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#176 OFFLINE   Wilf

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 06:31 AM

For me, watching "TV" without commercials and and paying more, is not an issue - I am fine with that. I feel fortunate in that (pseudo) sports and the newest, hottest movie are not items I have to watch. However, for the industry, the real issues are not old farts like me, it is the younger folks that mainly watch on their iPads and smartphones, and if they can't buy it in a convenient way - without bundles - they know how to easily "get it" without paying.


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 06:40 AM

People complain when their cable/satellite bill goes up and say they are going to "cut the cord" to save money...  The point to me is that IF enough people actually did that, then the prices would go up on those streaming services and they would be right back where they want.

 

Consider what we talk about in terms of picking channels vs picking tiers/packages... and people complain they only want to pay for what they watch... but then those before us set the trend by wanting discounted tiers instead of individual channels.

 

One day, if streaming is chosen because it is "cheaper" than satellite... IF satellite is driven out of business, then streaming will be the only game in town and we'll be back to higher prices on everything again and people will be dumbfounded as to how it happened and will forget that they actively chose that path.

I understand what you're saying.  But imagine if 75% of those who "cut the cord" put up an antenna and get at least the big 4 networks.  We could see a resurgence in free TV.  Right now, I don't need a streaming service to be content with my viewing options.  My DVR is filling up with shows I haven't found time to get around to yet, and it's OTA-only.  I'm getting most of my movies from the library, and a rare few from RedBox.

 

For people who are somewhat "content neutral", pay TV rarely makes sense.  If you have a "must-have" show or two, streaming rounds out the package.

 

What could you do with an extra $800-1200/year, after taxes?



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Posted 01 April 2014 - 09:59 AM

And if enough people will pay to avoid them, it becomes cost-effective to charge $2.99/episode for commercial-free viewing.


Yikes! It better be much less than that! Watching just one show a day that way would cost ~ $90/month or about twice what we pay Dish. And that's assuming the current $14.99/month internet plan is good enough for streaming. (And I don't think it is - but the next step in Internet prices around here seems to be around $40 to $50.)

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 10:30 AM

By the way, our local library is 5 miles away and would take a special trip. According to this site:

http://commutesoluti...ernal/calc.html

Making 1 trip a week to the library would add up to over $600/year in direct and indirect driving costs. (I zeroed out several of their costs and reduced others - their default estimate was higher.)

So, I'm all for libraries but using them routinely is not necessarily a big money saver (let alone a time saver) for many people. They probably work well if you're in a city and can walk to them.

There are some closer Redboxes and cost of the Blu-Ray rental might be offset by the reduced distance. I've never actually tried a Redbox because there's always people already using it and I never want to stand in line. I might give it whirl someday.


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 02:39 PM

Meanwhile... this happened:

 

ESPN and Disney/ABC Television Group Launch WATCH Authenticated Products to DISH Customers

 

Live Linear Channel Streams and On Demand Content from WATCH ABC, WATCH ABC Family, WATCH Disney Channel, WATCH Disney XD and WatchESPN Now Available to DISH Video Subscribers at Home and On-the-Go via Multiple Devices

 

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. & BURBANK, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- In the weeks immediately following the announcement of their groundbreaking, multi-year distribution deal, DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ:DISH) and The Walt Disney Company (NYSE:DIS) today announced the availability of WATCH ABC, WATCH ABC Family, WATCH Disney Channel, WATCH Disney XD and WatchESPN, enabling DISH's 14 million video subscribers to access live and on-demand news, entertainment and sports programming on computers, smartphones, tablets, gaming consoles and connected devices. Access to WATCH Disney Junior as well as authenticated services from SEC ESPN Network and Longhorn Network will launch later this year.

 

DISH customers can now conveniently watch live programming from ABC Family, Disney Channel and Disney XD as well as live network streams of ABC, which are currently available in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Houston, Fresno, Philadelphia and Raleigh-Durham. Additionally, live events and programming from ESPN networks - including ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3, ESPNU, ESPNEWS and ESPN Deportes - are now accessible. ESPN Goal Line and ESPN Buzzer Beater will also be available on WatchESPN when those channels are in season. Video subscribers will need to log in with their DISH online IDs and passwords to access all services.

 

In addition to live streaming, DISH video subscribers can watch the most current episodes of ABC and ABC Family original series the day after they air online at ABC.com and ABCFamily.com or on smartphones and tablets via the WATCH ABC and WATCH ABC Family apps, which are available free to download in the App Store, Google Play Store, Amazon Appstore and Windows Store. WATCH ABC is also accessible on Apple TV.

