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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q2/Q3-14 Thread)


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#26 OFFLINE   TravelFan1

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 11:23 AM

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 10:10 PM

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 07:15 AM

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:59 PM

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:00 PM

More Encore Channels in HD on Directv Please


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 10:01 PM

Can someone please tell me what is it going to take for directv to add the Blaze, GOLTV HD,  FOX ESP HD. I also got a email about some changes in the Spanish channels.

 

I have had directv since 1993 and at this time cablevision of long island has more hd channels and adding more ever month. the only reason I stay with directv is the pic n sound is 100x better than cable



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 10:09 PM

I'm also soooo tried of hearing about this satellite that has to be launch to get more HD channels. They keep raising my bill for nothing new. No Pac 12 no Long Horn no Sec channel and no LA Dodgers. They give u dogtv, weather nation and Al Jeezer and el ray but nothing most people want. It might be time for a change. how is the pic n sound on Verizon  



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:27 PM

I'm also soooo tried of hearing about this satellite that has to be launch to get more HD channels. They keep raising my bill for nothing new. No Pac 12 no Long Horn no Sec channel and no LA Dodgers. They give u dogtv, weather nation and Al Jeezer and el ray but nothing most people want.

The channels you listed are contractual disputes and have almost nothing to do with bandwidth. (Although Pac-12's 7 channels will be a lot bandwidth wise since it isn't like BTN where the other feeds are only used during football and basketball season, they frequently have regional content) Heck in the case of TWC SportsNet LA NO ONE has it outside of TWC (and of course Brighthouse) since it's a channel that shouldn't even exist and was created out of nothing but greed by the Dodgers and TWC who dangled the offer of a team specific RSN with guaranteed coverage on their system to win the bidding war against Fox Sports. Now they want other providers to pay $5 per subscriber to cover their rediculous bid when they could have easily added the games to TWC SportsNet since there's very little overlap between the Dodgers and Lakers seasons.

WeatherNation was a result of the dispute with Weather Channel and bandwidth wise took the place of one of the PPV movie channels. (The final result was that Weather Channel is now in Choice or higher while WeatherNation is the weather network available in all of the packages) Very few HD PPV Movie channels are actually 365 days a year, the bulk of them are just filler between seasonal sports packages and some is reserved space in the event they come to terms with a channel before D14 goes live like missing RSNs and future launches where, barring some major impass with ESPN, will be coming at the next renewal later this year like Longhorn and SEC.

The rest of those channels are only in SD on DirecTV and have nothing to do with HD bandwidth, while Al Jazeera America was a rebrand of CurrentTV (which itself was a rebrand of Newsworld International). And just because you don't watch something doesn't mean others don't either. There's an entire thread in the TV forum dedicated to El Rey's original series From Dusk to Dawn, several threads about WeatherNation, including many users praising them for actually having weather 24/7 and focusing on the entire country as opposed to the other weather channel which ignores the entire country for days if it's going to snow more than an inch in a major east coast or midwest city, while DogTV is a subscription channel so only those who want it are subscribing. (Not to mention the previous quarter's thread had multiple people asking for these channels in HD)

Satellite launches require coordination from multiple international regulatory bodies, it isn't something that can happen right away along with the time it takes to build a satellite after the slot and frequencies are approved. It isn't like cable where they can free up space by doing things like eliminating analog service and implement off the shelf technology like switched video that only delivers the channels that the people in that specific hub or node are watching at a given time. So they have several choices, wait until D14 goes live and save whatever space they have left for special cases that might arise in before it goes live (i.e. WeatherNation, SEC, Longhorn, RSNs, etc) or start over compressing the existing channels and squeeze in as many channels as possible. Another option would be to eliminate SD service entirely, but by the time they complete the nationwide truck rolls to swap out the remaining 18 inch and Phase 3 dishes along with every non MPEG4 receiver, D15 will probably be in service.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 07:05 AM

Can someone please tell me what is it going to take for directv to add the Blaze, GOLTV HD,  FOX ESP HD. I also got a email about some changes in the Spanish channels.

