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#121 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:43 PM

CNN, Fox and MSNBC continue their regular news discussion programming overnight. The infomercial comment is off base.

We have not had a 24/7 news only loop for years ... the type of channel where one could go "around the world in 30 minutes" and watch a newscast in the style of the evening news any time. While one could bemoan the loss no one has stepped up to provide a replacement. Perhaps there is not enough demand for a 30 minute updated loop?

TWC got away from being a 24/7 weather only loop years ago. WN has stepped up to provide a replacement. Perhaps there is room for both but the demand seems to be stronger to have a 24/7 weather only loop than shows about weather in general.
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 09:19 AM

How can a 7x24 loop of bad weather information be of any use to anyone.  At least TWC would always go to live updates whenever severe weather was occurring.

 

RIght now, on WeatherNation, the forecast for Nashville if for "Chance of Showers", despite a very significant, life-threatening severe weather outbreak expected today.  How is that useful to anyone???  In fact, it downright irresponsible of them.

 

Bring back the weather channel please.  The quality of the information was at least useful there.



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 09:34 AM

How can a 7x24 loop of bad weather information be of any use to anyone. At least TWC would always go to live updates whenever severe weather was occurring.

RIght now, on WeatherNation, the forecast for Nashville if for "Chance of Showers", despite a very significant, life-threatening severe weather outbreak expected today. How is that useful to anyone??? In fact, it downright irresponsible of them.

Bring back the weather channel please. The quality of the information was at least useful there.

I looked a the TWC app for Nashville, all it says is a wind advisory in the info banner. Looking at the hourly forcast it doesn't show thunderstorms until 4PM today. So WN should start doing intense coverage now for something that's not going to occur for hours?

BTW, I checked the NOAA web site and they don't have any watches or warning for Nashville for storms, just wind. I just looked in on WN and they did mention the cold front moving through that area today so they aren't ignoring it.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:01 AM

Well I'm not sure what you're looking at, the current NWS forecast has Nashville in a moderate risk of severe weather and  tornadoes today (http://www.spc.noaa.gov).  The Weather Channel forecast web page has the risk of tornadoes highlighted at the top, and the words "Strong Storms" highlighted in red for this afternoon.   The WxNation page just says "Chance of Showers". 



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:09 AM

The TWC IOS app shows no warning or watches, just wind advisory. The www.noaa.gov web site also shows no warnings or watches. In the text for today it just says "A chance of showers
, then showers and thumderstorms likely after 3PM. Some of the storms could be severe". Sorry but that just sounds like a nothing special forecast at the moment. Nothing that requires anything special at this time.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:06 AM

Three of my local channels have much better local weather coverage than Weather Nation or The Weather Channel.  I do not understand why anyone would rely on a national channel for local weather, especially in a weather-related emergency.

 

As far as the apps go, I have found Accuweather's app on the Android to be better than TWC's app, but for local severe weather, two of my local channels have apps that are better than Accuweather or TWC.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:44 PM

Years ago, I turned out NOAA Weather Radio and learned about a winter storm warning for our area.  They were expecting 6 to 12 inches (or thereabouts) over the next 24 hours.  The local TV stations all mentioned the big winter storm as their lead story, though they varied in how much snow we would get (one might have said 4 to 8 inches, while another might have said 7 to 11, and the like).  I went to The Weather Channel on our Comcast cable system (DirecTV didn't have local weather on TWC at the time), and their Locals on the 8's acknowledged the winter storm warning, but then their forecasts merely had a 40% chance of snow with 1 to 2 inches expected.  Nowhere near what everybody else was forecasting.  We ended up with at least a half foot of snow, probably more.

 

This experience didn't just happen once.  It repeated itself multiple times over time.  In my experience, TWC's forecasts are among the worst out there.  In their early years, TWC didn't do their own forecasts but instead relayed the forecasts issued by the National Weather Service.  Those forecasts were much more reliable than what they put out nowadays.

 

I can't speak for Weather Nation.  For all I know, their forecasts may be worse.  When I check the weather, I always view the NWS forecast first, from weather.gov (I actually have a bookmark set in my web browser that goes straight to the 7-day forecast for my location).  I may look at other weather sources to get a feel for what the other guys think, but the NWS forecast is the one I pay attention to the most.  Experience has taught me this.



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:18 PM

Years ago, I turned out NOAA Weather Radio and learned about a winter storm warning for our area.  They were expecting 6 to 12 inches (or thereabouts) over the next 24 hours.  The local TV stations all mentioned the big winter storm as their lead story, though they varied in how much snow we would get (one might have said 4 to 8 inches, while another might have said 7 to 11, and the like).  I went to The Weather Channel on our Comcast cable system (DirecTV didn't have local weather on TWC at the time), and their Locals on the 8's acknowledged the winter storm warning, but then their forecasts merely had a 40% chance of snow with 1 to 2 inches expected.  Nowhere near what everybody else was forecasting.  We ended up with at least a half foot of snow, probably more.

 

This experience didn't just happen once.  It repeated itself multiple times over time.  In my experience, TWC's forecasts are among the worst out there.  In their early years, TWC didn't do their own forecasts but instead relayed the forecasts issued by the National Weather Service.  Those forecasts were much more reliable than what they put out nowadays.

