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#1 OFFLINE   Athlon646464

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 06:05 AM

ACA urges FCC to make DirecTV and Dish pay regulatory fees
 
(FierceCable.com) - The American Cable Association is petitioning the Federal Communications Commission to impose regulatory fees on DBS providers DirecTV and Dish Network equal to those currently charged to cable providers.
 
Currently, DirecTV and Dish pay less burdensome regulatory fees as satellite operators, which amount to about 6 cents per every subscriber, according to the ACA....
 
 
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 06:29 AM

GREAT here we go with more fees. Just what we need.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 06:56 AM

The ACA is looking for a easy out rather than making their service more competitive.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:41 AM

ACA, NABA, MPAA, RIAA, BSA, AARP

 

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 08:55 AM

Post-merger, perhaps AT&T will end up having to pay the "cable" fee for all Directv customers anyway, depending on how the law is written.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:52 AM

The ACA is looking for a easy out rather than making their service more competitive.

I'm not sure how what you're saying makes sense.  The FCC charges these fees and they charge less to DBS than they do to cable.  The ACA is basically just asking the FCC to level the playing field with regard to the fees that the FCC charges.  This has nothing to do with these companies making themselves more competitive.  The only way the cable companies can really do that... is if they pay the same fees as the DBS companies.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:59 AM

They should add a BWC  Because We Can fees.


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:26 AM

ACA urges FCC to make DirecTV and Dish pay regulatory fees
 
(FierceCable.com) - The American Cable Association is petitioning the Federal Communications Commission to impose regulatory fees on DBS providers DirecTV and Dish Network equal to those currently charged to cable providers.

The fee has to be for something. The ACA needs to tell us why (other than competitive reasons).

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:33 AM

It's a dollar, they don't tell us anything!


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:35 AM

I'm not sure how what you're saying makes sense. The FCC charges these fees and they charge less to DBS than they do to cable. The ACA is basically just asking the FCC to level the playing field with regard to the fees that the FCC charges. This has nothing to do with these companies making themselves more competitive. The only way the cable companies can really do that... is if they pay the same fees as the DBS companies.

Agree, and we are talking about $1
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:36 AM

The fee has to be for something. The ACA needs to tell us why (other than competitive reasons).


It's an government agency. I am sure they will find a way to spend it. :)
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:38 PM

The fee has to be for something. The ACA needs to tell us why (other than competitive reasons).

I don't think this makes sense either.  They need to explain why they don't want to be charged more by the government than their competition?  Really?  I think it's pretty self-evident.  The FCC charges DBS providers less than they charge cable companies... even though they're supposed to be in the same business.  I think it's incumbent on the FCC to explain why, after they've worked to try to level the playing field in other regards, they charge cable companies more.  In fact, I would go further - there are legal requirements on cable companies that don't exist against other similar types of providers.  If the FCC is interested in trying to create a more level playing field then they need to justify why one sector of the industry deserves to pay more than the other sectors.  BTW, I'm not advocating that the FCC raise the DBS fees.  I think they should lower them (hell, eliminate them) across the board.  And yeah, it's only a dollar... but it's a dollar per subscriber.  How many households have cable/satellite?  100 million?  Wonder why the FCC charges that fee...


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 04:20 PM

Do you know why they put all those restrictions and charges on cable companies and did not on Satellite companies?  There is good reason that cable companies or more heavily regulated in some ways than Satellite companies are, and I see no reason that Sat companies should have to pay the same as cable companies since they are so much harder to control than Sat companies. 



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

One nugget to get out there, and I don't know if it applies to the conversation here... but since it might.

 

Be careful about "FCC fees"... because there are fees that show up on utility bills that are labeled as an "FCC" fee that are nothing of the kind.  I went through this with a phone company many years ago where they insisted that the FCC "required" them to charge a particular fee.  A little digging, and talking with the FCC... and the truth was, the phone company wanted to charge a fee and they wanted to charge more BUT the FCC said "no, we will allow you to charge your customers for this thing you have deemed necessary but your fee cannot exceed $5"... so in truth, it was purely a phone company fee but they didn't like the FCC putting a cap on what they could charge, so they called it a "FCC Access Fee" or some other such nonsense.

 

That said...

 

Any actual regulatory fees charged to satellite or cable,  might necessarily be different because of the ways these companies operate.  For the most part Dish and DirecTV do not have a significant presence in most of the states where they provide service.  Whereas the cable company does have significant presence everything that they provide service.  It stands to reason that this would result in more regulation of the cable company than a satellite company.