 

DISH customers can access live and popular on-demand programming from Disney Channel and Disney XD online at WATCHDisneyChannel.com and WATCHDisneyXD.com. The WATCH Disney Channel and WATCH Disney XD apps are free to download in the App Store and Amazon Appstore. The networks are also accessible on Apple TV and Roku.

 

For WatchESPN, DISH video subscribers can visit WatchESPN.com on their computers for live access to ESPN networks. Customers with a supported smartphone or tablet can also download the free WatchESPN app by visiting the App Store, Google Play Store, Amazon Appstore or Windows Store. The app features access to live content and on-demand video clips. WatchESPN live programming and on-demand clips are also available on Xbox 360, Xbox One, Apple TV and Roku.

 

About DISH

DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH), through its subsidiary DISH Network L.L.C., provides approximately 14.057 million satellite TV customers, as of Dec. 31, 2013, with the highest quality programming and technology with the most choices at the best value. Subscribers enjoy a high definition line-up with more than 200 national HD channels, the most international channels, and award-winning HD and DVR technology. DISH Network Corporation is a Fortune 200 company. Visit www.dish.com.

 

About The Walt Disney Company

The Walt Disney Company, together with its subsidiaries and affiliates, is a leading diversified international entertainment and media enterprise with five business segments: media networks, parks and resorts, studio entertainment, consumer products and interactive. Disney is a Dow 30 company and had annual revenues of $45 billion in its Fiscal Year 2013.


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 10:37 PM

Awesome.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 10:56 PM

FYI... I checked, and all the apps are functioning as described in the press release.  I went ahead and downloaded the Disney Jr app even though that one doesn't work yet.  I'm guessing we will not get access to that app until the channel itself launches on Dish.


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 11:43 PM

I did the same thing tonight. Disney and Disney XD work fine now on the Roku LT. Thanks Dish & Disney!



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 04:16 AM

Making 1 trip a week to the library would add up to over $600/year in direct and indirect driving costs. (I zeroed out several of their costs and reduced others - their default estimate was higher.)

So, I'm all for libraries but using them routinely is not necessarily a big money saver (let alone a time saver) for many people. They probably work well if you're in a city and can walk to them.

 

For me, libraries are a $0 extra cost because I take my children there for programming at least once a week.  So I can pick up movies while they're listening to story time, doing LEGO or playing chess.  I've estimated that I take out somewhere between $10,000-$20,000 a year in materials between my children and myself.  Most of that is not video material.

 

I drive within 2 blocks of the library on a very frequent basis, so I can combine errands which reduces the cost of dropping in to pick up a reserved item.

 

Your statement about a single $3 show per day being more expensive than Dish gets right to the point.  That's what Amazon or iTunes charges now for a single HD show.  But it is commercial free.  Commercials really do pay the bills, much as viewers don't like them.  I don't see the single episode price dropping significantly.  What makes it work is that if you only have 1-2 shows that you must have that aren't on broadcast, it's cheaper to pay for those episodes than Dish service.  It also reinforces the point Stewart keeps hammering (which I don't disagree with, by the way) that the end of cable/satellite service would not necessarily save viewers money.  Viewing habits would have to change, as well.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 08:50 AM

It time for direc get off their butt and adding some more hd channesl and we want the same as dish.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 09:22 AM

Your statement about a single $3 show per day being more expensive than Dish gets right to the point. That's what Amazon or iTunes charges now for a single HD show. But it is commercial free. Commercials really do pay the bills, much as viewers don't like them. I don't see the single episode price dropping significantly. What makes it work is that if you only have 1-2 shows that you must have that aren't on broadcast, it's cheaper to pay for those episodes than Dish service.


I just don't get this at all. I just checked a couple of shows on Amazon and yes indeed they sell for $2.99 per episode. But then again, the same show was available for less than half that on Blu-ray. And a quick check of the used Blu-Ray prices on Amazon seems to indicate that you can watch it on Blu-Ray for maybe 20-30 cents per episode if you only want to watch them once or twice and then resell them. Or you could give them to a friend or donate them to your library. I just don't understand the $3 download thing. Even 2 shows ends up being half the Dish bill (not including the internet fees) for just 2 shows.

I can understand how the ~ $1.40/episode and keep forever or $0.30/episode and keep for awhile model of Blu-Rays are reasonable, but I just don't understand $3/episode.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 09:47 AM

Where do I get the APPS for Disney et all?


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:08 PM

When was the last time you went to the movie theater and halfway through your feature, they broke to commercial?

 

It's simply a matter of what you're willing to pay to not put up with commercials.  And if enough people will pay to avoid them, it becomes cost-effective to charge $2.99/episode for commercial-free viewing.

