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AT&T Agrees to Purchase DirecTV (Was: ATT looking to buy Direct TV)


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#741 OFFLINE   carlsbad_bolt_fan

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 10:31 AM

I have no issues with video streaming on AT&T.

Glad it works where you live. Around here (San Diego County) it stinks. I remember having to plan my driving routes carefully just in case a client called. Got to know where the many dead areas were rather well. Never had to worry about that again when I switched to Verizon.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 10:35 AM

Here we go again with the "is it worth it" argument. ..


Indeed...the very definition of the term "first world problem." :)
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Posted 11 June 2014 - 01:18 PM

Great! Just what AT&T needs for their already overburdened network. :rolling:

 

Wireless specs seem to be doubling ever few years now. There's another revolution in progress and this one is centered around wireless.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 01:56 PM

Glad it works where you live. Around here (San Diego County) it stinks. I remember having to plan my driving routes carefully just in case a client called. Got to know where the many dead areas were rather well. Never had to worry about that again when I switched to Verizon.


San Diego may be one of the most difficult major cities in the entire country for reception of anything. And att did not build out there as well as other markets for a long time. Don't know about now though.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 02:42 PM

Glad it works where you live. Around here (San Diego County) it stinks. I remember having to plan my driving routes carefully just in case a client called. Got to know where the many dead areas were rather well. Never had to worry about that again when I switched to Verizon.

 

Here is the kicker. Despite the rep Verizon has, I have nothing but trouble with my iPad with Verizon, particularly when I try to stream. I got the Verizon iPad because I believed it would be better based upon Consumer Reports and other customer complaints. Nope. It is horrible in an area it is supposed to be great. I get nothing but complaints from friends in the area who are using Verizon for Android and other i devices as well.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 03:56 PM

Where Verizon is bad, it is usually REALLY bad.  I'm in the Baltimore suburbs this week for work and Verizon reception is poor.  AT&T on the other hand, which delivers zero to one bar atmy home in NJ, is cranking 4 or 5 bars here.  It's all about where the nearest tower is and how many users it needs to support.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 02:15 PM

In news that is not surprising, AT&T states in regulatory filings that combined company will be able offer lower bundled pricing of tv and internet access. 

 

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 02:34 PM

Also, interestingly enough, if your read through the AT&T/DirecTV filing, they plan to use DirecTV's platform and equipment for U-Verse. They will still offer TV over IP/VDSL but they will be transitioning to use DirecTV-style receivers including the Genie instead of the Motorola and Cisco set tops running Microsoft/Ericsson Mediaroom.



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 04:15 PM

Also, interestingly enough, if your read through the AT&T/DirecTV filing, they plan to use DirecTV's platform and equipment for U-Verse. They will still offer TV over IP/VDSL but they will be transitioning to use DirecTV-style receivers including the Genie instead of the Motorola and Cisco set tops running Microsoft/Ericsson Mediaroom.

 

Since they deliver video via IP that should be pretty easy to do. The Genie would receive encrypted MPEG4 video, directly, rather than tuning and demodulating a SWM channel to obtain the encrypted MPEG4 video. Basically skipping a step or two, and making for a slightly cheaper Genie since it would leave out the satellite tuner. Disable a few things in the setup (i.e. no satellite setup/info) and there you go.

 

I guess that eliminates one worry of Directv customers here, and accounts for some of the savings (i.e. the development/production cost of Directv equipment would be spread over more units)


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 05:31 PM

Since they deliver video via IP that should be pretty easy to do. The Genie would receive encrypted MPEG4 video, directly, rather than tuning and demodulating a SWM channel to obtain the encrypted MPEG4 video. Basically skipping a step or two, and making for a slightly cheaper Genie since it would leave out the satellite tuner. Disable a few things in the setup (i.e. no satellite setup/info) and there you go.

 

I guess that eliminates one worry of Directv customers here, and accounts for some of the savings (i.e. the development/production cost of Directv equipment would be spread over more units)

 

I would also expect all receivers to get built-in LTE radios, so that DirecTV customers who aren't on AT&T wired internet services can still have guaranteed connectivity back to the mothership. Lots of interesting things they can do by having a national wireless company, a satellite service, and wired internet services under one roof. 



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 06:34 PM

Not a chance, it would cost a lot more to put it in every receiver, when you only need one LTE radio per house (or zero, for all those who have wired internet)

 

If they were going to do this, it would make more sense to put the LTE antenna/radio on the LNB, and use the DECA band for receivers to communicate with it. You'd be better off with an outdoor antenna anyway versus having one built into a receiver that might be buried in a AV cabinet in the basement, and upgrading such customers would simply require replacing the LNB.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 06:53 PM

I sure hope they plan to install FTTH internet here. I am stuck with Cox Cable, Dialup, Old Verizon DSL, or Slow and expensive Dish. To finally have a viable alternative to Cox Cable would be nice.   



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 06:53 PM

Not a chance, it would cost a lot more to put it in every receiver, when you only need one LTE radio per house (or zero, for all those who have wired internet)

 

If they were going to do this, it would make more sense to put the LTE antenna/radio on the LNB, and use the DECA band for receivers to communicate with it. You'd be better off with an outdoor antenna anyway versus having one built into a receiver that might be buried in a AV cabinet in the basement, and upgrading such customers would simply require replacing the LNB.

