on Nat Geo were actually the 1980 series.

 

There was a prologue by Ann Druyan; it is easy to see how a genius scientist would be attracted to another genius scientist like her, she is a very impressive person. Still kinda hot, too.

 

I had little time, but I watched the first 5 minutes. Just that lucious orchestral music took me all the way back to 1980, and Sagan was everything I remembered, if not more.

 

Sadly, it was not retelecined to HD, but was an old SD copy (on an HD network). I would almost rather buy the DVDs.

 

Word on the street is that Obama will intro the show tonight on FOX.


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