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NBC Cancels 'Revolution,' 'Believe,' 'Crisis' and 'Growing Up Fisher'


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 11:06 AM

I don't think a PG rated apocalypse is ever going to be believable. That is why Walking Dead does so well on AMC.

When the big 4 networks try it, it always comes out Disney like.

having seen pretty much all apocalyptic shows like this fade quickly it's not surprising. I'm sure there will be some other show that will fill the void.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 11:28 AM

I don't think a PG rated apocalypse is ever going to be believable. That is why Walking Dead does so well on AMC.

When the big 4 networks try it, it always comes out Disney like.

 

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 11:57 AM

Revolution did kind of lose it's way but I still found that it was one of the few shows I watched that I was caught up on. I have a number of shows that are stacked pretty high for when I have nothing better to do.

I will miss Revolution, but having seen pretty much all apocalyptic shows like this fade quickly it's not surprising. I'm sure there will be some other show that will fill the void.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 12:25 PM

I really liked Crisis, although I am totally tired of the CIA always being the fall guy for every bad thing that happens.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 12:55 PM

So you enjoy wasting your time on a show you know has been cancelled and has no "ending"?  Ok...


It depends on the show. Some shows don't have an ending. They may work up a goodbye episode, but they are not long arc epic stories - they are a series of short stories. They can be fun to watch even if they are going away. (And who knows, they could be revived in a future season or by another network.)

 

That's like starting a relationship with a woman you know is leaving town forever next week.  Total waste of time when you could be dating someone that isn't leaving town for good.


Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

Perhaps a relationship with you is just what that woman wanted ... and she will cancel her plans to leave town if only someone, anyone, possibly you, would give her a reason. You never know until you try. But I suppose it is your story ... so your rebuttal will be to add more fiction to the hypothetical - reasons she can't stay. But following your policy of not paying attention to stories that won't last we must ignore your story of a woman leaving town forever, as we know your story will die when this thread fades into the ether.

Shows are kept based on viewership. Your refusal to watch shows on the fear that they will be canceled reduces viewership. Perhaps you should be giving a big thank you to those who take the risk - who watch the shows while they are in their premier seasons - who make the shows popular enough to have them renewed. Without those viewers you wouldn't have shows to binge watch once they are renewed. You should thank those viewers.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:22 PM

Those that took a chance have convinced your potential lover to stay in town. You owe them gratitude, not scorn.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:22 PM

I watch anything that I think I will enjoy, regardless of whether or not it is a possible cancellation candidate.  I love TV!!  Have since I was tiny.  I love watching shows that entertain and move me in one way or another.  That's all I care about.  Being entertained.

 

Sure I'm disappointed when I a show I got invested in is cancelled, but it's just TV.  It's not my husband or children leaving me.  Or even my best friend.  I'll make new TV show friends the next round.  And continue to be entertained and moved.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 05:18 PM

Revolution did kind of lose it's way but I still found that it was one of the few shows I watched that I was caught up on. I have a number of shows that are stacked pretty high for when I have nothing better to do.

I will miss Revolution, but having seen pretty much all apocalyptic shows like this fade quickly it's not surprising. I'm sure there will be some other show that will fill the void.

 

I read a lot of apocalyptic books, seems like they just don't translate to TV very well.  There's The Walking Dead and ...

 

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 08:31 PM

I take each episode as an individual, serialized or not.  If I start watching something in reruns that are out of sequence and get into the story, I'll try to catch up at some point. I don't really care whether they have a formal ending or not.  Case in point, The Pretender (Michael T. Weiss, Andrea Parker) which was dropped by NBC, picked up by TNT, dropped again in a cliffhanger, continued in a couple of movies which both ended with cliffhangers, picked up years later in books and may still end up with another movie.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:26 PM

I take each episode as an individual, serialized or not.  If I start watching something in reruns that are out of sequence and get into the story, I'll try to catch up at some point. I don't really care whether they have a formal ending or not.  Case in point, The Pretender (Michael T. Weiss, Andrea Parker) which was dropped by NBC, picked up by TNT, dropped again in a cliffhanger, continued in a couple of movies which both ended with cliffhangers, picked up years later in books and may still end up with another movie.