 

Well, whatever, the mechanics aren't important. I could also see an LTE version of the Cinema Connection Kit and you get an LTE connection for your DirecTV receivers built into your package.



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 06:57 PM

Throw in something like NFL RedZone and one has to be a truly die hard fan to want to spend the near $300 a season. This could be a hard sell when people start doing the math.

 

For those out of their favorite teams zone it's the only alternative.  It's still cheaper than going to a couple games, or even having to buy a few beers per game at the local bar down the street that carries it.    


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 03:48 AM

Update: Senate to consider AT&T-DirecTV merger
 
(The Hill) - The Senate Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on the proposed $49 billion merger of AT&T and DirecTV later this month, the panel announced on Thursday.
 
The Antitrust subcommittee’s session will be held on the same day that the House Judiciary Committee holds its hearing, on June 24. The House panel will go first with a hearing in the morning, followed hours later by lawmakers in the Senate....
 
 
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Posted 13 June 2014 - 07:25 AM

Not a chance, it would cost a lot more to put it in every receiver, when you only need one LTE radio per house (or zero, for all those who have wired internet)

If they were going to do this, it would make more sense to put the LTE antenna/radio on the LNB, and use the DECA band for receivers to communicate with it. You'd be better off with an outdoor antenna anyway versus having one built into a receiver that might be buried in a AV cabinet in the basement, and upgrading such customers would simply require replacing the LNB.


Wireless standards evolve too quickly to embed LTE equipment in any DirecTV receivers or LNBs. LTE is no longer the fastest standard, it has been surpassed by LTE-Advanced which is currently being field tested around the world. Verizon is rolling out an enhancement called XLTE that bonds two frequencies together (from different wireless bands) to double the bandwidth. I'm sure AT&T will embrace one of these two soon. If you want to integrate wireless, it would make more sense to use a wireless modem module that can be upgraded independently of the rest of the installation.

Hasn't DirecTV already demonstrated IP delivery. I seem to remember a HR20i being field tested a few years ago. If I'm not mis-remembering then the technology already exists.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 07:49 AM

 

Update: Senate to consider AT&T-DirecTV merger
 
(The Hill) - The Senate Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on the proposed $49 billion merger of AT&T and DirecTV later this month, the panel announced on Thursday.
 
The Antitrust subcommittee’s session will be held on the same day that the House Judiciary Committee holds its hearing, on June 24. The House panel will go first with a hearing in the morning, followed hours later by lawmakers in the Senate....
 
 
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Posted 13 June 2014 - 09:47 AM

For those out of their favorite teams zone it's the only alternative.  It's still cheaper than going to a couple games, or even having to buy a few beers per game at the local bar down the street that carries it.    

 

$300 for a season to watch your favorite team/s seems like a pretty cheap deal.  That's pretty close to what you'd spend at one game.  I live in an area close to NYC and root for the Yankees, Jets and Giants (I realize that's not normal, but how much losing can a Jets fan take without finding another team to root for?) so I don't have that problem, but if I moved somewhere where I couldn't get their games I'd buy into the NFL and MLB packages in a heartbeat (and yes, I can do the math).

 

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:11 AM

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AT&T says that it will expand its broadband network, promote net neutrality, and clean its room every single day if the US Federal Communications Commission approves its bid to acquire satellite-television firm DirecTV.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 12:57 PM

Wireless standards evolve too quickly to embed LTE equipment in any DirecTV receivers or LNBs. LTE is no longer the fastest standard, it has been surpassed by LTE-Advanced which is currently being field tested around the world. Verizon is rolling out an enhancement called XLTE that bonds two frequencies together (from different wireless bands) to double the bandwidth. I'm sure AT&T will embrace one of these two soon. If you want to integrate wireless, it would make more sense to use a wireless modem module that can be upgraded independently of the rest of the installation.

Hasn't DirecTV already demonstrated IP delivery. I seem to remember a HR20i being field tested a few years ago. If I'm not mis-remembering then the technology already exists.

 

What I was responding to was the idea that AT&T would add wireless capability to Directv for rural/remote customers who live where there aren't wired broadband options. I'm not really convinced they'd package the networking together either, but I could see pros and cons for putting it on the LNB versus making it a separate unit.

 

I wouldn't worry too much about faster technologies coming along though, since older ones don't go away until many years later. This would be targeted at rural customers, who don't have LTE today and won't be getting it for a few more years. AT&T has said they won't decommission Edge until 2017, which I take to mean it'll be that long before all the rural areas are upgraded (to LTE, not 3G, because LTE has a longer range) Once they're upgraded, it will be eons before they get another upgrade, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for LTE Advanced anytime soon if I lived in an area that is still on Edge today.

 

As for the H20i/HR20i, it was used for a new generation of Directv's MDU technology, but they never pursued it (not sure if it was cost or other concerns) Basically the dish was connected to a very expensive headend that demodulated the channels in parallel - and therefore needed to be upgraded as Directv added new satellites. I don't believe it was really all that different than a C31 connected to a Genie as far as how the IP delivery part works, though. It is just the difference between being limited to 5 tuners and having 1000+ :)


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