 

I have had directv since 1993 and at this time cablevision of long island has more hd channels and adding more ever month. the only reason I stay with directv is the pic n sound is 100x better than cable

 

If DirecTV compressed their channels to add as many HD channels as Cablevision has, the picture quality would be as poor as Cablevision's.  I would prefer to have high quality pictures on the channels we have and forego some of the niche channels like Blaze, GolTV, and Fox Esp. 

 

With BeIN picking up La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, Copa del Rey, South American World Cup Qualifier and English Championship matches and NBC picking up Major League Soccer and the English Premier League, there is nothing left on GolTV except the Bundesliga (which they do not even broadcast in German).

 

I am not sure what you mean by Fox ESP.  Fox España is only available in Spain.  Fox Deportes does not have anything that is not already available on another channel.

 

I prefer to keep the high quality HD on the channels we have than to lower the picture quality to add every channel just because it exists..



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Posted 22 April 2014 - 07:41 AM

fleckrj, on 22 Apr 2014 - 08:05 AM, said:

Fox Deportes does not have anything that is not already available on another channel.

 

 

Actually they do: the Libertadores Cup. The South American equivalent to the Champions League.

 

 

Fox Deportes definitely on the top of my list for HD!!!


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 09:09 AM

If DirecTV compressed their channels to add as many HD channels as Cablevision has, the picture quality would be as poor as Cablevision's.  I would prefer to have high quality pictures on the channels we have and forego some of the niche channels like Blaze, GolTV, and Fox Esp. 

 

With BeIN picking up La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, Copa del Rey, South American World Cup Qualifier and English Championship matches and NBC picking up Major League Soccer and the English Premier League, there is nothing left on GolTV except the Bundesliga (which they do not even broadcast in German).

 

I am not sure what you mean by Fox ESP.  Fox España is only available in Spain.  Fox Deportes does not have anything that is not already available on another channel.

 

I prefer to keep the high quality HD on the channels we have than to lower the picture quality to add every channel just because it exists..

GolTV has more than just the German League. They also have Argentinian, Brazilian, Uruguayan, leagues. 

Fox Deportes has the Copa Libertadores which is equal to the Uefa. 

I for one am also subscribed to U-Verse TV and they do carry this 2 in HD. If D would add them I would cancel my U-Verse. 



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Posted 22 April 2014 - 10:10 AM

One World Sports.I'm enjoying the KHL finals,Nippon Baseball and now the home of England cricket on Dishworld would enjoy having it on Directv also.I also noticed Beinsportslay.tv is now available for Directv customers.Now we need watchespn.



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Posted 22 April 2014 - 11:27 AM

I'm also soooo tried of hearing about this satellite that has to be launch to get more HD channels. They keep raising my bill for nothing new. No Pac 12 no Long Horn no Sec channel and no LA Dodgers. They give u dogtv, weather nation and Al Jeezer and el ray but nothing most people want. It might be time for a change. how is the pic n sound on Verizon  

 

Is there even a TV provider in the country that doesn't raise their rates on a yearly basis? Every cable provider I've ever been with has raised their prices a little each year or two. Your argument is invalid, it's like saying you're going to stop driving Chevy's because the price of gas keeps going up. 

 

Welcome to the forum, I'd suggest learning how and why things work before just coming online to complain about things. 



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Posted 22 April 2014 - 12:13 PM

I'm also soooo tried of hearing about this satellite that has to be launch to get more HD channels. They keep raising my bill for nothing new. No Pac 12 no Long Horn no Sec channel and no LA Dodgers. They give u dogtv, weather nation and Al Jeezer and el ray but nothing most people want. It might be time for a change. how is the pic n sound on Verizon  

 

To be perfectly honest, most people have the channels they want. Yes, there are some vocal customers about certain channels, either ones they want added or dropped, but they are not in the majority.



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Posted 22 April 2014 - 12:30 PM

Is there even a TV provider in the country that doesn't raise their rates on a yearly basis? Every cable provider I've ever been with has raised their prices a little each year or two.

