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#1 ONLINE   lparsons21

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 07:27 AM

Thanks to Coolman302003, in another thread for giving a break down of the pricing:

 

"-If you still decide that you want to keep some premium channels after 3 months you certainly can do that, and the regular pricing is as follows:

Any single premium (except HBO) $13.99 mo.
HBO only $17.99 mo.
2 Premiums (no HBO) $25 mo.
2 Premiums (with HBO) $30 mo.
3 Premiums (no HBO) $35 mo.
3 Premiums (with HBO) $40 mo.
4 Premiums (no HBO) $43 mo.
4 Premiums (with HBO) $48 mo.
All 5 Premiums $55 mo."
 
but looking at that it seems odd that any multi-premium packages are $5 more per month if they include HBO, when the the price difference between HBO and the others is only $4.
 
And just where on D*'s site do you find that info?  
 

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 01:13 PM

I didn't see any movies packages.  it looks like HBO IS $17.99 and all others are $13.99

 

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 01:38 PM

That's the problem I've seen.  the only way to get the packaged deals is to not be subscribing to them, or not hacking Premiere.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 03:17 AM

Correct the Watch More Save More discount on multiple premiums only applies when they are added to all base programming packages except Premier because all 5 are already included. I don't think the information is actually on the website anymore, I simply knew the packaged rates prior and added $1 to each of them and asked Satelliteracer to confirm if it was all correct. This was when the new price increase went into effect last month. He confirmed my pricing being correct in this post.

 

The only way I used to find the information previously was to start to build a new customer package on the website and you could click a [?] beside Watch More Save More which would state the following: 

Order HBO for $17.99 per mo. or Starz, Showtime, Cinemax or Sports Pack for the regular price of $12.99 per mo. and get your second premium channel for only $11.01 per mo., your third for $10 per mo., your fourth for $8 per mo., and your fifth for $7 per mo. (Please note: HBO cannot be discounted). 
 
However, that pricing was before the price increase of $1 per month went into effect for all premiums except HBO. Now when you go to that section and click the [?] it doesn't spell it out individually as it did previously currently it only states: Watch More Save More screenshot.png
The more premium channels (HBO, Starz, Showtime, Cinemax, and Sports Pack) you add to your package, the more you save. Save up to $18.95/month off the regular price when you add all five premium channels.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 07:52 AM

Thanks.

 

Yes the page used to be a PITA to find and I guess now it is gone altogether.  :(  Dish has it right on the programming page at mydish.com for the account.  Laid out efficiently and easily noticed.

 

Even with the increases, I still can't figure out why the difference between HBO+whatever is $5 difference when the full retail difference between HBO and others is only $4.  Yeah, I know it is only a buck, but those bucks keep adding up every year.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 08:22 AM

 

Thanks to Coolman302003, in another thread for giving a break down of the pricing:

 

"-If you still decide that you want to keep some premium channels after 3 months you certainly can do that, and the regular pricing is as follows:

Any single premium (except HBO) $13.99 mo.
HBO only $17.99 mo.
2 Premiums (no HBO) $25 mo.
2 Premiums (with HBO) $30 mo.
3 Premiums (no HBO) $35 mo.
3 Premiums (with HBO) $40 mo.
4 Premiums (no HBO) $43 mo.
4 Premiums (with HBO) $48 mo.
All 5 Premiums $55 mo."
 
but looking at that it seems odd that any multi-premium packages are $5 more per month if they include HBO, when the the price difference between HBO and the others is only $4.
 
And just where on D*'s site do you find that info?  

 

 

Actually no difference than all of 2013 for the multipicks.

 

That's because the price increase this year was $1 for the first non HBO premium.  So prior to Feb 6th the amount was $12.99 for non HBO and $17.99 for HBO  -  a $5 difference.

 

By raising the price by $1 on non HBO, if you are comparing a single non  HBO to a HBO, the difference is now $4.   Prior to Feb 6th, a pick two without HBO was $24 and a pick two with HBO was $29.00 - a difference of $5.00.

 

For any combo with HBO that additional dollar increase on Starz or Showtime or Sports Pack or Cinemax had to be carried over to the first non HBO in an HBO combo as well.  Thus, that new price went from $29 to $30.  So we're back to a $5 delta with $25 vs $30.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 08:26 AM

Thanks for the explanation.  I didn't remember the pre-raised fee pricing.

 

I'll be finishing up my 1st 3 months after return and will be calling to make some changes or get talked into some 'new deal' at that time.  Currently I'm at the Premier level but not sure I'll keep it there.

 

Without any kind of addt'l discounts, most likely will switch to Xtra and 3 Premiums (HBO,SHO,Sports) and kick Max in and out as some series show up.  Note Starz is virtually not on the radar at all.


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 10:59 AM

Thanks for the explanation.  I didn't remember the pre-raised fee pricing.

 

I'll be finishing up my 1st 3 months after return and will be calling to make some changes or get talked into some 'new deal' at that time.  Currently I'm at the Premier level but not sure I'll keep it there.

