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Internal and External Drive Interaction on Genie HR-44


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#26 ONLINE   RunnerFL

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:36 PM

Yeah, now I remember that.  Which 44 was it?  Not that I have any intention of getting one, but you never know.  

 

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I know it's at least the HR44-500 but I believe there was another HR44 that this happens with as well.


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#27 OFFLINE   Rich

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 02:48 PM

Yet another reason not to bother with them.  Oh well...

 

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:19 PM

Rich I can't think of a single reason to stick with HR24 x anything over a hr44 anything. Not one reason. Sadly you can replace all your units woth them. At least not yet.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 07:15 AM

Rich I can't think of a single reason to stick with HR24 x anything over a hr44 anything. Not one reason. Sadly you can replace all your units woth them. At least not yet.

 

I can think of lots of reasons, but I'm not gonna go into it on the open forum.

 

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 01:05 PM

This seems to be the most recent thread discussing adding an external HDD to a HR44 so I thought I might run the below setup by you folks. There is an older, longer thread but it doesn't seem to have had any activity for quite some time.

 

Anyway, thinking of the below,

 

putting one of these,

 

 http://www.amazon.co...d=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

in one of these,

 

http://www.amazon.co...d=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

I think I read somewhere that the blue LEDs can be disabled which is something I definitely would plan to do.

 

I chose the RED model at it's supposedly designed to work in an NAS environment where the drive would likely stay spinning all the time, something I think a DVR application would be happy with.

 

So does the above sound like a good workable combo with the HR44? And if I don't really need the RED can anyone recommend a different model?

 

Thanks



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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:24 PM

While the Red drive will probably work, in your single drive config the most appropriate choice would be one of the AV drives, like a WD Purple drive or a Seagate SV35.  They are optimized for 24/7 video recording and playback, and are a bit quieter.  Price is about the same.

 

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 11:53 AM

While the Red drive will probably work, in your single drive config the most appropriate choice would be one of the AV drives, like a WD Purple drive or a Seagate SV35.  They are optimized for 24/7 video recording and playback, and are a bit quieter.  Price is about the same.

 

Keith

Yes, and apparently the WD Green AV drives are good as well. I've used the WD Greens in 3 different TiVos used for Comcast and they've all been fine but the Red caught my eye due to it's spec as a "commercial" style AV drive. 

 

Thanks for the tips on the WD Purple and the Seagate.



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 12:37 PM

Yes, and apparently the WD Green AV drives are good as well. I've used the WD Greens in 3 different TiVos used for Comcast and they've all been fine but the Red caught my eye due to it's spec as a "commercial" style AV drive. 

 

Thanks for the tips on the WD Purple and the Seagate.

 

I've got WD Green drives on/in most of my HRs and they seem to be trouble free.  

 

Rich



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Posted 04 August 2014 - 02:28 PM

I've got WD Green drives on/in most of my HRs and they seem to be trouble free.  

 

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Thanks, since the Green is less expensive so I'll probably go with it.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 09:57 AM

Thanks, since the Green is less expensive so I'll probably go with it.

 

I'd also go for a more expensive enclosure.  You might try this one:  Link.  I haven't seen any negative posts about it.  Seems dependable and quiet.  

 

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 11:12 AM

I'd also go for a more expensive enclosure.  You might try this one:  Link.  I haven't seen any negative posts about it.  Seems dependable and quiet.  

 

Rich

That does look like a nice enclosure, as long as those double fans really are quiet. My original choice will be here today though so I'll see how it goes with that one, if the fan is noisy or the build quality is lacking I likely will go for the Thermaltake.

 

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 11:45 AM

That does look like a nice enclosure, as long as those double fans really are quiet. My original choice will be here today though so I'll see how it goes with that one, if the fan is noisy or the build quality is lacking I likely will go for the Thermaltake.

 

Thanks

 

If you're worried about noise (the link I sent you is supposed to be very quiet), you might want to try a TT dock.  The only way to get noise out of one of them is to put a noisy HDD in it.  Here's a link to the dock.  Don't worry about the exposed part of the HDD, dust is also not a factor as it is in all the fan enclosures.  The dock is plug and play.  No tools needed.

