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Genie Upgrade/Install on Sunday!

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#1 OFFLINE   nj1313

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 03:15 PM

I currently have 2 HR24's and 1 HR23 in my home.

I am replacing the HR23 with a new Genie HDDVR.  I have a couple of Questions:

 

1.) What are the chances I get an HR44, instead of an HR34?

 

2.) Does the Genie HDDVR have GenieGo built in or would I need to also go buy the GenieGo product to be able to watch my playlist selections on my other mobile devices?

 

3.) If I have an SWM-8, would I need them to upgrade it to an SWM-16? And would this be part of the professional install I am paying for?

 

4.) Am I forgetting anything else?  LOL!

 

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#2 OFFLINE   brian26339

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 03:51 PM

1. Don't know what your chances are but be sure to ask the installer for an HR44 if you what one. I just had one installed last week and the installer was going to install a 34 until I asked for a 44. He said he had one on the trunk and was saving it for someone who specifically asked for it. A morning appointment also might help your chances. It also didn't hurt my cause that I had 20 good reasons in my hand when I asked, if you know what I mean.

 

2. GenieGo is a separate device.

 

3. I know swim 8 obviously only supports 8 tuners. Genie has 5 and the 2 HR's you are keeping each have 2 for a total of 9. Swim 16 would be where you need to go. Someone else on here might know better than me, but I believe they have the stuff on the truck to do the swim upgrade. I would probably make sure they knew it was needed ahead of time. 

 

4. Not that I can think of.

 

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 03:56 PM

3. [A note to add] It would be part of the install. You could also deactivate one tuner on one or the HR24s to get back to eight. 


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 04:01 PM

You could also deactivate one tuner on one or the HR24s to get back to eight.

I can't, in good conscience, recommend an incomplete install; especially if someone else is footing the bill.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 04:52 PM

I can't, in good conscience, recommend an incomplete install; especially if someone else is footing the bill.

And I seriously doubt it an installer will leave like this...


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 04:53 PM

Moving from SWiM8 to 16 requires additional wiring. Be sure to discuss with tech to ensure he has access. HR44 is much more prevalent than before, but still a 50/50 chance. Doesn't hurt to have an extra 20 reason lying around ;) GenieGo is $99 extra, and depending on who you ask, is either a great idea or a waste of time. If watching DVR items in 480p while on the road (or plugged into laptop while on the road), then you'll be fine. HD not available, since all shows are re-encoded from DVR to GenieGo..

 

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 06:07 PM

You righteous brothers (harsh and peds) should understand I am not recommending this, but it is an option available, especially if a self install is ever in the cards.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 06:39 PM

I just had a SWM 16 installed last week. Be certain to discuss with your installer prior to installation. Had I not done my research, my installer would have wasted a lot of time and likely would have left without a proper install. My tech was a nice guy who did good/neat work but was relatively new on the job and lacked proper training.

This is what you need.

1. New LNB with four coax connections
2. Four coax cables running between dish/LNB and SWM 16
3. 29v power supply for SWM 16
4. There are 2 SWM ports on the SWM 16. The genie will connect to one of these ports. A splitter will be connected to the other port which will feed your other DVRs/Receivers (up to 8 tuners)
5. Insist that the SWM 16 is installed indoors
6. Proper install will include the power down of all receivers and DVRs and then turning them on one by one.

If you google directv SWM 16 you will find a good wiring diagram you can provide the installer, if need be


Insist on the HR44 or reschedule install - it is incredibly fast - making the HR-24 seem slow (which it is not)

Good luck and enjoy. Don't be afraid to babysit/handhold the installer.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:57 PM

I just had a SWM 16 installed last week. Be certain to discuss with your installer prior to installation. Had I not done my research, my installer would have wasted a lot of time and likely would have left without a proper install. My tech was a nice guy who did good/neat work but was relatively new on the job and lacked proper training.

This is what you need.

1. New LNB with four coax connections
2. Four coax cables running between dish/LNB and SWM 16
3. 29v power supply for SWM 16
4. There are 2 SWM ports on the SWM 16. The genie will connect to one of these ports. A splitter will be connected to the other port which will feed your other DVRs/Receivers (up to 8 tuners)
5. Insist that the SWM 16 is installed indoors
6. Proper install will include the power down of all receivers and DVRs and then turning them on one by one.

