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Comcast to purchase Time-Warner Cable


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#1 OFFLINE   Mark Holtz

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:16 PM

From Business Insider:

Comcast to purchase Time-Warner Cable

Comcast is set to buy Time Warner Cable in an all-stock deal that values Time Warner at $159 per share, CNBC's David Faber reports on Twitter.

At $159, Comcast would be paying an 18% premium to the stock's closing price. It would value Time Warner Cable at ~$44.4 billion. Comcast is valued at $146.5 billion.

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:35 PM

Ouch, glad I don't use Time Warner for Internet. Comcast is the one that lets other customers connect using your cable modem, plus the Netflix throttling, etc.

 

It's going to be a bit extra painful for ex Insight customers, some of which were in this area. They just dealt with the switchover to Time Warner.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:59 PM

That's me, the guy that just made it through the switch from Insight to TWC. And now Comcast.

This is awful.

Cincinnati Bell has fiber cabinets all over the place in my area. Hopefully they'll pull it down my street soon.

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 10:30 PM

As a current TWC internet customer and former Comcast internet customer I'm sort of happy to see this. At least Comcast has been busy upgrading their networks while TWC's been doing zip,


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 11:02 PM

Doesn't the FCC still need to approve this?

If they get it, they'll have NY and LA, the #1 and 2 markets. Get ready for CSN-NY (SportsNetNY) and CSN-LA (TWCSN).

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:12 AM

If this merger is approved, then what is there to prevent a Dish-DirecTV merger?
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:24 AM

As a current TWC internet customer and former Comcast internet customer I'm sort of happy to see this. At least Comcast has been busy upgrading their networks while TWC's been doing zip,


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Same here;

 

So what does this mean for me, assuming government regulators allow it, TWC's service (and their weird logo) will disappear for Comcast?

 

Or should I prepare myself for a "Comcrap" experience as they're otherwise popularly known?

 

Presently have double play with TWC at ~$60.00/mo. for 12/1 internet which has stayed at this speed seemingly forever combined with their digital voice phone service i just signed up for at ~$15.00/mo. at a 1 year introductory rate + another $5.00/mo. for rental on a eMTA telephone modem. 


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:25 AM

After completed I'm wondering if the new Comcast could be a truly good techincal and economic alternative to satellite?

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:33 AM

If this merger is approved, then what is there to prevent a Dish-DirecTV merger?


Nothing. There's no way they'd be blocked if they allow comcast to buy Time Warner Cable.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:34 AM

After completed I'm wondering if the new Comcast could be a truly good techincal and economic alternative to satellite?


Uh no. It won't change anything really except increase out costs.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:46 AM

If this merger is approved, then what is there to prevent a Dish-DirecTV merger?

Every proposed merger is examined on a case by case basis. Some are approved such as Sirius/XM and other such as Dish/Directv were not.



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:50 AM

If this merger is approved, then what is there to prevent a Dish-DirecTV merger?


Is Comcast merging with Time Warner a reduction in competition? It creates a bigger company which may be able to negotiate better deals but does it reduce competition?

DISH+DirecTV would be a reduction in competition ... especially in areas without cable and fiber where DISH is the only effective competition for DirecTV (and vice versa).


The biggest issue I see with the Comcast TWC merger is the same one that faces Comcast today - they are a content provider. The FCC will need to continue to monitor NBC Universial to make sure that the deals they make with Comcast's competitors (DirecTV, DISH and fiber companies) are as fair as the deals that they make with Comcast and cable systems that compete with DirecTV and DISH.
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 03:42 AM

Is Comcast merging with Time Warner a reduction in competition? It creates a bigger company which may be able to negotiate better deals but does it reduce competition?

DISH+DirecTV would be a reduction in competition ... especially in areas without cable and fiber where DISH is the only effective competition for DirecTV (and vice versa).

 

I'm sure there are areas where only Comcast and TWC compete. If those are the only two cable competitors in an area, that eliminates cable competition. It would be hard to argue that that's not a problem because there's satellite, but two satellite companies couldn't combine in order to compete with a company the size of a Comcast+TWC.

