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AT&T Agrees to Purchase DirecTV (Was: ATT looking to buy Direct TV)


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#751 OFFLINE   slice1900

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 06:34 PM

Not a chance, it would cost a lot more to put it in every receiver, when you only need one LTE radio per house (or zero, for all those who have wired internet)

 

If they were going to do this, it would make more sense to put the LTE antenna/radio on the LNB, and use the DECA band for receivers to communicate with it. You'd be better off with an outdoor antenna anyway versus having one built into a receiver that might be buried in a AV cabinet in the basement, and upgrading such customers would simply require replacing the LNB.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 06:53 PM

I sure hope they plan to install FTTH internet here. I am stuck with Cox Cable, Dialup, Old Verizon DSL, or Slow and expensive Dish. To finally have a viable alternative to Cox Cable would be nice.   



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 06:53 PM

Not a chance, it would cost a lot more to put it in every receiver, when you only need one LTE radio per house (or zero, for all those who have wired internet)

 

If they were going to do this, it would make more sense to put the LTE antenna/radio on the LNB, and use the DECA band for receivers to communicate with it. You'd be better off with an outdoor antenna anyway versus having one built into a receiver that might be buried in a AV cabinet in the basement, and upgrading such customers would simply require replacing the LNB.

 

Well, whatever, the mechanics aren't important. I could also see an LTE version of the Cinema Connection Kit and you get an LTE connection for your DirecTV receivers built into your package.



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 06:57 PM

Throw in something like NFL RedZone and one has to be a truly die hard fan to want to spend the near $300 a season. This could be a hard sell when people start doing the math.

 

For those out of their favorite teams zone it's the only alternative.  It's still cheaper than going to a couple games, or even having to buy a few beers per game at the local bar down the street that carries it.    


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 03:48 AM

Update: Senate to consider AT&T-DirecTV merger
 
(The Hill) - The Senate Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on the proposed $49 billion merger of AT&T and DirecTV later this month, the panel announced on Thursday.
 
The Antitrust subcommittee’s session will be held on the same day that the House Judiciary Committee holds its hearing, on June 24. The House panel will go first with a hearing in the morning, followed hours later by lawmakers in the Senate....
 
 
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Posted 13 June 2014 - 07:25 AM

Not a chance, it would cost a lot more to put it in every receiver, when you only need one LTE radio per house (or zero, for all those who have wired internet)

If they were going to do this, it would make more sense to put the LTE antenna/radio on the LNB, and use the DECA band for receivers to communicate with it. You'd be better off with an outdoor antenna anyway versus having one built into a receiver that might be buried in a AV cabinet in the basement, and upgrading such customers would simply require replacing the LNB.


Wireless standards evolve too quickly to embed LTE equipment in any DirecTV receivers or LNBs. LTE is no longer the fastest standard, it has been surpassed by LTE-Advanced which is currently being field tested around the world. Verizon is rolling out an enhancement called XLTE that bonds two frequencies together (from different wireless bands) to double the bandwidth. I'm sure AT&T will embrace one of these two soon. If you want to integrate wireless, it would make more sense to use a wireless modem module that can be upgraded independently of the rest of the installation.

Hasn't DirecTV already demonstrated IP delivery. I seem to remember a HR20i being field tested a few years ago. If I'm not mis-remembering then the technology already exists.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 07:49 AM

 

Update: Senate to consider AT&T-DirecTV merger
 
(The Hill) - The Senate Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on the proposed $49 billion merger of AT&T and DirecTV later this month, the panel announced on Thursday.
 
The Antitrust subcommittee’s session will be held on the same day that the House Judiciary Committee holds its hearing, on June 24. The House panel will go first with a hearing in the morning, followed hours later by lawmakers in the Senate....
 
 
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It's interesting that the image looks like a Death Star with a dish on it...hmmm.....


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 09:47 AM

For those out of their favorite teams zone it's the only alternative.  It's still cheaper than going to a couple games, or even having to buy a few beers per game at the local bar down the street that carries it.    