 

Without any kind of addt'l discounts, most likely will switch to Xtra and 3 Premiums (HBO,SHO,Sports) and kick Max in and out as some series show up.  Note Starz is virtually not on the radar at all.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 11:25 AM

FYI, I add and drop premiums depending on original content. Recently called to drop Showtime, while keeping the other 3, and they offered me $20 off/month for 6 months to keep it. I took it.


 

 


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 11:33 AM

Frankly to me, Starz has no value at all.  Their movie selection is poor and I've not actually found any of their original series to be good enough to want to pay for, though I do like Black Sails.  It just isn't good enough to want to pay for.  When I was with Dish, Epix was like that.  Some great blockbusters before others got them, but not many.  And the incessant repeats which reminded me of Voom's MonstersHD towards the end of their run.

 

And Jason, thanks for the info.  I suspect that I will be offered some sort of discount to keep Premier and if it is good enough I may very well take it.


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 11:42 AM

I like Black Sails enough, and enjoy Davinci's Demons. If they dont come up with more stuff that will just be gaps in the year I dont sub. HBO has the hooks in me all year around and Cinemax and Showtime have some good stuff coming. I was sad to see Spartacus and Magic City go.

 

I really only use my Directv service as a backup now for recordings off local channels and stuff like FX, because I get most of that on my TiVo or streaming. They do have the lock on my $$$ with HBO, etc... series and ESPN/FS1. Once my contract is up and rebates expire, my service will be as basic as possible with premiums added on most of the year. When Fball kicks in, Ill add ESPN, but that will only be for 4 months out of the year.


 

 


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 11:47 AM

I keep HBO/SHO on all the time as I like the boxing on both and the HBO series I like seem to come back to back over the year.  I keep sports pack because I like the up and comer boxing matches shown on lesser sports stations, some real interesting fights with a good mixture of real stinkers1

 

Max for Strikeback and Banshee, otherwise it isn't all that interesting to me.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 11:44 PM

Just wanted to update this thread to mention that DIRECTV has finally added a chart to their site explaining the pricing of the multiple premium packages. 

 

In addition, I've had a chart myself listed in my profile and in my signature for a while now. 

Banner located on the premium channel pages Multiple Premiums.PNG Multiple Premiums2.PNG

 

 

Although when you click Learn More on this page, the popup overlay is not working properly http://www.directv.c...emiums/overview

However, it works fine on the other specific premium channel pages:

http://www.directv.com/premiums/hbo

http://www.directv.com/premiums/starz

http://www.directv.c...remiums/cinemax

http://www.directv.c...emiums/showtime


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DIRECTV Premium Channel Pricing: 1=$13.99 ($17.99 for HBO) | 2=$25.99 ($30.99 with HBO) | 3=$38.99 ($43.99 with HBO) | 4=$48.99 ($53.99 with HBO) | All 5=$61.99 per month

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 02:28 PM

With HBO Now being available for $14.99 and Max Now rumored to be next for $9.99.  Will we see the cost of premiums thru Directv go down soon?



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Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:27 PM

My experience with Direct was that if I had most premiums, I could usually finagle a bit of a discount even while under contract.  Without premiums, discounts were much smaller and harder to get.  Of course, that isn't a guaranteed thing.


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:27 PM

With HBO Now being available for $14.99 and Max Now rumored to be next for $9.99.  Will we see the cost of premiums thru Directv go down soon?

 

Sure would be nice.  I am guessing if that subscriber base starts dropping they will have to so something.  DirecTV has to keep it at a profitable price but that is difficult when HBO is pricing it cheaper then a provider can offer it.


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:28 PM

With HBO Now being available for $14.99 and Max Now rumored to be next for $9.99.  Will we see the cost of premiums thru Directv go down soon?

 

I don't know about Direct (or Dish for that matter), but my cable company just gave me HBO for $18.95/month and Max for free good for a year.  Essentially making both services around the $10/month figure.


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 01:06 PM

I'm looking forward to subscribing to HBO NOW just so I don't have to go through the hassles of phone calls, customer service reps and sales pitches every time I want to turn off HBO for a few months. 


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 01:31 PM

I don't know about Direct (or Dish for that matter), but my cable company just gave me HBO for $18.95/month and Max for free good for a year. Essentially making both services around the $10/month figure.

But your minimum requirement with cable is most likely a Digital base package.
The cheapest package I could get HBO with cable is around $100 per month.
That's where directv and Dish sort of have an advantage with adding HBO with the Entertainment pack or Top 120.

But in many cases people don't care about those packages anymore, and could and would be fine spending $50 a month on channels they do want and watch.

I'm not totally set on cord cutting just yet, But I'm already estimated to save $60 a month, By dropping my digital services, going back to anolog, and subscribe to Netflix, Amazon, HBO now, and maybe Even a few others.