If you google directv SWM 16 you will find a good wiring diagram you can provide the installer, if need be


Insist on the HR44 or reschedule install - it is incredibly fast - making the HR-24 seem slow (which it is not)

Good luck and enjoy. Don't be afraid to babysit/handhold the installer.


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4. Depending on your installation/receivers, you can connect a splitter to one of both ports.  and the Genie does not necessarily needs to be bi itself.  As a matter of fact, I would recommend connecting the Genie and any Genie minis to the same SWM port.

5. SWM16 can be and is made to be installed outdoors.

6. not necessarily 


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 09:29 PM

4. Depending on your installation/receivers, you can connect a splitter to one of both ports. and the Genie does not necessarily needs to be bi itself. As a matter of fact, I would recommend connecting the Genie and any Genie minis to the same SWM port.
5. SWM16 can be and is made to be installed outdoors.
6. not necessarily


Although the SWM16 is made for outdoor use, you will be better served and avoid potential issues down the road if it is installed indoors. Indoors it is protected from the elements. Just my 2cents.

Good luck with the install on Sunday.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:53 AM

Although the SWM16 is made for outdoor use, you will be better served and avoid potential issues down the road if it is installed indoors. Indoors it is protected from the elements. Just my 2cents.

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the same can be said about many things. The fact is that a properly installed SWM16 outdoors should have no problems. Mine has been outside for over 3 years and so far no issues


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:05 AM

Thanks for all of the information Gang...

 

I will have a "pep" talk with the installer when he gets here.

 

I have a morning (8AM-Noon) appointment time and will ask him when he arrives that I'd like an HR44 (if he has one on the truck) and that the install will need an SWM-16 upgrade from my SWM-8.

My SWM is outside, but under my deck along the house out of all of the elements :-)  I've never had any issues with my SWM-8, so I don't think outside will be an issue.

 

We'll see how it goes...thanks again!


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:12 AM

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My SWM is outside, but under my deck along the house out of all of the elements :-) I've never had any issues with my SWM-8, so I don't think outside will be an issue.

We'll see how it goes...thanks again!

exactly, you will be fine. Let us know how the install goes....


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:53 AM

One last question...

 

My new Genie DVR will work with my 2 HR24's with regards to Whole Home, right?  I don't need to get Genie Mini's or anything like that, right?

I'll be able to watch programs saved on my Genie on my HR24's and programs saved on my HR24's on my Genie?


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:04 AM

One last question...

 

My new Genie DVR will work with my 2 HR24's with regards to Whole Home, right?  I don't need to get Genie Mini's or anything like that, right?

I'll be able to watch programs saved on my Genie on my HR24's and programs saved on my HR24's on my Genie?

 

Yes to all 3 of your "One last questions".


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:03 PM

One last question...

 

My new Genie DVR will work with my 2 HR24's with regards to Whole Home, right?  I don't need to get Genie Mini's or anything like that, right?

I'll be able to watch programs saved on my Genie on my HR24's and programs saved on my HR24's on my Genie?

as Mr Broderick mentioned, you are correct on all fronts.  What you will not be able to do is managed either DVR from another DVR. 


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:18 PM

as Mr Broderick mentioned, you are correct on all fronts.  What you will not be able to do is managed either DVR from another DVR. 

 What does this mean?  I won't be able to watch something on one HR24 to another HR24?  That would defeat the purpose of whole home, no?


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:24 PM

 What does this mean?  I won't be able to watch something on one HR24 to another HR24?  That would defeat the purpose of whole home, no?

I said you are correct. which means you can watch the playlist anywhere.  However, you can't schedule a show to record on the Genie from an HR24.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:26 PM

I said you are correct. which means you can watch the playlist anywhere.  However, you can't schedule a show to record on the Genie from an HR24.

Oh....  I can't do that now anyways with my 3 HD DVR's...  Thought you can only program a recording from the actual HRDVR itself or online...

 

Only thing I can do one HDDVR to another is watch and delete shows...


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 01:01 PM

Oh....  I can't do that now anyways with my 3 HD DVR's...  Thought you can only program a recording from the actual HRDVR itself or online...

 

Only thing I can do one HDDVR to another is watch and delete shows...

Correct and that stays the same, no change there.


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