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#1 OFFLINE   MrD1sturbed

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 12:09 PM

So today I officially hit my bandwidth cap with Comcast due to watching OnDemand content from DirecTV. It's probably ignorance on my part but I had no idea that watching OnDemand content downloaded the entire HD episode of the show I was watching, and in my case seasons (watched all of Game of Thrones and season 1 & 2 of Dexter this month). Why is it that DTV doesn't just stream this content like every other provider or service does? With the internet age literred with bandwidth caps and overage fees theres got to be another way! I am seriously considering switching to Xfinity TV in order to indulge in my OnDemand watching without fear of killing my bandwidth cap. Anyone else run into this situation?



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Posted 24 February 2014 - 12:21 PM

Streaming wouldn't help your case much as you would still be receiving all of that data.  The only thing that would help you is D* making SD versions of the shows available to not use as much data.  Personally, I stay with DSL because of no bandwidth caps and I hope D* keeps the premium channel VOD as is.



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Posted 24 February 2014 - 12:33 PM

Down Load or Stream MB's are MB's and everything counts( that's not COMCAST) - What I did was upgrade my Comcast internet only to Blast / digital tv 50/10 - activated my Xbox 360 and using the Xfinity App I can find most everything and get HBO -HD and such and Some How :) that doesn't seam to effect my Bandwidth usage ,HUM!

 

Good thing is it's a sort month and it will reset soon.


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 12:46 PM

Personally, I stay with DSL because of no bandwidth caps...

Bandwidth caps are coming to DSL as well.

 

http://www.engadget....e-overage-fees/


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 01:22 PM

Bandwidth caps are coming to DSL as well.

 

http://www.engadget....e-overage-fees/

AT&T doesn't enforce it.


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 03:11 PM

My provider doesn't yet have cap limits.  Verizon FIOS in the Dallas area.


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 03:20 PM

So today I officially hit my bandwidth cap with Comcast due to watching OnDemand content from DirecTV. It's probably ignorance on my part but I had no idea that watching OnDemand content downloaded the entire HD episode of the show I was watching, and in my case seasons (watched all of Game of Thrones and season 1 & 2 of Dexter this month). Why is it that DTV doesn't just stream this content like every other provider or service does? With the internet age literred with bandwidth caps and overage fees theres got to be another way! I am seriously considering switching to Xfinity TV in order to indulge in my OnDemand watching without fear of killing my bandwidth cap. Anyone else run into this situation?

 

In other words, Comcast is playing you like a fiddle. You will get their TV because their bandwidth limits on their internet. Worked like a charm.

 

A big reason why I will not go back to Comcast for internet.


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 04:10 PM

They do stream, although it is not nearly as elegant as Netflix or Apple TV. Use the "watch now" rather than download and you will get a less bandwidth intensive version.
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Posted 24 February 2014 - 04:43 PM

AT&T doesn't enforce it.

Oddly enough, neither does Comcast.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 04:44 PM

I watch a lot of DirecTV on demand, plus a lot of Netflix.

 

15MB down / 1MB up

 

$34.99 per month

 

I have Verizon DSL and NO PROBLEMS.

 

(My router shows over 250GB of usage already this month and its only the 24th.)


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 04:52 PM

Why is it that DTV doesn't just stream this content like every other provider or service does?

Because they don't have the satellite bandwidth required to send demand content to their base of 20 million US households. Your local cable operator gets away with it because they have a MUCH smaller customer base (perhaps less than 1/1000th) and a routed fiber connection. Its all DIRECTV can do to send the 500 or so live channels that they send now.

If you need demand content and can't figure out how to effectively simulate it with a DVR, satellite TV is NOT for you. It isn't an indictment of you or satellite TV, its just how things are.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 07:12 PM

Because they don't have the satellite bandwidth required to send demand content to their base of 20 million US households. Your local cable operator gets away with it because they have a MUCH smaller customer base (perhaps less than 1/1000th) and a routed fiber connection. Its all DIRECTV can do to send the 500 or so live channels that they send now.If you need demand content and can't figure out how to effectively simulate it with a DVR, satellite TV is NOT for you. It isn't an indictment of you or satellite TV, its just how things are.


The local cable companies use their internet to send on demand. They just don't count it against your caps. But we know no one would be that conniving, would they?
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Posted 24 February 2014 - 07:13 PM

They do stream, although it is not nearly as elegant as Netflix or Apple TV. Use the "watch now" rather than download and you will get a less bandwidth intensive version.


That is not streaming. That is just adjusting the download size to your internet speed. It still copies it to your drive, something "elegant" that streaming doesn't do.
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Posted 24 February 2014 - 07:40 PM

That is not streaming. That is just adjusting the download size to your internet speed. It still copies it to your drive, something "elegant" that streaming doesn't do.


My post was attempting to be helpful, was yours?
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Posted 24 February 2014 - 08:04 PM

My post was attempting to be helpful, was yours?

Well, he was trying to correct your "boo-boo" DirecTV does not stream, even the "watch now" option is a download


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:42 AM

That is not streaming. That is just adjusting the download size to your internet speed. It still copies it to your drive, something "elegant" that streaming doesn't do.

 

Maybe Directv should levy a complaint to the FCC and FTC, especially given the current TWC/Comcast merger.  Directv could use this merger to highlight to the public and government the anti-competitive actions of Comcast.



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:58 PM

Maybe Directv should levy a complaint to the FCC and FTC, especially given the current TWC/Comcast merger.  Directv could use this merger to highlight to the public and government the anti-competitive actions of Comcast.

 

It seems the FCC doesn't care about any of this anymore.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:18 PM

Bandwidth caps are coming to DSL as well.

 

http://www.engadget....e-overage-fees/

 

That article is from two years ago.  I have CenturyLink DSL, and have had it for at least 4-5 years.  Unlimited bandwidth.  No caps whatsoever.  No plans to cap.  Sounds like some who have ATT DSL that the caps have not been enforced. 

 

Bandwidth caps haven't come at all to this DSL subscriber two years after this article was written.



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:25 PM

If you're using OnDemand for regular network shows on a regular basis, use your DVR instead. Same for HBO and premium stuff. Save OnDemand fur those odd things you miss or want to sample before setting up a series link. Saves your bandwidth.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:23 PM

It seems the FCC doesn't care about any of this anymore.

 

Pretty much. The head of the FCC is a former cable lobbyist which is bad news for us the consumers. 


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