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#1 OFFLINE   Willh

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:04 PM

according to several wrestling sites, Dish has decided to no longer carry WWE on PPV on their lineup. this means this sunday's Elimination Chamber PPV will be seen on other Providers and though WWE.com and their WWE app.

 

in fact here's a report: 

http://www.pwmania.c...re#.UwLoStKLb-Y

 

so it looks like Dish may have pulled the plug, that means no more WWE PPvs on Dish, as Dish feels that the WWE Network could kill all their profits from carrying  the PPv so they decided to be the first provider to sever ties with WWE with Comcast and DirecTV already declaring that they may pull WWE PPvs off their lineup. 

 

WWE Network could kill the entire PPV industry if the Network takes off. and not to mention it too can lead to a revolution to where paid TV services  may change forever 


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 12:19 AM

... this means this sunday's Elimination Chamber PPV will be seen on other Providers and though WWE.com and their WWE app.


Other providers? I seem to remember DirecTV also declining to carry WWE events. When WWE.com offers a flat monthly fee that is below the price providers charge for the satellite/cable PPVs how are the satellite carriers supposed to compete?
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Posted 18 February 2014 - 12:52 AM

WWE Network debuts next Monday. This Sunday's Elimination Chamber will be the last pre-WWE Network PPV. WrestleMania isn't until April, DirecTV usually doesn't have the PPVs in their listing until about 3 weeks out and iNDemand, who handles PPV for the majority of cable providers, doesn't have that month's schedule out yet. We probably won't find out for another month the fate of it with other providers or if WWE will at least implement a price cut on their PPVs. There's no way anyone will still pay around $50 for a PPV when they can get all of them for $9.99 a month, even if you're one of those who just buy the Big 2 (WrestleMania and SummerSlam), the WWE Network will still be cheaper.

On a related note, looking at Dish's site I don't see TNA Wrestling's upcoming PPV on March 9th listed either. One of the articles I saw mentioned that the Royal Rumble didn't show up until 2 days prior on Dish's guide.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 06:44 AM

Other providers? I seem to remember DirecTV also declining to carry WWE events. When WWE.com offers a flat monthly fee that is below the price providers charge for the satellite/cable PPVs how are the satellite carriers supposed to compete?

 

it's real easy the company's I.E. Dish and others can act like baby's and take their ball and go home or offer the service like they use to do. not everyone has highspeed Internet that is fact's and not everyone wants to sit at there desktop or anyother thing watching a stream of a show when you can own it on your TV. just my thoughts Dish grow up and give us customer the WWE PPV!

 

we are the customer and you raise our rates five more dollars I think you owe us in so manying ways.  and who cares what the WWE Network does it not like Dish or any other company said Vince let us back the Network on Sat tv they can go to that man and offer him some backing going on a Tv Channel then do it don't throw a fit and pull our PPV because you want to spend Billions on some wireless company not invest it in WWE it's not his fault. WWE let you make billions off of his vision and you couldn't even stop PPV sharing sites!

 

Now who has the real reason to bitch here not cable and sat companys Mr.McMahon hisself if they wanted the Network they could back the project a long time ago!

 

back then In September 2011, WWE officially announced plans to launch the WWE Network.[1]

 

comcast and directv and Dish all knew that WWE was going to make a Network they could partner up with WWE and make that vision happen!

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dish-network-offering-buy-sprint-25-5b-deal-105306896--finance.html;_ylt=A0SO8oc8WANTU3cAAUZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzcTYwNWF1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1FCQUNLMl8x


Edited by dish556, 18 February 2014 - 06:56 AM.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:23 AM

it's real easy the company's I.E. Dish and others can act like baby's and take their ball and go home or offer the service like they use to do. not everyone has highspeed Internet that is fact's and not everyone wants to sit at there desktop or anyother thing watching a stream of a show when you can own it on your TV. just my thoughts Dish grow up and give us customer the WWE PPV!

