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Directv dropping INSP? Absolutely disgusting.....


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#51 OFFLINE   joed32

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:32 AM

you are right.  Hopefully no one got offended by my post, it was just a joke.  If anyone did, my apologies.

You young whippersnapper! LOL



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 09:03 AM

You young whippersnapper! LOL

 

Whippersnappers must live a very dangerous life. I've only heard of young whippersnappers; never old ones.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:15 AM

As a practical matter, I'm averse to losing any currently offered channel.

 

And, while I'm about the farthest thing from religious there is, I actually did, occasionally, watch this channel, now that it's gone  more general interest. Particularly at Christmas, where they had some interesting and unique holiday, family programming. (I'm a sucker for a Christmas special.)

 

So, while it's not something I'm gonna protest in the streets (far from it), it's also not something I'm happy to see as a longtime DirecTV customer. 

 

Also, a +1 from me for adding UP in HD ... Again, they're one of the core Christmas movie providers and seeing them in HD would be awesome.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:29 AM

as an aside (FYI)

 

Taken from phrases.org.uk

 

Meaning
 
A diminutive or insignificant person, especially a sprightly or impertinent youngster.
 
Origin
 
'Whipper snapper' is now a rather archaic term and, although you might hear it in black and white British films, those who are young and streetwise enough to actually be whipper snappers aren't likely to use it.
 
'Whipper snappers' were known by various names, all of them derived from the habit of young layabouts of hanging around snapping whips to pass the time. Originally these ne'er-do-wells were known simply, and without any great linguistic imagination, as 'whip snappers'. This term merged with an existing 17th century term for street rogues - 'snipper snappers', to become 'whipper snapper'. Christopher Marlowe mentions 'snipper snapper' in the 1604 edition of The Tragicall History of Doctor Faustus, when referring to a 'hey-pass', which is what street jugglers were known as in Marlowe's day.
 

But I'll seeke out my Doctor... O yonder is his snipper snapper... You, hey-pass, where's your master?
 
The meaning of 'whipper snapper' has altered over the years, originally referring to a young man with no apparent get up and go, to be applied to a youngster with an excess of both ambition and impudence.



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:32 AM

JAG was rerun to death on USA for more than a decade. Losing the 156th rerun of an episode is no loss.


In your opinion. Since that is what we are all expressing here.

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:42 AM

JAG was rerun to death on USA for more than a decade.  Losing the 156th rerun of an episode is no loss.

Obviously there was a market for it.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:55 AM

As a practical matter, I'm averse to losing any currently offered channel.

And, while I'm about the farthest thing from religious there is, I actually did, occasionally, watch this channel, now that it's gone more general interest. Particularly at Christmas, where they had some interesting and unique holiday, family programming. (I'm a sucker for a Christmas special.)

So, while it's not something I'm gonna protest in the streets (far from it), it's also not something I'm happy to see as a longtime DirecTV customer.

Also, a +1 from me for adding UP in HD ... Again, they're one of the core Christmas movie providers and seeing them in HD would be awesome.


Totally agree. My daughter and I watched a lot of Christmas movies on that channel.

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 11:33 AM

Looked like they were carrying more and more 'redundant' programming. And this is an industry wide problem, most channels are moving towards carrying pretty much the same stuff.  How many channels do we need carrying reruns?

 

Weird the channel survived the Bakkers, but the industry wide homogenization of content looks like it is doing them in. 

The Bakkers were rich with a theme park ETC.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 02:41 PM

Yes but UP is not available to ALL PACKAGES like INSP was! (Just the higher paying ones)

 

Ummm try again

Up! is in Family and Entertainment and above. It is not in Select (the old retention package). So if you really want to split hairs I guess you're right that one not publically offered package doesnt have it

 

Also Up is paid to be on Directv. INSP PAYS to be on providers. As a tradeoff of paying to be on a provder it is offered in all packages


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 08:19 AM

as an aside (FYI)

 

Taken from phrases.org.uk

 

Meaning
 
A diminutive or insignificant person, especially a sprightly or impertinent youngster.
 
Origin
 
'Whipper snapper' is now a rather archaic term and, although you might hear it in black and white British films, those who are young and streetwise enough to actually be whipper snappers aren't likely to use it.
 
'Whipper snappers' were known by various names, all of them derived from the habit of young layabouts of hanging around snapping whips to pass the time. Originally these ne'er-do-wells were known simply, and without any great linguistic imagination, as 'whip snappers'. This term merged with an existing 17th century term for street rogues - 'snipper snappers', to become 'whipper snapper'. Christopher Marlowe mentions 'snipper snapper' in the 1604 edition of The Tragicall History of Doctor Faustus, when referring to a 'hey-pass', which is what street jugglers were known as in Marlowe's day.
 

But I'll seeke out my Doctor... O yonder is his snipper snapper... You, hey-pass, where's your master?
 
The meaning of 'whipper snapper' has altered over the years, originally referring to a young man with no apparent get up and go, to be applied to a youngster with an excess of both ambition and impudence.

It was also used on TV in the U.S. in black and white. I'm 74 so I've heard it a lot in my lifetime. In this case I was using it as a joke in reply to another joke.



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:42 AM

"Public Interest" channels pay for retransmission ... the rates are based on the cost of the transponder space. Satellite carriers must make a certain amount of space available at each satellite location for PI channels. If there are not enough channels willing to pay for the space satellite carriers don't have to meet the quota.

The channels must be non-commercial (no advertising except what is allowed on a non-commercial station) and there can only be one from each provider (unless there are not enough providers to buy all available slots).

DirecTV has it right ... they offer channel space for sale to broadcasters such as INSP. INSP has it right that their programming is free. What INSP has failed to mention (or contradict) is that they paid for that satellite space. They think DirecTV should carry them for free.

INSP needs to pay for the satellite space just like they would pay for any other distribution method.

 

INSP carries plenty of commercials so there must be some sort of confusion here.



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Posted 06 February 2014 - 05:41 PM

INSP carries plenty of commercials so there must be some sort of confusion here.


They must have been carried under a special arrangement. Just because a channel ISN'T a PI doesn't mean they cannot be asked to pay for their inclusion. DirecTV gets money from the shopping and infomercial channels. If INSP is popular enough to make money they are popular enough to pay for their carriage. What is becoming clear is that they are not popular enough to BE paid for carriage.
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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:17 PM

They must have been carried under a special arrangement. Just because a channel ISN'T a PI doesn't mean they cannot be asked to pay for their inclusion. DirecTV gets money from the shopping and infomercial channels. If INSP is popular enough to make money they are popular enough to pay for their carriage. What is becoming clear is that they are not popular enough to BE paid for carriage.

DirecTV does that for several channels. MavTV is paying to be on, Cinemoi was paying to be on up until July when they were dropped for not paying. Bandiwdth wise, INSP was replaced with GOGO an infomercial channel on 262 and 81.

Basically if it's available in all of the base packages and it isn't a PI channel or a major cable channel like USA or Nickelodeon, they're likely paying to be on the lineup.




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