Since I already pay for Internet, and 4 streams of Netflix for years now, I may even take it a step further and invest in a ownedTivo Roamio with 3 minis, and eliminate the extra room fees.
But even that route would still keep me relying on the Networks and Providers jacking up price after price.

I'm going to test out my cord cutting come October when my promos run out.

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 01:55 PM

You're correct, cable does require some basic package, but then so do the satellite providers.

 

In my case I have all the channels I will actually watch, plus HBO/Starz/Max/SHO and the TV portion is around the $80+ mark, add in the Tivo I own and its fees ($20/month under the deal I got), and the 100/10 Internet service and the total bill is around $130 or so.   And if I was with satellite my bill for the TV alone would be around the total I pay for TV + Internet service.

 

If I was with D*, I would be at a higher level than Entertainment as it doesn't have the right channels.  And the Entertainment+Genie fees(about $23 total I think these days), plus the premiums would be higher than my total TV+Internet.


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 02:04 PM

You're correct, cable does require some basic package, but then so do the satellite providers.

In my case I have all the channels I will actually watch, plus HBO/Starz/Max/SHO and the TV portion is around the $80+ mark, add in the Tivo I own and its fees ($20/month under the deal I got), and the 100/10 Internet service and the total bill is around $130 or so. And if I was with satellite my bill for the TV alone would be around the total I pay for TV + Internet service.

If I was with D*, I would be at a higher level than Entertainment as it doesn't have the right channels. And the Entertainment+Genie fees(about $23 total I think these days), plus the premiums would be higher than my total TV+Internet.

You must be under a good promo, Because our cable digital+ full price is $90 alone, add all the premiums and that's another $45 a month. That's not even including receiver fees or internet.
So I'm not sure what you are subscribed too ???

Directv with 1 room HD DVR would easily cost you over $130 a month without internet with the programming you subscribe too.

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 02:23 PM

But your minimum requirement with cable is most likely a Digital base package.
The cheapest package I could get HBO with cable is around $100 per month.
That's where directv and Dish sort of have an advantage with adding HBO with the Entertainment pack or Top 120.

But in many cases people don't care about those packages anymore, and could and would be fine spending $50 a month on channels they do want and watch.

I'm not totally set on cord cutting just yet, But I'm already estimated to save $60 a month, By dropping my digital services, going back to anolog, and subscribe to Netflix, Amazon, HBO now, and maybe Even a few others.

Since I already pay for Internet, and 4 streams of Netflix for years now, I may even take it a step further and invest in a ownedTivo Roamio with 3 minis, and eliminate the extra room fees.
But even that route would still keep me relying on the Networks and Providers jacking up price after price.

I'm going to test out my cord cutting come October when my promos run out.

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 02:30 PM

Yes you can , it's $72 a month and .50 for addtional outlets.
It's called Basic plus cable.
Or Broadcast basic is $27 per month.
You get the local Networks in HD as well with either package.
Plus it discounts your Internet prices at the same level as digital cable.
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Posted 22 June 2015 - 04:56 PM

You must be under a good promo, Because our cable digital+ full price is $90 alone, add all the premiums and that's another $45 a month. That's not even including receiver fees or internet.
So I'm not sure what you are subscribed too ???

Directv with 1 room HD DVR would easily cost you over $130 a month without internet with the programming you subscribe too.

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Yes, I  am under a very good promo, and I'm not on a contract!  Their promo for 'family cable' or whatever they call it is very sweet, with a contract it goes up $15 2nd year, on no contract it is supposedly going up $25 2nd year.  But since I'm not on contract, and I know what a dickering type of guy I am mine won't be since I will cancel at the drop of a hat!  :)  The premiums are the real sweet spot in this.  Basically HBO/Max/SHO are on 1 year deals for $9.95 each and Starz is $8 for the same year.  Here's a rough breakdown :

 

Family cable  = $45

4  Premiums = $37 and change

10/100 Internet = $50

 

So a total of $132 and  change.  I was off on my last post, the Tivo  service is $20 so  total would be $152.  Still cheaper than going the sat/internet route.  I don't generally think about the Tivo fee since I would still have it even if I switched and it is worth it without cable hooked up at all as far as I'm concerned.

 

The way I look at it is that with no contract, I'm in the driver's seat as much as I'll ever be, but in the 2nd year if they don't dicker a bit I can and will switch.  I like that their premium promos are almost always a year long.  But let's say that 2nd year they add the $25, that would make it $175.  If I switched to  E* or D*, even in 1st year the combo pricing would be nearly that after you add in the D* Genie fees (whole home,dvr,lease fee), or Dish with $22 equipment fees for a Hopper and SuperJoey, plus with E* I would have to dicker hard to keep from paying for  a SuperJoey upfront.


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 08:32 PM

I'm looking forward to subscribing to HBO NOW just so I don't have to go through the hassles of phone calls, customer service reps and sales pitches every time I want to turn off HBO for a few months. 

You can always say no, but on the plus side they can give you some discounts that otherwise are not available on the straeaming only platform 


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