Really?  That was one of my most favorite shows ever!  I didn't know a movie might still come about.  I also didn't know there were any books on it either.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 09:32 PM

Really?  That was one of my most favorite shows ever!  I didn't know a movie might still come about.  I also didn't know there were any books on it either.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 10:19 PM

Thank you!  I remember well the crossover episodes with Profiler.  That was another of my favorite shows of all time.  So combining them - I was in heaven!


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 11:28 PM

Thank you!  I remember well the crossover episodes with Profiler.  That was another of my favorite shows of all time.  So combining them - I was in heaven!

 

Just think. Right now you can watch all 86 episodes of "The Pretender" on HULU for free and "Profiler" is on YouTube but with Dutch subtitles.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:29 AM

It depends on the show. Some shows don't have an ending. They may work up a goodbye episode, but they are not long arc epic stories - they are a series of short stories. They can be fun to watch even if they are going away. (And who knows, they could be revived in a future season or by another network.)

 

 

Well I'm not going to invest my time to find out if they are a series of short stories or a long arc of epic stories (which most are that look good to me) until the show has proven it has staying power.  

 

Time is money and I'm not wasting my time on something that can't stick around.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:31 AM

I take each episode as an individual, serialized or not.

 

Cool, then watch LOST out of order by episode and season and then only watch 15 episodes.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 01:54 AM

I think comedies are much easier to just watch and not worry about when they get canceled.

As for series it really just depends IMHO. A procedural like csi is usually pretty easy to catch a few and miss a few and be fine. But then there's ones like the following or lost that really need to be watched in order to fully enjoy them.

I think networks should limit new show's the first year to twelve or so and make sure it's got a good beginning and middle and end and even if it does bad just put them on demand so people will always know they will get a full story arch. And if it does well enough then bring it back for twenty plus episodes next season.

Heck that's pretty much what cable channels do and it's working good for then.
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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:17 AM

The numbers needed for a cable channel show to be classed as good enough to keep are much lower than the ones the broadcast networks find acceptable for the most part.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:52 AM

The numbers needed for a cable channel show to be classed as good enough to keep are much lower than the ones the broadcast networks find acceptable for the most part.

 

You're right and it's time for the networks to get that paradigm out of their minds.  The ~ 13 episode yearly series is much better than trying desperately to come up with ~ 23 good episodes (which doesn't seem possible) for a yearly series.  

 

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:34 AM

The numbers needed for a cable channel show to be classed as good enough to keep are much lower than the ones the broadcast networks find acceptable for the most part.


True. But for those who like a show it would be good faith to not cut a series off halfway in and never let them have any conclusion. It's causes a situation like Runner where he waits to see if the show is canceled before watching then they lose viewership.

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:21 PM

Cool, then watch LOST out of order by episode and season and then only watch 15 episodes.

That is the reason I stopped watching Lost. You had to watch all and in order to get anything out of it. I stopped partway into the first season. There are enough shows where each episode can stand on its own merits to waste time with junk like LOST.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:39 PM

That is the reason I stopped watching Lost. You had to watch all and in order to get anything out of it. I stopped partway into the first season. There are enough shows where each episode can stand on its own merits to waste time with junk like LOST.

 

There were times in my life I couldn't watch every episode every week, particularly before the convenience of DVR's. So I understand how you feel.

 

On the other hand, even in a show where most of the time the episode story is complete, like "NCIS," there are continuous and season story arcs that provide some interesting, albeit mostly emotional character oriented, content. You get hints about what's going on at that level but some episodes are significant with regard to those stories.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 01:06 PM

That is the reason I stopped watching Lost. You had to watch all and in order to get anything out of it. I stopped partway into the first season. There are enough shows where each episode can stand on its own merits to waste time with junk like LOST.

 

LOST wasn't "junk".  Second, why would you even consider watching any show out of order?


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 02:12 PM

 why would you even consider watching any show out of order?

For most shows, 'order' of production doesn't matter.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 02:56 PM

For most shows, 'order' of production doesn't matter.

 

More like "for few shows".


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 03:15 PM

LOST wasn't "junk".  Second, why would you even consider watching any show out of order?

 

Junk is a subjective term, I understand that You liked it. I do not have enough time or inclination to watch something that Must be watched in order. If the Description is not interesting I skip that episode and watch something that sounds more interesting. I stopped watching Under the Dome last summer for the same reason.

 

The shows I do watch it does not seem to matter that much what order they are watched in. I understand why they write shows like Lost and Under the Dome, They think they have a captive audience that will tune in week after week reliably.

 

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