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Use iPhone hotspot as internet source for DTV?


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#41 OFFLINE   west99999

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:26 PM

Or sharing the internet connection! Peds is quite right; they are very different....

Actually they are the same by definition tethering over wifi is known as a mobile hotspot.

 

"If tethering is done over Wi-Fi, the feature may be branded as a Mobile Hotspot."



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 09:32 PM

Actually they are the same by definition tethering over wifi is known as a mobile hotspot.

 

"If tethering is done over Wi-Fi, the feature may be branded as a Mobile Hotspot."

Right, but while a Wi-Fi hotspot may include an smartphone, Smartphone tethering using bluetooth is not.  So when you mentioned tethering, and smartphone (or tablet) is involved, the same can't be said about a 'hotspot" 


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 10:56 PM

Actually they are the same by definition tethering over wifi is known as a mobile hotspot.

 

"If tethering is done over Wi-Fi, the feature may be branded as a Mobile Hotspot."

Wiki is the source for this definitive statement?? They also headed the article with:

This article is about Wi-Fi fixed hotspots. For hotspots running on a mobile telephone, see tethering. For other uses, see Hotspot (disambiguation).

 

They are not the same to most people. 


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 09:28 AM

Wiki is the source for this definitive statement?? They also headed the article with:
This article is about Wi-Fi fixed hotspots. For hotspots running on a mobile telephone, see tethering. For other uses, see Hotspot (disambiguation).

They are not the same to most people.

yep, exactly my thinking, thanks for the link.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:07 PM

Usually with a cellular phone if the device is connected using a cable or bluetooth it is considered tethering.  If the cellular phone is broadcasting a wifi signal that can be connected to by multiple devices it is considered being a hot spot.  So since the OP would be connecting to his phone using WiFi I too would consider this as being used as a hot spot.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:14 PM

Usually with a cellular phone if the device is connected using a cable or bluetooth it is considered tethering.  If the cellular phone is broadcasting a wifi signal that can be connected to by multiple devices it is considered being a hot spot.  So since the OP would be connecting to his phone using WiFi I too would consider this as being used as a hot spot.

Right, but the point is/was that tethering was only hotspot as well, which is not 


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:18 PM

Now that we've got the tethering/hotspot and Cellular provider stuff out of the way I guess we could get back to the original question.

 

Yes I think everything could be made to work as long as you are aware of the possibility of running into data plan issues.

 

That said have you thought about getting one of these (or one of the other devices like it) and using it instead of a jailbroken iPhone.  Seems like it would be a bit cleaner, and you might be able to configure port forwarding etc with it.

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As far as the Genie Go, I'm wondering if you could hook it up to the ethernet port of a WCCK, anyone here ever try that?  Hooking it up to the WCCK would give it access to your DECA cloud and therefore all his DVRs and Genie.  Then the WCCK would hook up over WiFi to his iPhone hot spot.  Or does hooking up an ethernet cable to the WCCK turn off it's WiFi?


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:38 PM

the GenieGO only gets connected to an ethernet port, thus you need a way to connect the GenieGO using wireless since the Apple decided not to include an ethernet port on their iPhones, a gaming adapter accomplishes this.  Although not sure that OOH will work  since you would have to forward ports and there is no way to do that with the iPhone that I am aware of

 

 

Now that we've got the tethering/hotspot and Cellular provider stuff out of the way I guess we could get back to the original question.

 

 

 

As far as the Genie Go, I'm wondering if you could hook it up to the ethernet port of a WCCK, anyone here ever try that?  Hooking it up to the WCCK would give it access to your DECA cloud and therefore all his DVRs and Genie.  Then the WCCK would hook up over WiFi to his iPhone hot spot.  Or does hooking up an ethernet cable to the WCCK turn off it's WiFi?

Yup, I mentioned this way back at the beginning of the tread.  But note that since there is a lack of and "advanced" router, i will doubt OOH will work 


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:46 PM

Yeah I knew you had mentioned a gaming adapter, but hadn't seen any mention of just using a DirecTV WCCK.  Its a little different from a gaming adapter, so I thought I would mention it.  I'm not 100% sure if it would work though.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:49 PM

A gaming adapter and the CCK-W is pretty much the same thing.  the CCK-W has the addition of DECA which is this case is not needed as all the GG needs is a connection to the customer's network.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 04:27 PM

The Genie Go also has to be connected to the DECA network somehow.  Either the DECA network needs it's own connection to his WiFi hot spot so they can talk together over it, or it must be connected directly to the coax network.  Otherwise it can't see his DVRs or their recordings.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 08:00 PM

The Genie Go also has to be connected to the DECA network somehow.  

No it does not.  the GG1 connects to the customer network,(LAN)  the receiver (or DirecTV system) must connect to the customer network (LAN) in order to see the GG1.  DECA "network" or "cloud" as far as GG is concerned is not involved.  


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 08:06 PM

Well, it certainly needs to be connected to the Home LAN, but at some point it needs to phone home, doesn't it? (I am not at home and cannot test.) If so, then a line to the outside world needs to be operable. 


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 08:10 PM

Semantics.  It's connected to the same network one way or the other.



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Posted 18 February 2014 - 07:58 PM

Thanks All. This doesn't appear to work. I tried going all weekend without broadband internet and I didn't realize how many things I have hooked up to the internet at one time (more than 5)


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:38 PM

The DVRs are designed with having a 24\7 connection to the internet, so unless you leave the iPhone as a permanent modem, then it may not work.

 

If you leave the iPhone as a permeant modem an you get an gaming adapter for the GenieGO, then you may be in business.  note that the iPhone can only support up to 5 devices on tethering mode.

 

 

Thanks All. This doesn't appear to work. I tried going all weekend without broadband internet and I didn't realize how many things I have hooked up to the internet at one time (more than 5)


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 08:39 PM

Yep. I thought I could get by, but at times I probably had ten devices on my wifi.


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