 

It's a whole different discussion IF someone brings up a problem that further regulation might help OR reducing regulation might help... but I can't say off-hand that both companies should be regulated the same.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 09:49 AM

We need to be certain that these "fees" that we're talking about are what we think they are.

I suspect that what the ACA (and NCTA) is after is recovery on their franchise fees, not some mystery fee that is being charged by a state or federal government. Franchise fees are fees that the cablecos pay for their exclusive rights to operate in a jurisdiction as well as the "rent" on passage of their transmission lines through public rights-of-way.

There is no analog to franchising for satellite.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 09:52 AM

Be careful about "FCC fees"... because there are fees that show up on utility bills that are labeled as an "FCC" fee that are nothing of the kind.  I went through this with a phone company many years ago where they insisted that the FCC "required" them to charge a particular fee.

I've known about these "cost recovery fees" from the beginning and I'm still not happy about it. You're right about the companies lying through their teeth about them being required. I get that pitch all the time from sales weasels. I have to remind them that most of these fees are "allowed" as opposed to "mandated".

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 10:14 PM

I suspect that what the ACA (and NCTA) is after is recovery on their franchise fees, not some mystery fee that is being charged by a state or federal government.


You suspect incorrectly. As clearly stated in the article: "Currently, cable operators pay a regulatory fee to the FCC of about $1 per subscriber--a charge that dropped from around $1.02 per sub in 2013, when the FCC started charging Internet protocol TV (IPTV) operators regulatory fees."

They are talking about a fee charged by the federal government, not local franchise fees.
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Posted 14 July 2014 - 05:13 AM



You suspect incorrectly. As clearly stated in the article: "Currently, cable operators pay a regulatory fee to the FCC of about $1 per subscriber--a charge that dropped from around $1.02 per sub in 2013, when the FCC started charging Internet protocol TV (IPTV) operators regulatory fees."

They are talking about a fee charged by the federal government, not local franchise fees.


Our cable TV services have FCC and Local franchise Fees.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 07:37 AM

Satellite and cable have always been regulated differently, not saying that it is good but it's true. Just look at the rules that satellite has to deal with when it comes to locals that cable doesn't have to deal with. So sure if your going to "level the playing field" then lets not just look at fees but also the regulations themselves, after all cable companies don't have to worry about DMA's and where those lines are drawn, they're allowed to offer any locals that make sense for the area they serve.




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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:10 AM



Satellite and cable have always been regulated differently, , after all cable companies don't have to worry about DMA's and where those lines are drawn, they're allowed to offer any locals that make sense for the area they serve.

They are tightening their belts on those DMA rules even with cable.
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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:32 PM

Our cable TV services have FCC and Local franchise Fees.

Our Internet has none of these fees.

 

 

 

 

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I wouldn't say that too  loud   :nono2:


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:14 AM

Update: FCC Proposes Per-Sub DBS Fee
 
(broadcastingcable.com) - "In this Further Notice we propose to adopt a new fee category for DBS, based on the Media Bureau FTEs [full-time employees] which perform work related to these regulatees," the FCC said. "DBS providers are similar to cable operators and IPTV providers because DBS providers offer multi-channel video programming to end-users," the FCC points out. Despite this similarity, DBS providers do not pay the per-subscriber regulatory fee assessed on cable operators and IPTV providers based on Media Bureau FTE regulation....
 
 
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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:26 AM

Our cable TV services have FCC and Local franchise Fees.

Our Internet has none of these fees.

 

Internet Service Charges are tax free under Federal Law.  See http://en.wikipedia....Tax_Freedom_Act  However, that law expires November 1st, 2014.  They are looking at making that permanent as the House has passed a bill to make it permanent http://en.wikipedia....113th_Congress) , however the Senate has not acted on it yet.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 03:27 PM

There is another example of the federal Goverment getting to big. Why can't they just leave us alone.

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Posted 04 September 2014 - 02:40 AM

We need to be certain that these "fees" that we're talking about are what we think they are.I suspect that what the ACA (and NCTA) is after is recovery on their franchise fees, not some mystery fee that is being charged by a state or federal government. Franchise fees are fees that the cablecos pay for their exclusive rights to operate in a jurisdiction as well as the "rent" on passage of their transmission lines through public rights-of-way.There is no analog to franchising for satellite.


The fees in question are charges levied against a regulated industry to partially recover the cost of the agency's enforcement. IOW, the regulated firms pay the government to enforce the regulations. (It is based upon the number of hours employees spend on regulatory issues related to the industry.)

The real point is that everyone already pays for this now...it is financed from the Federal Budget, so your taxes pay for it now. These fees would reduce the FCC's draw from the budget.

So pay it one way or another...but sooner or later we all pay.

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