 

Sure, there are places where satellite is the only option. But there are people like me, for whom cable is the only option. Trees prevent satellite, not just for me, but pretty much everyone for blocks in any direction, and my telco doesn't offer TV. There is only one cable company in town. I'm no worse off today than people who can only get satellite would be if Dish and Directv combined.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 03:53 AM

From Variety:

Comcast To Buy All Of Time Warner Cable In $44.2 Bil Deal
Deal to unite the nation's two largest cable operators to be unveiled Thursday

In a surprise twist in the hunt for Time Warner Cable, Comcast Corp. is closing in on a deal to buy its closest cable rival in an all-stock deal valued at $44.2 billion, or about $159 a share.

CNBC first reported news of the pact coming together late Wednesday. A source close to the situation confirmed that the sides are expected to announce the surprise deal on Thursday morning. However, execs from both camps were hammering out the final points on the deal even as midnight approached on the East Coast.

Media watchdog orgs were, not surprisingly, quick to condemn the deal as anti-consumer.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 05:11 AM

"Dear Customer, Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse we are informing you that your Time Warner Cable service has been purchased by Comcast, the nation's leading provider of aggravation. Our new name will be Timeless Comcrap. In the weeks ahead we will be notifying you of your new rates. Have a sparkling day!" :sure:  


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 05:17 AM

If this is allowed to happen, then I would anticipate (and, perhaps, expect) something similar with DirecTV and Dish Network.



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 05:42 AM

Both Marketwatch and AP are stating that "Comcast, Time Warner Cable confirm $45.2 billion deal that would create cable giant", but I do not have a linkable article at this time.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 06:17 AM

And Comcast is the one that lets other customers connect to the Internet using your cable modem. As far as I have heard, you can't turn it off yourself, you have to call them to connect in and do its are you absolved of all responsibility if a media company comes calling with a lawsuit because of a bit torrent share?


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 06:28 AM

I'm sure there are areas where only Comcast and TWC compete. If those are the only two cable competitors in an area, that eliminates cable competition.


There are a lot of ifs that would be needed to make that a problem. It would need to be an area with line of sight problems and two cable companies. Two cable companies is not common. Areas that could have two cable companies are good targets for fiber. I'm not going to say "impossible", but can you tell me how many of TWCs customers can get Comcast?

Sure, there are places where satellite is the only option. But there are people like me, for whom cable is the only option. Trees prevent satellite, not just for me, but pretty much everyone for blocks in any direction, and my telco doesn't offer TV. There is only one cable company in town. I'm no worse off today than people who can only get satellite would be if Dish and Directv combined.


Unless they are redwoods perhaps you just need more creative installers? For your narrow example a DISH-DirecTV merger would do no harm but do no good. The same would apply to the Comcast-TWC merger. You would still have one cable company.
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 07:26 AM

Just what we need, the least consumer friendly company in the world getting bigger. This may run into regulatory problems, especially without Arlen Spector to run interference.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 07:34 AM

Doesn't the FCC still need to approve this?

If they get it, they'll have NY and LA, the #1 and 2 markets. Get ready for CSN-NY (SportsNetNY) and CSN-LA (TWCSN).

They'll have Dallas #5 and many surrounding cities, too.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 07:54 AM

The only areas that would cause the FCC to pause (in my opinion) are the markets that are overlapping with little to no third carrier availability (not including satellite), that could effectively reduce competition and/or monopolize a particular area.

Say, for example, City X is only served by Comcast and TWC, without FIOS or another mitigating "land carrier." The FCC would take a hard look at that market (and other markets like it) and could potentially force Comcast to divest.

In cities or areas where service doesn't overlap, the union probably wouldn't bother the FCC much. Like City Y, for example: it has TWC but Comcast is not present or its service there is limited.

The extent and definition of overlap per market and/or actual reduction in competition, geographically, will probably be the biggest issue.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 08:19 AM

I don't have a data cap with Time Warner, while Comcast is busily rolling out caps with overages.

Cap free fiber is coming to my neighborhood this year. Their price for 100/30 service is $20 more than my 50/5 for the first year, and $30 more after.

I know what I'll be doing.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 08:35 AM

"Dear Customer, Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse we are informing you that your Time Warner Cable service has been purchased by Comcast, the nation's leading provider of aggravation. Our new name will be Timeless Comcrap. In the weeks ahead we will be notifying you of your new rates. Have a sparkling day!" :sure:


Hopefully something good will come out of it!!

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 08:45 AM

As a current TWC internet customer and former Comcast internet customer I'm sort of happy to see this. At least Comcast has been busy upgrading their networks while TWC's been doing zip,


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