 

$300 for a season to watch your favorite team/s seems like a pretty cheap deal.  That's pretty close to what you'd spend at one game.  I live in an area close to NYC and root for the Yankees, Jets and Giants (I realize that's not normal, but how much losing can a Jets fan take without finding another team to root for?) so I don't have that problem, but if I moved somewhere where I couldn't get their games I'd buy into the NFL and MLB packages in a heartbeat (and yes, I can do the math).

 

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:11 AM

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AT&T says that it will expand its broadband network, promote net neutrality, and clean its room every single day if the US Federal Communications Commission approves its bid to acquire satellite-television firm DirecTV.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 12:57 PM

Wireless standards evolve too quickly to embed LTE equipment in any DirecTV receivers or LNBs. LTE is no longer the fastest standard, it has been surpassed by LTE-Advanced which is currently being field tested around the world. Verizon is rolling out an enhancement called XLTE that bonds two frequencies together (from different wireless bands) to double the bandwidth. I'm sure AT&T will embrace one of these two soon. If you want to integrate wireless, it would make more sense to use a wireless modem module that can be upgraded independently of the rest of the installation.

Hasn't DirecTV already demonstrated IP delivery. I seem to remember a HR20i being field tested a few years ago. If I'm not mis-remembering then the technology already exists.

 

What I was responding to was the idea that AT&T would add wireless capability to Directv for rural/remote customers who live where there aren't wired broadband options. I'm not really convinced they'd package the networking together either, but I could see pros and cons for putting it on the LNB versus making it a separate unit.

 

I wouldn't worry too much about faster technologies coming along though, since older ones don't go away until many years later. This would be targeted at rural customers, who don't have LTE today and won't be getting it for a few more years. AT&T has said they won't decommission Edge until 2017, which I take to mean it'll be that long before all the rural areas are upgraded (to LTE, not 3G, because LTE has a longer range) Once they're upgraded, it will be eons before they get another upgrade, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for LTE Advanced anytime soon if I lived in an area that is still on Edge today.

 

As for the H20i/HR20i, it was used for a new generation of Directv's MDU technology, but they never pursued it (not sure if it was cost or other concerns) Basically the dish was connected to a very expensive headend that demodulated the channels in parallel - and therefore needed to be upgraded as Directv added new satellites. I don't believe it was really all that different than a C31 connected to a Genie as far as how the IP delivery part works, though. It is just the difference between being limited to 5 tuners and having 1000+ :)


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 05:26 PM

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:44 PM

$300 for a season to watch your favorite team/s seems like a pretty cheap deal.  That's pretty close to what you'd spend at one game.  I live in an area close to NYC and root for the Yankees, Jets and Giants (I realize that's not normal, but how much losing can a Jets fan take without finding another team to root for?) so I don't have that problem, but if I moved somewhere where I couldn't get their games I'd buy into the NFL and MLB packages in a heartbeat (and yes, I can do the math).

 

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I'm in Orioles country unfortunately, so I subscribe to MLB EI.  MLB EI is a great deal IMO as it comes out to less than $1.25/game. It would be nice when the Yankees and Orioles play if I wasn't stuck watching the Orioles feed, but a minor inconvenience. Football and the other sports are a little less so of a deal, but if I wasn't around my local teams area I'd have it as well.  

And you think you have it bad with the Jets.  Just be thankful you are not a Redskins fan. Yeah, we had one decent season the year before last, but the past 14 years has not been good to us.    


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:22 PM

This could be one reason AT&T purchased DirecTV.
 

AT&T, Comcast Have Spotty Record Of Providing Internet To Rural And Poor
 

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As telecom giants seek approval for their latest mergers, millions of people without fast, reliable Internet service have become bargaining chips.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 01:09 AM

AT&T will just take the Verizon route with rural broadband. Like home fusion it will be wireless, extremly expensive, and have ridiculous caps. Bank on it. You will never see fiber ever.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 06:33 AM

I'm in Orioles country unfortunately, so I subscribe to MLB EI.  MLB EI is a great deal IMO as it comes out to less than $1.25/game. It would be nice when the Yankees and Orioles play if I wasn't stuck watching the Orioles feed, but a minor inconvenience. Football and the other sports are a little less so of a deal, but if I wasn't around my local teams area I'd have it as well.  

