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#61 OFFLINE   BMWBig6

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 06:25 AM

Any chance they are going to fix the Geniego app to work with more tablets and devices?

It still does not work with the Galaxy Tab. The list of "approved" android devices is quite short.

 

It doesn't work with Dell Venue 8 (Android) either.  :(  I'm hoping the Android app will be updated to accommodate the new GenieGo 2 device.


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Posted 07 April 2014 - 12:02 AM

Would love to get higher quality video from my Genie 1 I already own even if it takes longer.

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 07:37 PM

Looks better, sounds better. I had the Home Cinema Kit for about 5 months and couldn't use it because Directv didn't send me the DECA that went with it. Just last week they came over and installed it all. Now I see what I want to where I want to. When this comes out, I'll ask for it..


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 06:03 AM

Looks better, sounds better. I had the Home Cinema Kit for about 5 months and couldn't use it because Directv didn't send me the DECA that went with it. Just last week they came over and installed it all. Now I see what I want to where I want to. When this comes out, I'll ask for it..

They'll treat it like Genie DVR's, you don't get to pick which model you'll get, so no guarantees.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:17 AM

Looks better, sounds better. [...] When this comes out, I'll ask for it..

 

They'll treat it like Genie DVR's, you don't get to pick which model you'll get, so no guarantees.

 

Correct. And having used both, I can tell you there's no difference in picture or audio quality using the GG2 vs. the GG1. Main difference is faster transcoding speeds, which, IMHO, only really matters if you need to wait for transcodes on your way out the door. If you normally transcode overnight, unless you need to process more hours of content than you sleep, either will work equally well for you.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:25 AM

RAD said this GenieGo will transcode OTA from an AN21.

Will the original GenieGo be able to do this now/soon?

Will we be able to transcode out of market sporting events we subscribe too now?

anyone know if the GG1 will be able to transcode OTA?

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:33 AM

anyone know if the GG1 will be able to transcode OTA?

 

That's a good question. I don't see why not, since it already transcodes MPEG-2 for SD programming. Fingers-crossed the next GG1 firmware update adds this capability, since the GG2 firmware already supports it.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:36 AM

Is there any chance that the GenieGo 1 can be updated to do faster than the 1:1 transcode that it now does or is it a hardware limitation?




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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:49 AM

Is there any chance that the GenieGo 1 can be updated to do faster than the 1:1 transcode that it now does or is it a hardware limitation?

I'm going to guess hardware since since day one it's always been around the 1:1 mark.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 02:39 PM

So basically the GenieGo I just received today is outdated? Should I return it and wait for the GenieGo 2?



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 02:59 PM

Up to you. No telling when next version may be released, or even if. 


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 03:50 PM

Up to you. No telling when next version may be released, or even if. 

It also doesn't seem to be what I thought it was. I was looking for a way to stream my content on my dvr.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 04:12 PM

It also doesn't seem to be what I thought it was. I was looking for a way to stream my content on my dvr.

That's never been the real purpose of GenieGo...it's mostly designed to free people up from any dependence of Internet connectivity to watch recorded content on a mobile device. Any streaming capability is just a secondary capability if one has a decent speed Internet connection...


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 05:02 PM

It also doesn't seem to be what I thought it was. I was looking for a way to stream my content on my dvr.

 

It certainly can stream your DVR content, if your mobile device has a decent wi-fi connection. A steady 768kbps or better connection provides a very good experience, IMO. Maximum quality can be achieved at about 1500kbps. The ability to stream to my iPhone has come in very handy for me lately; I don't always know in advance when I might be away from home and want to watch a  previous night's recording.

 

You can find a "how to stream" link about halfway down on this page. There's also a link to a LIVE TV streaming 'work-around' below it.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:01 PM

So, other than the difference in transcoding the 2 devices are very similar? If I want to stream, not put a show on my device, will the transcoding matter? I didn't pay for the genieGo and I didn't sign any contract extension so I guess I could just try it and if it doesn't work return it to them.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:16 PM

So, other than the difference in transcoding the 2 devices are very similar? If I want to stream, not put a show on my device, will the transcoding matter? I didn't pay for the genieGo and I didn't sign any contract extension so I guess I could just try it and if it doesn't work return it to them.

 

When you stream, you are still transcoding, but on the fly vs. to device storage.

 

They only allow one GG device per account, so it's hard for me to directly compare streaming one model to the other. My guess is if you're streaming and you want to skip commercials, the GG2 will resume playback after a skip faster than the GG1, because it has a faster processor. If you're just playing through however, and not trying to jump over commercials, I would expect streaming performance to be similar on both devices.

 

As I said above, the key is  to have a good internet connection, both uploading to the internet and downloading while out of home. GG transcodes are currently about 1.2 mbps, so 1.5 mbps wireless up and 1.5 mbps down will allow you to stream at maximum quality, with a bit of a cushion.

 

If you want to stream in-home, on your own wireless G or N network, odds are you'll have plenty of bandwidth available for maximum GG streaming quality at all times.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:56 PM

When you stream, you are still transcoding, but on the fly vs. to device storage.

 

They only allow one GG device per account, so it's hard for me to directly compare streaming one model to the other. My guess is if you're streaming and you want to skip commercials, the GG2 will resume playback after a skip faster than the GG1, because it has a faster processor. If you're just playing through however, and not trying to jump over commercials, I would expect streaming performance to be similar on both devices.

 

As I said above, the key is  to have a good internet connection, both uploading to the internet and downloading while out of home. GG transcodes are currently about 1.2 mbps, so 1.5 mbps wireless up and 1.5 mbps down will allow you to stream at maximum quality, with a bit of a cushion.

 

If you want to stream in-home, on your own wireless G or N network, odds are you'll have plenty of bandwidth available for maximum GG streaming quality at all times.

I have charter and download ranges from 15Mb to 60Mb and uploading ranges from 2.5Mb to 5Mb.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:01 PM

Can you FF/skip through commercials while streaming OOH? I didn't think you could do that (or maybe it is my device that doesn't allow it). 

 

Jonny4 -- if you didn't pay for the GG, and since there is no recurring fee, I wouldn't return it. 



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Posted 09 April 2014 - 01:28 AM

I have charter and download ranges from 15Mb to 60Mb and uploading ranges from 2.5Mb to 5Mb.

 

For streaming outside the home, you're fine on the upload side (2.5 to 5Mb). The download speed will depend on the wi-fi hotspot you're currently connected to at your hotel, hospital waiting room, coffee shop, etc.

 

Inside the home, you're hardwired on the upload side and the speed of your wireless router is the determining factor down, which shouldn't be an issue.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 01:36 AM

Can you FF/skip through commercials while streaming OOH? I didn't think you could do that (or maybe it is my device that doesn't allow it). 

 

Jonny4 -- if you didn't pay for the GG, and since there is no recurring fee, I wouldn't return it. 

 

Each client is different, ATM. I can skip using the iPhone client, but I have to use the scrubber bar with my iPad, e.g.


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