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#1 OFFLINE   Rich

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 03:46 PM

A friend of mine was recently laid up with a bleeding stomach ulcer.  His doctors told him to stop taking ibuprofen for his shoulder problems.  They are convinced that ibuprofen caused the ulcer. After he told me what he went thru and what the symptoms were, I found that I was having similar symptoms.  The symptom that really bothered me was in my chest.  I felt like my chest was gonna explode (no heart problems) at times .  I stopped taking all pain killers about two months ago and all the symptoms are gone, especially the exploding chest (I don't know how else to explain it) thing.  

 

I almost died from a bleeding stomach ulcer in '83 that was caused by a doctor telling me to take Excedrin for a facial pain that I had and drinking a half gallon of orange juice a day.  So, I was pretty worried.

 

Since I stopped the ibuprofen I've found out what the facial pain that I've been battling for about 40 years or so was.  I had to do this myself, doctors did me no good at all.  I actually used the same troubleshooting methods I had used in my job and taught at a local college.  Arrived at a conclusion and I was right.  The pain that has practically driven me crazy is gone.  It was caused by over the counter nasal congestion sprays and unneeded allergy medications.  Started using a nasal saline spray and got a week's worth of antibiotics from my doctor and ear pain drops.  Pains gone, my doctor's worried about getting sued for malpractice (ain't gonna happen, I like the guy) and I'm happy.

 

If there's a moral to this story it's that stuffing things up your nose and taking unnecessary medications isn't good for you.  

 

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 03:54 PM

We take way to many pills in this country. I take as little as possible.
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Posted 08 July 2014 - 03:59 PM

I came to that conclusion years ago. The only medication I take is baby aspirin, lumigan for the eyes and omeprazole for the stomach. I am 71 and my doctor knows about.

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 04:02 PM

I wish I could have taken a picture of my doctor's face when I told him what I was sure was wrong.  I've been backing off on all my meds as a result.  Perhaps some are good for me and I'll find out the hard way.  

 

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 04:14 PM

I came to that conclusion years ago. The only medication I take is baby aspirin, lumigan for the eyes and omeprazole for the stomach. I am 71 and my doctor knows about.

 

I can't begin to tell you how good (and strange) it feels to be able to rub the right side of my face and feel no pain.  So many years, so many doctors and I finally had to figure it out by myself.  And they don't want you to use the Internet for self diagnosis. Smug, they are.

 

I tried Prilosec, which is omeprazole, and got terrible headaches.  There's a bunch of drugs that are similar to that drug, just a molecule or two difference and most of them gave me headaches.  I finally tried Nexium and that worked without the headaches.  I started taking it because of acid reflux, and I'm not sure I need it anymore. Haven't had any reflux problems since I stopped the ibuprofen.

 

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 06:31 PM

We take way to many pills in this country. I take as little as possible.

 

That and lay off the antibacterial soaps. Of course there are times where a medication is absolutely necessary. No sense doing something stupid and dying from untreated pneumonia, but the overuse of antibiotics is an issue as well.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 06:52 PM

I was told not to take ibuprofen by my doctor after a surgery but I didn't pay attention, I thought it was a bunch of bull or something. I took ibuprofen until I had an ulcer not too long afterwards. Needless to say I wisened up and haven't taken anymore ibuprofen again. I always make sure to take acetaminophen if I have a headache now.



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Posted 08 July 2014 - 07:43 PM

the ONLY OTC pain killer that works on me is Aleve - 2 in the morning and I can cope with the various pains I have (it sucks getting older). I've been taking baby asprin since the studies first came out in the early 90's (I clot superfast - almost upon exposure to air and I can't give blood because I literally clot in the needle while they are trying to get it out). I take relatively few drugs for my diabetes (for now), and a statin for my (now) moderately high cholesteral. When circumstances require - I take a minimum of narcotics (just enough to get the edge off when so prescribed). And my wife is sure to keep my diet pretty healthy (but neither of us is absolutely perfect nor make any effort to be so).


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 08:08 PM

Ibuprofen is an NSAID. So are aspirin, aleve, advil, motrin, naproxen, celebrex etc. etc. These will all tend to cause ulcers and stomach problems if used to excess.