 

we are the customer and you raise our rates five more dollars I think you owe us in so manying ways.  and who cares what the WWE Network does it not like Dish or any other company said Vince let us back the Network on Sat tv they can go to that man and offer him some backing going on a Tv Channel then do it don't throw a fit and pull our PPV because you want to spend Billions on some wireless company not invest it in WWE it's not his fault. WWE let you make billions off of his vision and you couldn't even stop PPV sharing sites!

 

Now who has the real reason to bitch here not cable and sat companys Mr.McMahon hisself if they wanted the Network they could back the project a long time ago!

 

back then In September 2011, WWE officially announced plans to launch the WWE Network.[1]

 

comcast and directv and Dish all knew that WWE was going to make a Network they could partner up with WWE and make that vision happen!

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dish-network-offering-buy-sprint-25-5b-deal-105306896--finance.html;_ylt=A0SO8oc8WANTU3cAAUZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzcTYwNWF1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1FCQUNLMl8x

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:38 AM

It's fake anyway.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 11:12 AM

it's real easy the company's I.E. Dish and others can act like baby's and take their ball and go home or offer the service like they use to do. not everyone has highspeed Internet that is fact's and not everyone wants to sit at there desktop or anyother thing watching a stream of a show when you can own it on your TV. just my thoughts Dish grow up and give us customer the WWE PPV!

we are the customer and you raise our rates five more dollars I think you owe us in so manying ways. and who cares what the WWE Network does it not like Dish or any other company said Vince let us back the Network on Sat tv they can go to that man and offer him some backing going on a Tv Channel then do it don't throw a fit and pull our PPV because you want to spend Billions on some wireless company not invest it in WWE it's not his fault. WWE let you make billions off of his vision and you couldn't even stop PPV sharing sites!

Now who has the real reason to bitch here not cable and sat companys Mr.McMahon hisself if they wanted the Network they could back the project a long time ago!

back then In September 2011, WWE officially announced plans to launch the WWE Network.[1]

comcast and directv and Dish all knew that WWE was going to make a Network they could partner up with WWE and make that vision happen!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dish-network-offering-buy-sprint-25-5b-deal-105306896--finance.html;_ylt=A0SO8oc8WANTU3cAAUZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzcTYwNWF1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNQRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1FCQUNLMl8x


The reason that network didn't get off the ground is no one would carry it at the pricing and package wwe wanted.

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 02:37 PM

really I don't see them go after UFC for show 10 UFC PPV for 9.99 with there fight pass. but since it the wrestling crowd let screw them over right!


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 04:56 PM

WWE is bringing this on themselves. They are taking the profit out of carriage for DISH and DirecTV. That is not being a good partner!
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Posted 18 February 2014 - 05:51 PM

Well Dish people at least you still have Glenn Beck. :)

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 06:01 PM

http://www.cablefax....-PPV_61761.html

As for WWE, it has no intention to cut ties with cable: “WWE will continue to make our pay-per-view programming available to cable and satellite providers” and “hopes to continue to be in business with our PPV distributors, ultimately giving fans a choice between traditional PPV and a WWE Network,” Michelle Wilson, chief revenue and marketing officer, told us. Wilson was promoted as part of WWE’s recent senior leadership restructuring. WWE’s flagship programs, “Monday Night Raw” and “SmackDown,” will continue to be fully distributed on cable reaching more than 100 million homes, Wilson said. “We see these two flagship programs as very important platforms to drive interest in WWE Network.” WWE currently has no plans to move either show to WWE Network. However, it will air replays of both shows on WWE Network within an agreed to window, Wilson said. The streaming network will have its own groundbreaking programming including “WWE Monday Night War” and “WWE Countdown,” pre- and post-shows for “Monday Night Raw” and “SmackDown,” and a live studio show launching this summer, according to Wilson.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 06:10 PM

WWE’s flagship programs, “Monday Night Raw” and “SmackDown,” will continue to be fully distributed on cable reaching more than 100 million homes, Wilson said. “We see these two flagship programs as very important platforms to drive interest in WWE Network.” WWE currently has no plans to move either show to WWE Network.