Not to mention those channels they're asking for are some of the more expensive channels compared to others which are less than 75 cents per subscriber. I wonder what their reaction would be to the price increase we would have got if DirecTV just bent over and took the asking price for all of those sports channels to carry them on day one.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 01:53 PM

I'm also soooo tried of hearing about this satellite that has to be launch to get more HD channels. They keep raising my bill for nothing new. No Pac 12 no Long Horn no Sec channel and no LA Dodgers. They give u dogtv, weather nation and Al Jeezer and el ray but nothing most people want. It might be time for a change. how is the pic n sound on Verizon


The SEC channel isn't on yet, so I wouldn't give up hope yet. Everyone is entitled to their own wants, but as far as the others you mentioned, I'd prefer El Rey in HD to any or all of them.


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 03:16 PM

While some contractual obligations exist that prevent channels being added (This is definitely the case for ESPN Goal Line/Buzzer Beater HD, Longhorn Network HD and the upcoming SEC Network HD), the reality is that cable in many areas has caught up and exceeded HD content to DirecTV. While quality can be disputed from area to area due to compression, amount of local channels, international programming, etc.

 

DirecTV has hung their hat on sports, and many of the recent sports channels are not being found on DirecTV. It's certainly disputable if many of these should exist, the most egregious being the aforementioned SportsNet LA, a needless RSN that's causing a black out of Dodgers games for Southern California. But there's something now in almost every region that's suppressing customers in these areas. No Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia/Houston/Northwest. No Pac-12 Network. No SportsNet LA. If DirecTV loses Sunday Ticket exclusivity (and I think it's coming at the very least in the form of an MLB.tv like product for the NFL), they're going to have little to hang their hat on with sports. And sports are one of the few things driving people to subscribe to cable programming, as more options go over-the-top and people go back to antennas.

 

While DirecTV's HD content is superior to Comcast, it's debatable depending on the channels with just about any other cable company. DirecTV loses to Charter, Bright House and probably Time Warner. You can debate it on Cox and Cablevision as both have their holes.

 

Some HD channels like WE HD, Esquire HD, Sprout HD, TV One HD and Fuse HD have been on cable systems in HD for as much as 5 years now, and are still not found on DirecTV. Since AMC HD and IFC HD have been added in that time period, it's not contractual there, but bandwidth concerns.

 

What DirecTV probably should do (and they won't) is to get rid of SD feeds, downconvert the HD feeds for SD subscribers (which is what Time Warner Cable is doing on its new lineups), and repurpose that spectrum for additional HD channels. Unlike cable where many boxes are not MPEG-4 capable, DirecTV has been using MPEG-4 for quite a while.



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Posted 22 April 2014 - 03:46 PM

What DirecTV probably should do (and they won't) is to get rid of SD feeds, downconvert the HD feeds for SD subscribers (which is what Time Warner Cable is doing on its new lineups), and repurpose that spectrum for additional HD channels. Unlike cable where many boxes are not MPEG-4 capable, DirecTV has been using MPEG-4 for quite a while.

The thing is DirecTV is nationwide, it isn't like cable where they can do it on a system by system basis. Doing that would involve nationwide truck rolls to replace all the 18inch and phase 3 dishes that are still to this day being used in SD only installs, as well as replacing every single non-MPEG4 receiver. Cable didn't really need truck rolls as the external wiring remained the same, and outside of the really non-tech or disabled subscribers they could pick up their own digital boxes at their local walk in center and install it themselves. By the time they do that, barring any disaster like the satellite exploding at launch, D14 will be in service and it will be a moot point when it comes to HD additions.

The recent receiver swap related to the ending of MPG guide stream would have been a place to start a transition, however the free replacements were D1x and R1x receivers, if they wanted an H2x, HR2x or a Genie it would have been an upgrade and start a new commitment. The first sign of an all MPEG4 transition will be when DirecTV stops offering new D1x and R1x receviers on their site along with no longer activating MPEG2 only receivers.