And you think you have it bad with the Jets.  Just be thankful you are not a Redskins fan. Yeah, we had one decent season the year before last, but the past 14 years has not been good to us.    

 

Yeah, I know I've had it bad with the Jets.  Been about 45 years since our last Super Bowl win and I don't see one coming. Thankfully the Giants aren't as pitiful as the Jets.  In '69, I thought, "Oh boy, a dynasty is building".  Oh boy, was I ever wrong.

 

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 03:07 PM

Try being a cowboys fan with all the talent and going 8-8 year after year


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 04:13 PM

Try being a cowboys fan with all the talent and going 8-8 year after year

No, thanks!  :) 

 

We (Niners and 'Boys) had some great games and rivalry in the distant past.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 06:00 PM

No, thanks! :)

We (Niners and 'Boys) had some great games and rivalry in the distant past.

yes we did. Hopefully soon we can get back to that


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 07:12 PM

AT&T will just take the Verizon route with rural broadband. Like home fusion it will be wireless, extremly expensive, and have ridiculous caps. Bank on it. You will never see fiber ever.

Yep, expensive LTE service is going to be att Answer.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 07:37 AM

As I posted elsewhere, DirecTV will, over the next 18 months or so, increase their available bandwidth by a significant margin. What I'm worried about is that AT&T might decide to use some of that bandwidth to deliver broadband via satellite, even if only as a stop gap. They might move some content from the Spaceway satellites to D14 and/or D15 and repurpose the released Spaceway transponders for broadband spot beams. It would be quicker, easier and cheaper than building new cellular towers.

While some have said that would devalue DirecTV, I would remind everyone that once the acquisition is complete, the key principle will not be the value of DirecTV, but rather the overall value of AT&T.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:56 AM

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:00 AM

As I posted elsewhere, DirecTV will, over the next 18 months or so, increase their available bandwidth by a significant margin. What I'm worried about is that AT&T might decide to use some of that bandwidth to deliver broadband via satellite, even if only as a stop gap. They might move some content from the Spaceway satellites to D14 and/or D15 and repurpose the released Spaceway transponders for broadband spot beams. It would be quicker, easier and cheaper than building new cellular towers.

While some have said that would devalue DirecTV, I would remind everyone that once the acquisition is complete, the key principle will not be the value of DirecTV, but rather the overall value of AT&T.

 

Doubt it.  Sat is terrible for internet - way too much latency.  Also very expensive, poor bandwidth, low caps.  Only place it is used is rural areas that get no other service.  If they wanted that they would just buy HughesNet.

 

I have no idea but I suspect the sats are licensed for a specific purpose.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:23 AM

Doubt it.  Sat is terrible for internet - way too much latency.  Also very expensive, poor bandwidth, low caps.  Only place it is used is rural areas that get no other service.  If they wanted that they would just buy HughesNet.

 

I have no idea but I suspect the sats are licensed for a specific purpose.

Yes, and not too swift for cellular! 

 

I do wonder if ATT can make use of sat. service in any meaningful way (other than what's involved with DIRECTV!)


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:31 AM

Doubt it.  Sat is terrible for internet - way too much latency.  Also very expensive, poor bandwidth, low caps.  Only place it is used is rural areas that get no other service.  If they wanted that they would just buy HughesNet.

 

I have no idea but I suspect the sats are licensed for a specific purpose.

 

Of course, we are talking about rural areas where there are currently no other options.  I don't see it as a long term solution, but simply getting the permission from the local community to build a cellular tower can take years.  Using satellite would let them offer a phone/broadband/TV bundle everywhere they have cellular coverage and a broadband/TV bundle where they do not.

 

They might buy HughesNet if Echostar wanted to sell it.

 

Yes, the spaceway satellites are currently licensed for DTH video, but they were originally (when the licenses were granted) licensed for broadband.  It would not be a big deal to get the operating licenses ammended.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 11:26 AM

It isn't difficult to get approval to build cell towers in rural areas, it is only a problem in the suburbs where the NIMBYs come out. Farmers and ranchers have no problem with a telco paying them $1000/month for a useless corner of land.


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