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#26 OFFLINE   Dude111


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:53 AM

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 10:40 PM

As of this post, JLTV is still on 366.


Dinah Shore and some of those other programs are kinescoped, as others have said.  Kinescopes were films shot directly off TV monitors, and the cameras were tricked out to eliminate the scan lines -- big, thick vertical bars -- you'd normally get when shooting a TV screen with a standard camera.  The kinescopes -- they were usually called "transcriptions" -- were relatively cheap and easy to make.  For instance, ad agencies routinely made kinescopes of the shows they sponsored.  (That's an omportant source of surviving kinescopes.)  Jackie Gleason routinely recorded his variety shows so he and his staff could critique them the next day, which is why almost all of his non-Honeymooners material still exists.


Speaking of which, the Electronicam system used to film The Honeymooners involved a camera that split the incoming image with a prism.  Half the image went to film, and the other half went to a live TV monitor.  Gleason used it on The Honeymooners because he wanted to see exactly what the cameras were seeing as the film rolled.  In those pre-tape days, Electronicam was the only way to do that.


BTW all TV did not look kinescoped, unless you lived in an area that wasn't tied into the coaxial cable that transmitted network programming live around the country.  Stations in those areas depended on transcriptions.  Even in those cases, locally produced live shows looked just fine.  The real problem was reception.  Between static and ghosts, kinescopes were a minor problem.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 09:48 AM

As of this post, JLTV is still on 366. ...



While the mapping to channel 366 is the same, according to the latest TPN maps JLTV has been relocated from 119 to 103ca (or D12's CONUS beam) tp.23.


Thanks for the rest of the historical info. though.  

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 02:01 AM

Here is a snippet of an NBC Dinah Shore 1958 show that was preserved on videotape (alas, they are rare because

videotape could be erased and used over and over)  But -- with a decent TV and proper - usually rooftop  - antenna,  the

quality was quite good.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 12:39 PM

Yeah, that was the hazard of early TV; videotaped shows that get erased, so the videotape could be used over again. As video tape equipment was so expensive, as were teh tapes. Funny, to say that, as people now use DVDs and they cost less than 50 cents a piece.


So, an example of video tape recycling, is mentioned here:






On 22 Decmber, 1961, WNEW TV ran a live broadcast entitled "Sandy Becker's Christmas Carol". Sandty Becker was a very popular children's programming host in the late 1950s and early 1960s, in New York. At the time, this was considred the very first Christmas sprecial (seems ironic to mention this on a post dedicated to JLTV). The critical reviews were positive and some consider it very creative; qs it was all done with puppets. Sandy Becker did the puppeteering and the voices; on a shoe string budget. In retrospect, it is up there with the 1964 "Rudolph, the Red Nose Reindeer" and the 1963 "Mr. McGoo's Christmas Carol".


Those, like myself, growing up in New York at the time, still remember this broadcast (I was 5 at the time).


A video tape, of this show, was created so it could air again; which it did a year later. But, soon thereafter; it was erased. It was discovered years later when WNEW wanted to celebrate its 40th or 50th anniversary (1968 or 1978); so goes the story.


As for the first video above. No they did not raise enough to reimage the original shows, Though, the pupptes still exist and look like they are in use; the second video.



Here is a snippet of an NBC Dinah Shore 1958 show that was preserved on videotape (alas, they are rare because

videotape could be erased and used over and over)  But -- with a decent TV and proper - usually rooftop  - antenna,  the

quality was quite good.



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