 

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 12:43 PM

If you're worried about noise (the link I sent you is supposed to be very quiet), you might want to try a TT dock.  The only way to get noise out of one of them is to put a noisy HDD in it.  Here's a link to the dock.  Don't worry about the exposed part of the HDD, dust is also not a factor as it is in all the fan enclosures.  The dock is plug and play.  No tools needed.

 

Rich

Yes, I've seen those and they are also an interesting alternative. I'm hoping the Sabrent does the job but if not I've certainly got some excellent options to choose from, thanks!



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 04:32 PM

Well, the Sabrent fan is much too noisy for a DVR expander type of application, and both Thermaltakes seem to be limited to 2TB drives so I'm in the hunt still for a suitable enclosure.



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 04:54 PM

Well, the Sabrent fan is much too noisy for a DVR expander type of application, and both Thermaltakes seem to be limited to 2TB drives so I'm in the hunt still for a suitable enclosure.

Maybe I should ask, a 3TB drive(external) is doable with the HR44-500 isn't it?


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 07:27 PM

Maybe I should ask, a 3TB drive(external) is doable with the HR44-500 isn't it?

 

Yes


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:16 AM

Well, the Sabrent fan is much too noisy for a DVR expander type of application, and both Thermaltakes seem to be limited to 2TB drives so I'm in the hunt still for a suitable enclosure.

 

I'm pretty sure both the TT enclosure and the TT dock will support a 3TB drive.  No matter what the specs on them say.

 

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:55 AM

Yes

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:01 AM

Thanks!

 

I think he's tested the 44s at over 10TBs.  Using RAID boxes.

 

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 10:09 AM

I think he's tested the 44s at over 10TBs.  Using RAID boxes.

 

Rich

That is a lot of storage!

 

That Thermaltake enclosure you linked to earlier was the USB 3.0 model, I'm assuming you meant to link to the eSATA model and that it likely supports 3TB drives as well?



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:06 AM

That is a lot of storage!

 

That Thermaltake enclosure you linked to earlier was the USB 3.0 model, I'm assuming you meant to link to the eSATA model and that it likely supports 3TB drives as well?

 

Yeah, I fixed the link.  Didn't even know they made a straight USB enclosure.  Stupid mistake, sorry.

 

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:08 AM

That is a lot of storage!

 

That Thermaltake enclosure you linked to earlier was the USB 3.0 model, I'm assuming you meant to link to the eSATA model and that it likely supports 3TB drives as well?

 

Yes, it is.  Way too much for a unit that you know is gonna fail sometime.  He was only testing.  I think he's got 3 or 4 TBs on it now.  

 

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:17 AM

Yes, it is.  Way too much for a unit that you know is gonna fail sometime.  He was only testing.  I think he's got 3 or 4 TBs on it now.  

 

Rich

Yes, that makes sense, I'm even thinking that 3 TB might be too much for my use given possible failure and/or non-use of all the space. But the cost per GB is just better the larger you go and it can always be used to store data in a computer situation. I'm going to roll with the Thermaltake for a few weeks and if no problems develop I'll likely just leave it as is. 



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:31 PM

It's. Hard to convince if you don't have basic knowledge. The "hybrid OS" is that factor. Plus total irrelevance of your post based on hr20 experience while posting in dedicated HR44 thread. Read about Linux in the DVRs...

 

Puh-leese.

 

What might be "totally irrelevant" is someone who has significant difficulty composing the simplest sentence in English, posting in a dedicated English-speaking thread. It's a DTV DVR forum. In English.

 

And I would be pretty surprised if the 44 were not simply an outgrowth of earlier DVRs in the same family, and I'm pretty sure that they did not build it from scratch using a different vision. It does virtually the same job, plus an additional tuner or two, with the single add-on of supporting a client, using a mildly custom version of the same OS. The basics still apply, and since I don't see you listed as a mod, I don't think you have the authority to hall-monitor the rest of us regarding some imaginary rules you have dreamed up. There probably hasn't been a DVR that was not Linux, so I also don't need you lecturing me on that or anything else. And actually, I have probably already forgotten more about the subject than you might ever hope to know or understand.


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:57 PM

I think he's tested the 44s at over 10TBs.  Using RAID boxes.

 

Rich

 

I maxed out my testing using 12TB RAID0.  :)


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