 

The one different common pain reliever is Acetaminophen (Tylenol, paracetamol). It is not an NSAID and doesn't tend to upset your tummy. 

 

It isn't perfect, of course. If you take too much for too long it might wreck your liver and possibly damage your kidneys, particularly if you take it with an alcohol chaser.

 

 


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Posted 08 July 2014 - 08:13 PM

I've always hated taking medicines, but find it necessary to do so. Loratadine for allergies (years ago, I took allergy shots); Furosemide for fluid retention ( I suffer from lymphatic edema), Gabapentin for Restless Leg syndrome, Omeprazole for reflux, a statin for high LDL, acetaminophen for arthritis, Amiodarone for irregular heart beat,Tamsulosin and Finasteride for BPH and of course, a baby aspirin every morning, I also take a multivitamin and a calcium supplement daily. It would be nice to be able to cut back on the meds, but to do so would have a serious effect on my quality of life.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 01:01 AM

Due to my health issues, I take enough of pills to choke a horse.

 

But I don't believe in pain killers. I consider pain to be the body way of telling us to stop what we are doing. That to proceed further will only make the ailment worst.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 05:23 AM

I get headaches mostly at work. I wish I could tell my boss that my body is telling me to stop what I am doing and that to proceed further will only make the ailment worse, but instead I just pop an aspirin and I am almost certain he would tell me to do the same thing.



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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:43 AM

I get headaches mostly at work. I wish I could tell my boss that my body is telling me to stop what I am doing and that to proceed further will only make the ailment worse, but instead I just pop an aspirin and I am almost certain he would tell me to do the same thing.

If you are getting a headache at work and it is not because of physically working too hard and getting hot, etc. it is probably stress. Stress will cause your Blood Pressure to rise. The aspirin is causing the blood to thin out and flow a little bit better.

I used to not believe that stress could raise your Blood Pressure until I had a stroke at the age of 58. I had a desk job for several years before the stroke. I am 70 now and take meds to keep my pressure under control. Back before the stroke I woke up with a headache every morning and took 2 aspirins to make it stop. Now that I am on medicine for my high blood pressure I never get a headache.

 

I have a friend that is borderline for high blood pressure. Hers is stress related also. She walks every day for 2 or 3 miles, eats stuff that is good for you, etc. She will call me after she gets home from work and tell me sometimes she has a headache and what her blood pressure reading is and worry about it. 10 minutes later when she takes it again it will be higher. She is adding to her stress by worrying about it.

I told her that she is just being hard headed and to go to the doctor and get a prescription for a mild blood pressure medicine and just realize it is something she has to do now that she is over 60 and quit worrying about it.

She went and the doctor told her to take the 81mg aspirin each day and gave her a prescription for 5mg of amlodipine each day. Her husband was already taking 10 mg of the same medicine so she felt comfortable taking it.

 

One more very important over the counter medicine, CO-Q10. My son had AFIB and Chronic Heart Failure 3 years ago. His doctor is the Head of UTMB Cardiology department. He said that this distributes the oxygen you breathe thru the blood stream.

If you get a Finger Oximeter you can easily check your own oxygen content in your blood. Just slide it on your finger and turn it on. In a few seconds it will show the percentage. His was 93% and mine was 90%. Anything less than 90% is considered a problem.

Taking 200mg a day has raised his to 99% and mine to 97%.

My mother that is almost 91 was constantly complaining that she could not do anything because she did not have any breath. I sent her an Finger Oximeter ( she lives 1,000 miles from me ) and she checked hers and it was 87. I also sent her 3 bottles of the CO-Q10. She took it everday for a month. Her oxygen level increased to 95% and she no longer complains about being out of breath.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:54 AM

I've always hated taking medicines, but find it necessary to do so. Loratadine for allergies (years ago, I took allergy shots); Furosemide for fluid retention ( I suffer from lymphatic edema), Gabapentin for Restless Leg syndrome, Omeprazole for reflux, a statin for high LDL, acetaminophen for arthritis, Amiodarone for irregular heart beat,Tamsulosin and Finasteride for BPH and of course, a baby aspirin every morning, I also take a multivitamin and a calcium supplement daily. It would be nice to be able to cut back on the meds, but to do so would have a serious effect on my quality of life.