In the mean time though, DirecTV has added a LOT of HD on demand content from broadcasters like A&E, Scripps, Comcast and Viacom after those contracts were renewed in the past few years.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 06:18 PM

Second quarter wishes:

 

1) RFD-TV (HD)...as usual

 

2) A soccer package (a la Sunday Ticked or MLB; one price fits all)

 

In reference to #2, what were you thinking? There is UEFA, EPL, and whatever is on 479 sometimes for free now. You can add MLS Direct Kick or Directv Deportes and get most of the remaining soccer games. There are still a good number of soccer games on the remaining 400s channels, and FSP - where you thinking of access to those games, too? (Without needing to buy the rest of the content on the channels?) That would make sense to me!

 

Can someone please tell me what is it going to take for directv to add the Blaze, GOLTV HD,  FOX ESP HD. I also got a email about some changes in the Spanish channels.

 

I have had directv since 1993 and at this time cablevision of long island has more hd channels and adding more ever month. the only reason I stay with directv is the pic n sound is 100x better than cable

 

Since GolTV used to be HD and no longer is - I assume it would take a lot for it to come back. Are there other examples of Directv downgrading a channel like that?


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Posted 22 April 2014 - 06:30 PM

While DirecTV's HD content is superior to Comcast, it's debatable depending on the channels with just about any other cable company. DirecTV loses to Charter, Bright House and probably Time Warner. You can debate it on Cox and Cablevision as both have their holes.


I can tell you from a former charter subscriber that they don't have a better picture quality than directv. I can also tell you that my parents have bright house and the HD quality is horrible. Pixelation like you wouldn't believe.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 06:37 PM

thank you !!!!  Goltv has more than just the German league, it was in hd for years. I know Bein sports has pretty much taken all there main programing but if u remember the French n Italian league was on fox soccer before bein sports bought the rights . I also know there are channels that others enjoy that I have no interest in but when u speak to a customers service rep at Directv and the most requested new channels are the Blazetv, Pac 12  and Epic movie channels. I think its time for them to listen to there customers. The only reason I can think of is that Fox sports will start carrying the German league n MLS IN 2015. That's way they wont add Goltv in Hd. I enjoy the debate please commit and tell me what u think.



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Posted 22 April 2014 - 06:38 PM

I also just got genie to go. Than one month later the genie 2 comes out. Is there a big difference or not



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:11 AM

The rest of those channels are only in SD on DirecTV and have nothing to do with HD bandwidth, while Al Jazeera America was a rebrand of CurrentTV (which itself was a rebrand of Newsworld International). And just because you don't watch something doesn't mean others don't either.

 

Exactly. Al Jazeera America even in SD is one of my most watched channels right now and and sits proudly in my Quick Tune listings. Henceforth it's certainly in my wish list for channels to be added in HD on DirecTV. But I also understand that it's not a highly in demand channel to be added in HD. Not to mention between waiting for the next sat to launch and DirecTV probably waiting for the existing contract from the CurrentTV/Newsworld days to be done with before renegotiating with Al Jazeera as well that I'm thankful to have the channel in SD at this time.

 

The funny thing is I've seen ads for Al Jazeera America on other channels in HD. Which is really odd to see a channel only in SD right now yet ads being run for it in HD.



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 06:14 AM

 

The funny thing is I've seen ads for Al Jazeera America on other channels in HD. Which is really odd to see a channel only in SD right now yet ads being run for it in HD.

That used to happen all of the time with the Scripts networks.  Cooking Channel and DIY were offered in HD, ads for programs on those networks were in HD on Food Network and HGTV. 

 

Everything will be in HD by 2016, but I do not expect more than two or three new HD channels between now and February of 2015.



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 10:10 AM

That used to happen all of the time with the Scripts networks.  Cooking Channel and DIY were offered in HD, ads for programs on those networks were in HD on Food Network and HGTV. 

 

Everything will be in HD by 2016, but I do not expect more than two or three new HD channels between now and February of 2015.

And your bill will be sky high. Who needs Cooking Channel?


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