The exclusive negotiating window with NBCU expired a few days ago with no deal, now they are shopping them around to other networks:
http://variety.com/2...res-1201110680/

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 07:14 PM

The exclusive negotiating window with NBCU expired a few days ago with no deal, now they are shopping them around to other networks:
http://variety.com/2...res-1201110680/


Gee wonder why they couldn't come to an agreement.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 06:01 AM

Gee wonder why they couldn't come to an agreement.

 

all this is they might be move the show to a new network that is it. NBCU and Comcast can't come to terms with WWE but they get a shot to match anyone offer so USA Network and SYFY isn't out of the game yet.

 

Come on wrestling Fans come out and Demand that Dish carry this. if all of us Wrestling Fans Cut our Cord then that will speak louder then words.



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 06:22 AM

all this is they might be move the show to a new network that is it. NBCU and Comcast can't come to terms with WWE but they get a shot to match anyone offer so USA Network and SYFY isn't out of the game yet.

 

Come on wrestling Fans come out and Demand that Dish carry this. if all of us Wrestling Fans Cut our Cord then that will speak louder then words.

So you are suggesting that wrastling fans "cut the cord" because Dish is going to stop carrying WWE PPV shows to try and force Dish to carry WWE PPV shows which then you wouldn't be able to see because you "cut the cord". 



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 07:01 AM

all this is they might be move the show to a new network that is it. NBCU and Comcast can't come to terms with WWE but they get a shot to match anyone offer so USA Network and SYFY isn't out of the game yet.

 

Come on wrestling Fans come out and Demand that Dish carry this. if all of us Wrestling Fans Cut our Cord then that will speak louder then words.

I'm a wrestling fan, but you're wrong here. PPV buys aren't significant enough to really matter. Look at 2013 and you will see how awful it's been... Mania couldn't even crack 750,000 and that's the biggest event. 750k over EVERY North American provider is sad... so what's Dish's number? I'd guess under 10k easy. Last year the Elimination Chamber had around 181,000 buys over every North American provider... Probably 1,000 for Dish, if that many. It won't hurt Dish dropping PPV.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:26 AM

So you are suggesting that wrastling fans "cut the cord" because Dish is going to stop carrying WWE PPV shows to try and force Dish to carry WWE PPV shows which then you wouldn't be able to see because you "cut the cord". 

 

does it matter because there already been people that did switch from paid TV to free tv.

 

 

http://variety.com/2...ear-1200574763/



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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:33 AM

I'm a wrestling fan, but you're wrong here. PPV buys aren't significant enough to really matter. Look at 2013 and you will see how awful it's been... Mania couldn't even crack 750,000 and that's the biggest event. 750k over EVERY North American provider is sad... so what's Dish's number? I'd guess under 10k easy. Last year the Elimination Chamber had around 181,000 buys over every North American provider... Probably 1,000 for Dish, if that many. It won't hurt Dish dropping PPV.

 

 

but what right do they have dictate what we can watch and can't watch are they paying our bills or are we paying them?


Edited by dish556, 19 February 2014 - 08:34 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:13 AM

but what right do they have dictate what we can watch and can't watch are they paying our bills or are we paying them?

Basically the right they have is to make decisions regarding their business that they feel make the most sense financially for their bottom line. You as a customer have the right to either do business or not do business with them based on whether you feel their product is worth it for you. You can let them know your opinion regarding their product and they'll weigh that input along with all the rest they get from other customers and more importantly (to them) the input they get from their accountants, lawyers, board members and CEO.




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Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:37 AM

Basically the right they have is to make decisions regarding their business that they feel make the most sense financially for their bottom line. You as a customer have the right to either do business or not do business with them based on whether you feel their product is worth it for you. You can let them know your opinion regarding their product and they'll weigh that input along with all the rest they get from other customers and more importantly (to them) the input they get from their accountants, lawyers, board members and CEO.

Well I guess they are doing something Wrong losing 78k customer's and with this new five dollars charge and losing STO Network isn't helping their case. so Maybe Board Member's better rethink the company bottom line of thinking. and piss off Wrestling fans isn't a smart move. just giving them a head up before Sunday happens just think your call center will be flood with piss off fans on sunday repet dialing telling were you can stick your company if you don't show this PPV.


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