My son had AFIB and Chronic Heart Failure 3 years ago. His heart was fluttering instead of beating. The output of each beat was only 10%. It should be a minimum of 35%. They gave him 3.125mg of Coreg 2 times per day and his heart instantly started to beating correctly.

His output per beat is now up to 37%. The technical term for this is the Ejection Fraction.

He has taken the Gabapentin for leg pain and says it makes him very sleepy , especially when taken with some of the other things .

 Have you tried Zanaflex for your Restless legs ? He takes this for muscle cramps and it works very well and does not make him near as sleepy. I have read that it is good for the restless legs also.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 08:30 AM

Ibuprofen is an NSAID. So are aspirin, aleve, advil, motrin, naproxen, celebrex etc. etc. These will all tend to cause ulcers and stomach problems if used to excess.

 

The one different common pain reliever is Acetaminophen (Tylenol, paracetamol). It is not an NSAID and doesn't tend to upset your tummy. 

 

It isn't perfect, of course. If you take too much for too long it might wreck your liver and possibly damage your kidneys, particularly if you take it with an alcohol chaser.

Aspirin and Ibuprofen will definitely make your stomach bleed. If you take an Aspirin, get the ones that are coated, they dissolve slower and a little bit further down the line. The drawback is of course that it takes longer for it to take effect for pain.

 

Tylenol doesn't appear to do this. However, it will stop up your sewer pipe if you take too much of it.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:04 AM

Due to my health issues, I take enough of pills to choke a horse.

 

But I don't believe in pain killers. I consider pain to be the body way of telling us to stop what we are doing. That to proceed further will only make the ailment worst.

 

There is a point to this, but also a place for pain killers.


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Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:22 AM

That and lay off the antibacterial soaps. Of course there are times where a medication is absolutely necessary. No sense doing something stupid and dying from untreated pneumonia, but the overuse of antibiotics is an issue as well.

 

Yup, people don't realize what antibiotics do to your stomach functions.  

 

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:40 AM

I was told not to take ibuprofen by my doctor after a surgery but I didn't pay attention, I thought it was a bunch of bull or something. I took ibuprofen until I had an ulcer not too long afterwards. Needless to say I wisened up and haven't taken anymore ibuprofen again. I always make sure to take acetaminophen if I have a headache now.

 

Watch that stuff, you'll have kidney problems if you use too much.  Last year, I was told by my surgeon to take ibuprofen since I refused to take oxy after surgery.  He told me to take all I wanted to, it can't hurt you.  This guy is a highly regarded surgeon and did a beautiful job on me, but knowing what I know about ibuprofen now, I'm surprised he told me that.  So, I won't take acetaminophen or ibuprofen or Aleve (that stuff made me sick right away).  

 

Been a couple months since I've taken any painkillers and I've found that if I drink a couple 24 oz. bottles of water and take a lot of deep breaths, the headaches go away.  I think headaches are an indicator of something else wrong with your body.

 

I am using a topical pain killer (ear drops) to help alleviate any facial pain until I get back home and can get to a specialist and, hopefully, put this problem that has plagued me for so many years to rest.  X-rays show nothing wrong with my sinuses, but my doctor suggested that a specialist might be able to find a polyp or something.  As usual, my doctor is baffled.

 

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:42 AM

the ONLY OTC pain killer that works on me is Aleve - 2 in the morning and I can cope with the various pains I have (it sucks getting older). I've been taking baby asprin since the studies first came out in the early 90's (I clot superfast - almost upon exposure to air and I can't give blood because I literally clot in the needle while they are trying to get it out). I take relatively few drugs for my diabetes (for now), and a statin for my (now) moderately high cholesteral. When circumstances require - I take a minimum of narcotics (just enough to get the edge off when so prescribed). And my wife is sure to keep my diet pretty healthy (but neither of us is absolutely perfect nor make any effort to be so).

 

Felt terrible the only time I tried Aleve.  Felt awful all day long until it finally wore off.

 

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 09:43 AM

Yup, people don't realize what antibiotics do to your stomach functions.  

 

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True, but my bigger concern is the bacteria we do want to kill becoming resistant to them.






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