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Should Jeter be the first player to get elected to the Hall of Fame unanimously?


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#1 OFFLINE   Rich

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 10:21 AM

I'll save my comments for later, but I'd sure like to hear some opinions on this.  Nobody has ever been voted in unanimously.  Does Jeter really deserve this major honor?

 

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 10:43 AM

At one time, it was considered taboo for voters to vote for anyone in his first year of eligibility.  Jeter is an ordinary, first ballot Hall-of-Famer who has enjoyed the good fortune of playing his entire career in New York... and of being white. If the rules were changed and I could only vote for one player each year, I'd vote for Mariano Rivera before I'd vote for Jeter.


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 10:47 AM

I seriously doubt that Jeter will be voted in unanimously. I'm not a Yankee fan, but I'm not one of the voters either.


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 10:52 AM

The sport writer are waiting for the coming of Jesus before they vote unanimously for a player on the first ballot. :) The one problem I have always had with the process is the waiting for years for some of the players to get in. To me a player is either a Hall of Famers or not.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 11:56 AM

I'll save my comments for later, but I'd sure like to hear some opinions on this.  Nobody has ever been voted in unanimously.  Does Jeter really deserve this major honor?

 

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There are too many Yankee haters in the media. There are also too many anti-NYC members in the media for any New York player to get an unanimously vote.


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:09 PM

At one time, it was considered taboo for voters to vote for anyone in his first year of eligibility.  Jeter is an ordinary, first ballot Hall-of-Famer who has enjoyed the good fortune of playing his entire career in New York... and of being white. If the rules were changed and I could only vote for one player each year, I'd vote for Mariano Rivera before I'd vote for Jeter.


Not sure what his race has to do with anything, but for accuracy's sake, he is biracial.
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:38 PM

At one time, it was considered taboo for voters to vote for anyone in his first year of eligibility.  Jeter is an ordinary, first ballot Hall-of-Famer who has enjoyed the good fortune of playing his entire career in New York... and of being white. If the rules were changed and I could only vote for one player each year, I'd vote for Mariano Rivera before I'd vote for Jeter.

Being white? As in his race? He's mixed... black and white. Here's his parents -

 

 

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:51 PM

I'll save my comments for later, but I'd sure like to hear some opinions on this.  Nobody has ever been voted in unanimously.  Does Jeter really deserve this major honor?

 

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In a word No!

 

First ballot HOF for sure but plenty of players far far better than Jeter have failed to be voted in unanimously.


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:53 PM

IMO, it doesn't matter once you're in the HOF.  Unanimously or not, he's a HOFer.


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:18 PM

In a word No!

 

First ballot HOF for sure but plenty of players far far better than Jeter have failed to be voted in unanimously.

 

Agree. There's no bigger Jeter fan than me, but I'd be shocked if he was a unanimous choice. I'd also be shocked if he wasn't voted in on the first ballot.


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 04:38 PM

I'm a Met fan and a Yankee hater, but Derek Jeter is one class act on and off the field. One helluva ballplayer. Unanimous all the way.


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 05:10 PM

The sport writer are waiting for the coming of Jesus before they vote unanimously for a player on the first ballot. :) The one problem I have always had with the process is the waiting for years for some of the players to get in. To me a player is either a Hall of Famers or not.

The five year wait is to prevent emotional voting.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 05:49 PM

The five year wait is to prevent emotional voting.


I could have explain better. That is what I meant.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 06:03 PM

I don't even think he's a first ballot HOF player.  Maybe third.  He played during the wrong era.  I honestly don't think anybody who played during any part of the steroid era will be a first ballot HOF player.



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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:10 PM

The sport writer are waiting for the coming of Jesus before they vote unanimously for a player on the first ballot. :) The one problem I have always had with the process is the waiting for years for some of the players to get in. To me a player is either a Hall of Famers or not.


Certainly not Montero :)

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:28 AM

Agree. There's no bigger Jeter fan than me, but I'd be shocked if he was a unanimous choice. I'd also be shocked if he wasn't voted in on the first ballot.

 

That would shock me too.  I still haven't heard the comment I'm waiting for.  

 

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:31 AM

That would shock me too.  I still haven't heard the comment I'm waiting for.  

 

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The knock on his fielding?

 

Comparison to Cal?


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:33 AM

I don't even think he's a first ballot HOF player.  Maybe third.  He played during the wrong era.  I honestly don't think anybody who played during any part of the steroid era will be a first ballot HOF player.

 

You don't seriously think he took PEDs, do you?  Take a good look at him throughout his career, look at the pictures.  He still has the same body type he had in when he broke in.  I've stood a few feet away from him on several occasions and he shows no sign of ever using PEDs.  

 

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:43 AM

That would shock me too.  I still haven't heard the comment I'm waiting for.  
 
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If you think that Jeter is the greatest player in the history of baseball than why not. I do know that he be getting into the players hall of fame in the first round.

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:45 AM

The knock on his fielding?

 

Comparison to Cal?

 

Having watched the Yankees since 1948, I can truthfully say he's the best SS the Yankees had during that time.  I should say the best "all around" SS the Yanks had during that period.  To play that position for 20 years on the same team is really something.  

 

Comparison to Cal?  No. I do know he was pretty special too.  You really have to know how big a Yankees fan I am.  When we were looking at siding a few years ago, we tried to find pinstriped white siding.  If we had found it and had it installed, I would have had the interlocking NY painted on the siding in the front of my house.  Couldn't find the siding.  I know you're a big Yankees fan too.  

 

Still not the comment I want to hear.

 

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:47 AM

If you think that Jeter is the greatest player in the history of baseball than why not. I do know that he be getting into the players hall of fame in the first round.

 

You could not be more wrong, my friend.

 

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:59 AM

Twenty question is up Rich. What is the answer? :)
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Posted 31 July 2014 - 10:09 AM

Twenty question is up Rich. What is the answer? :)

 

Still waiting for what I think is the correct answer.  I'm surprised nobody has come up with it yet.  

 

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 10:15 AM

If you think that Jeter is the greatest player in the history of baseball than why not. I do know that he be getting into the players hall of fame in the first round.

 

I think he deserves to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.  No doubt in my mind about that.  Thing is, I don't think he was the best ballplayer on any of the teams he played on.  I think the people that vote for the MVP were right in never naming him an MVP.  

 

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 11:19 AM

I think he deserves to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.  No doubt in my mind about that.  Thing is, I don't think he was the best ballplayer on any of the teams he played on.  I think the people that vote for the MVP were right in never naming him an MVP.  

 

Excellent point.

 

Having watched the Yankees since 1948, I can truthfully say he's the best SS the Yankees had during that time.  I should say the best "all around" SS the Yanks had during that period.  To play that position for 20 years on the same team is really something.

I think the best fielding shortstop in Yankees history was someone who never actually played shortstop for them. A-Rod may be an A-Hole, but he sure could pick it when he played short for the Mariners and Rangers.

 

First Yanks' shortstop I vividly remember watching play was Kubek, during the '60 World Series. Maz. Adams apple. Ouch.


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