 

A movie at the movie theater is a pay per view and the commercials are at the beginning, not in the middle.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:57 PM

With the Roku, I went to the Channels store and added Disney and Disney XD. Went to the channel, the info on the screen walks you through what you need to do. To register you use a computer and go to the Disney site. It took me all of 5 minutes. It is nice to have both channels now on the Roku. By the way, I did the same from ESPN. Too bad the Roku doesn't have ABC and ABC Family as far I can tell. I do have NBC, CBS, PBS, and FOX on there.



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:14 PM

With the Roku, I went to the Channels store and added Disney and Disney XD. Went to the channel, the info on the screen walks you through what you need to do. To register you use a computer and go to the Disney site. It took me all of 5 minutes. It is nice to have both channels now on the Roku. By the way, I did the same from ESPN. Too bad the Roku doesn't have ABC and ABC Family as far I can tell. I do have NBC, CBS, PBS, and FOX on there.


Perhaps you can explain the benefit of a Roku or similar device when you already have a Dish subscription and hardware. I can see the value when Dish releases their Internet only option but in the meantime, wouldn't it make more sense just to us the Dish hardware?


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:26 PM

Not if it's a secondary tv that's hardly used and he doesn't want to spend the money on a box there.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 02:37 PM

Not if it's a secondary tv that's hardly used and he doesn't want to spend the money on a box there.

Plus the Watch apps are a lot more than just live streams of the channels you get on TV. ESPN3 has exclusive games that don't air on regular TV, Watch Disney Channel and Disney XD frequently have new episodes available on demand before they air on TV.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 03:31 PM

Disney Jr uplinked ... NOT AVAILABLE ... Channel 168.
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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:33 PM

The Roku is an amazing box. I spend enough with Dish, so I watch what I get for free with the Roku. The Roku LT was $50 online from Amazon. I have 312 different channel services in the menu and most have many sub channels. Probably all together well over 1, 000 channels I would guess. There is everything from International programming like France 24, RT and RT Documentry, BBC World, CNN International, and tons more. There are dozens of movie channels, as well as TV services that run old shows and movies. I am a sci fi fan from the 50s & 60s and I have seen many old flicks I have not seen before. There are dozens of PI channels, universary channels, streaming news channels nationwide. Lot of sports too, for those who enjoy that. A really fun box. Netflix, Hulu, WB Streaming, etc are there. We get Epix with Dish, well Epix is on Roku too. One nice thing having the Roku box, it is all available on demand. I can watch the programming when I want to. I only have the Dish 211K receiver that On Demand is not available.  Oh yes, some channels like Disney, HBO, ESPN, Epix, you have to sub to the channel on Cable or Dish to get the On Demand feature, but most you just add. You can easily do a Google search of "Roku". Go on their site and check out the channel store. It is amazing what is there and how much materal is added weekly. The Roku 3 that is HDMI only (HD) also has You Tube. The other boxes do not as yet. There are also private channels you can search for. Lots of fun. With Dish, it is a real nice addition.



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Posted 06 April 2014 - 08:53 PM

By the by...  I also checked out authorizing my Apple TV last night to the Disney/ESPN services.

 

As with the iOS apps, all worked fine except for Disney Jr of course.

 

What was weird was during the "we will now connect to your provider to authenticate" phase... I was never asked for my login...  so the authentication was different on AppleTV than it was on the iOS apps.  Strange.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 03:34 PM

 

“Frozen” continues to sizzle for Walt Disney Co. (DIS:US), where quarterly profit rose 27 percent as kids snapped up DVDs and merchandise tied to the animated mega-hit.

 

Disney, the world’s largest entertainment company, reported second-quarter net income of $1.92 billion, or $1.08 a share, beating the 95-cent average (DIS:US) of 25 analysts’ estimates. Sales grew to $11.6 billion, the company said today in a statement (DIS:US), exceeding projections of $11.2 billion.

 

http://www.businessw...me-video-charts

 

 

Gives ya' a nice warm fuzzy about paying higher rates doesn't it?


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 06:05 PM

http://www.businessw...me-video-charts

 

 

Gives ya' a nice warm fuzzy about paying higher rates doesn't it?

 

Not sure what one has to do with another.

 

If you have a good year and earn more money than last year... do you offer to give money back to your employer because you feel that you "made enough" already?


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Posted 07 May 2014 - 12:46 AM

Update, You Tube is now available on other Roku units including the LT.



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:15 AM

Not to defend Di$ney, but they also have to hedge against the next flop.



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Posted 18 January 2015 - 03:52 PM

Wanna know where that rate hike went?

Blockbuster bonus for Disney CEO
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Iger's pay package was up 27 per cent from 2013, when he received $US34.3 million ($A41.69 million) in compensation. The change came in the form of a larger bonus: $US22.8 million ($A27.71 million), up 68 per cent from the year before.


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