 

I can't speak for Weather Nation.  For all I know, their forecasts may be worse.  When I check the weather, I always view the NWS forecast first, from weather.gov (I actually have a bookmark set in my web browser that goes straight to the 7-day forecast for my location).  I may look at other weather sources to get a feel for what the other guys think, but the NWS forecast is the one I pay attention to the most.  Experience has taught me this.

 

 

I use TWC iphone app. And is is usually pretty good for "regular" weather. It starts to break down. It always amazes me when a hurricane is bearing down and the TWC app will say 10% chance or rain or some nonsense.

 

They seem to be a bit better on snow....


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 08:46 PM

... TWC got away from being a 24/7 weather only loop years ago. WN has stepped up to provide a replacement. Perhaps there is room for both but the demand seems to be stronger to have a 24/7 weather only loop than shows about weather in general.

WN is not a replacement for the the Weather Channel.  Its more like a bad substitute, akin to replacing a Cadillac with an Escort.  Yea, both are cars but that don't compare.  



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 08:55 PM

Would I like TWC back... sure.  HOWEVER, I'm tired of Comcrap's and NBC's exploitation of consumers and holding us hostage by requesting outrageous rate increases for their channels (i.e. Versus, Comcrap Sports Philly/Houston/Northwest, etc.). I'm so glad that D* is taking this stance, and I'll be disappointed if D* gives in sometime in the future.

Did i miss something, were you exempt from Directs last price increase?  Unfortunately, I would just about dare say that just about all service providers are sharks and would increase prices at a drop of the hat, including your beloved Direct.  Most of my experiences with Comcast have been positive.  Just about like Direct.



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 08:58 PM

How can a 7x24 loop of bad weather information be of any use to anyone.  At least TWC would always go to live updates whenever severe weather was occurring.

 

RIght now, on WeatherNation, the forecast for Nashville if for "Chance of Showers", despite a very significant, life-threatening severe weather outbreak expected today.  How is that useful to anyone???  In fact, it downright irresponsible of them.

 

Bring back the weather channel please.  The quality of the information was at least useful there.

Agree.  I miss the Weather Channel.



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 09:37 PM

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The important thing is that when it does matter, when eyeballs do turn to it, TWC is, whether you like them or hate them, undeniably better.

Less you forget the fact that if WN is to ever hope of having the same studio and broadcasting capabilities, they will have to start charging DirecTV and, who knows, some time from now, they may do the same thing TWC is doing after realizing playing pre-recorded loops isn't economically feasible (because absolutely no one is watching) and having a full studio broadcasting 24/7 is fiscal suicide.


Unless of course you're on the West Coast when they show reality pretty much from when most people get home until wait in the early morning hours.

And no actually the whole point isn't that they don't want to pay anything it's the over paying for what they're getting. Whether nation could charge a few cents they don't have to get the million dollar names that the weather Channel is getting to do the weather. Someone at the weather Channel decided that if he brought in bigger names that would increase viewership. it is not. But they still expect everyone to pay more for.

My biggest issue with them is all of the Crying to Congress and everything else that they've been doing. And I think that's the reason most people here that are really unhappy with time with weather Channel have been expressing their displeasure with them.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 05:57 AM

WN is not a replacement for the the Weather Channel.  Its more like a bad substitute, akin to replacing a Cadillac with an Escort.  Yea, both are cars but that don't compare.  

TWC is more like the MunsterMobile with a broken driveshaft.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 01:29 AM

Agree.  I miss the Weather Channel.

If you miss them there are plenty of other channels with similar reality shows. At least Weather Nation has 24/7 weather programming. I'll take a slightly less polished product which nevertheless is weather programming over reality shows any day.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 09:39 PM

I hope the TWC loyalist don't inundate this thread.  Or being paid to register and critize in this forum just to get their point across.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 10:37 PM

They don't have a point to make. Noise and whining, perhaps, but no real point. 


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Posted 23 February 2014 - 01:14 AM

Obviously they don't but try to explain it to them, and that there life is not in danger. But there consciousness are(more like unconsciousness)


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Posted 23 February 2014 - 02:45 PM

FYI: Watching the "rain delayed" Daytona 500 on Fox ... Fox Sports 1 broke in to say something about a tornado warning being lifted (not sure what they said) so I changed to TWC to see their award eligible coverage of the storm.

TWC was airing "Twist of Fate" ... an episode about the Chicago Blizzard (first aired 6/1/2011).

When weather breaks ... TWC is broken. :)
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Posted 23 February 2014 - 03:26 PM

...their award eligible coverage of the storm.


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Posted 23 February 2014 - 04:20 PM

FYI: Watching the "rain delayed" Daytona 500 on Fox ... Fox Sports 1 broke in to say something about a tornado warning being lifted (not sure what they said) so I changed to TWC to see their award eligible coverage of the storm.

TWC was airing "Twist of Fate" ... an episode about the Chicago Blizzard (first aired 6/1/2011).

When weather breaks ... TWC is broken. :)


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