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#41 OFFLINE   tampa8



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Posted 19 July 2014 - 10:25 PM

1. DISH does not want to provide Distants even for RV's. Nothing else matters beyond that.


2. Comparing Superstations to Distants makes no sense, to begin with they are in SD only. (One can be seen in HD only if you are in the spotbeam of the local HD version) But even at that, Superstations are no longer offered unless grandfathered because DISH will likely be ending those at sometime too.


3. DISH is making plans to end duplication because more bandwidth is needed for sports and other HD offerings. It appears some locals will only be on one ARC that are presently on two. The last thing DISH wants to do is use bandwidth for HD Distants, that for all purposes only RV's are allowed to get anyway.


4. KyL416 covered the Canadian law well, simply it is more restrictive not less.


5. AAD did not and could not give everyone DISTANTS, it is against the law and they would have been shut down. You had to at least give them a service address that qualified for some or all networks. The only way it works is an AAD situation where the carrier does not provide your locals. KyL416 also covered that well.


If someone wants a different set of locals there are ways of doing it. There are at least two online sites that provide the four networks, one from NY the other from Pittsburgh I think. I get a very good picture watching the Tampa locals when I am in Ct using my slingbox that gets OTA, no Cable/Satellite is even needed. If you really want a specific set of locals that you want to watch often, find someone to let you set up a slingbox.

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#42 OFFLINE   tampa8



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Posted 19 July 2014 - 10:31 PM

Your freedom to watch what you want ends with the content owner's freedom to control its product.


You can live wherever you want... except you can't... if someone else already lives there.


If a channel is available to be viewed, then you have the freedom to view it IF you can receive it.  Put up an antenna and pull it in if you are within range of the broadcast signal.  If you aren't within range, that's where your freedom ends.


Canadians don't even have that freedom when it comes to Satellite, It is illegal to receive US Stations.

"The Radiocommunication Act Section 9(1)©: "No person shall…decode an encrypted subscription programming signal or encrypted network feed otherwise than under and in accordance with an authorization from the lawful distributor of the signal or feed"

The Supreme Court determined (in 2002, this isn't recent) that US Satellite TV providers are not "lawful distributors" in Canada under the act, therefore there is no one who can actually authorize you to decode a US sourced satellite signal in Canada."

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 12:22 AM

It is illegal for US residents to receive Canadian and other out of country signals via satellite ... but the law as written is esoteric and generally not enforced on an individual level. The law is based on licenses to receive satellite signals ... there are only a selection of satellites that one can receive without a license. In instances where DISH relies on a Canadian (129, 72.7) or Mexican (77) licensed satellite DISH holds a blanket license for their customers to receive those signals.

Canada enforces their laws. Spot a dish with the wrong logo and a mounty will come knocking. (And no, we don't need any reports from scofflaws, whether U.S. or elswhere bragging about their illegal reception and getting their DBSTalk accounts suspended or closed. We don't support illegal reception.)

Back to this thread ... Don't blame the courts. Don't forget that SCOTUS ruled against retransmission being protected by copyright - it was Congress that rewrote copyright law and forced the issue. (Unless one is going to claim that TV retransmission is some sort of constitutional right. :rolleyes: )

Congress has written exceptions to the copyright law that allow for statutory licensing for distants and superstations. Permissive parts of the law that if removed or expired would end retransmission of those signals.
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