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#1 OFFLINE   psywzrd

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 02:13 PM

So DirecTV is coming out to my house next week to replace my 2 HR21-100s with a Genie and a Genie Mini (assuming that's a smart move on my part but please let me know if I'm wrong).  Anyway, I have numerous recordings on each of these receivers that I have already watched but that I would like to save if at all possible. I understand that I will not be able to transfer these recordings to the Genie, and I also would prefer to not have to merely record them onto a DVD-R in SD.

 

What options (if any) do I have if I want to preserve them in HD if at all possible?  I have a MacBook if that makes any difference.



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 02:17 PM

In regards to the client, basically, you'd be adding a tuner overall, but only when the client is not in use, and all recordings will be on a single box instead of two.



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 02:55 PM

So DirecTV is coming out to my house next week to replace my 2 HR21-100s with a Genie and a Genie Mini (assuming that's a smart move on my part but please let me know if I'm wrong). 

IMO, the biggest potential issue with a pure Genie / Client environment is that, if the Genie dies for any reason, you will lose all TV at your home until it is replaced.  If you had a second DVR or a receiver instead of the client, at least you'd be able to watch TV using that box until the Genie is replaced.

 

When I got my Genie, I had an HR20 and two HR21's.  The installer agreed to replace the two DVR's that I was keeping with faster HR24's.



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 03:04 PM

IMO, the biggest potential issue with a pure Genie / Client environment is that, if the Genie dies for any reason, you will lose all TV at your home until it is replaced.  If you had a second DVR or a receiver instead of the client, at least you'd be able to watch TV using that box until the Genie is replaced.

 

When I got my Genie, I had an HR20 and two HR21's.  The installer agreed to replace the two DVR's that I was keeping with faster HR24's.

Hadn't thought about that.  So would you recommend asking the tech to just give me the Genie and replace one of the HR21s with a faster DVR?  If so, would I be losing any capablities that the Genie mini would give me?



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 03:06 PM

 

 

What options (if any) do I have if I want to preserve them in HD if at all possible?  I have a MacBook if that makes any difference.

Since you have a MB, you probably want to look at El Gato products.  EyeHD TV  will allow you to record on HD inn real time


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 03:08 PM

Hadn't thought about that.  So would you recommend asking the tech to just give me the Genie and replace one of the HR21s with a faster DVR?  If so, would I be losing any capablities that the Genie mini would give me?

First, you may have to ask the tech ni$ely if he could replace your old clunky HR21 with an HR24, he does not have to.  The  only thing you may loose is the ability to manage the Genie from the second TV is.  IMO, having a Genie and an DVR instead of a mini is the way to go 


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 03:10 PM

Since you have a MB, you probably want to look at El Gato products.  EyeHD TV  will allow you to record on HD inn real time

 

So basically component out from the HR21s to the EyeTV HD connected to my MB (connected how?) and then simply play the recordings and capture them in HD on my computer?



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 03:43 PM

First, you may have to ask the tech ni$ely if he could replace your old clunky HR21 with an HR24, he does not have to.  The  only thing you may loose is the ability to manage the Genie from the second TV is.  IMO, having a Genie and an DVR instead of a mini is the way to go 

 So I'd lose the ability to access the Genie from the second TV?  That would seem to be a pretty big negative, no?



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 03:51 PM

You can access the Genie recordings and delete them from another DVR (using the Whole Home feature) but you can't manage the Genie- set up new recordings etc You can do that from the Genie mini (client) because it's really an extension of the Genie, it uses a Genie tuner. Many people are nervous about having only the Genie plus client(s) because everything is dependent on the Genie, the mini client won't work without it, so if the Genie develops a fault you are dead in the water.



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 03:55 PM

Basically, trade one DVR (the one with fewer programs you want to keep) for a Genie.  Keep the other DVR if it has shows you really want.  If you're not concerned about keeping any shows, you might get to trade for a faster HR24.  Don't count on that trade happening, though.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 03:56 PM

You can access the Genie recordings and delete them from another DVR (using the Whole Home feature) but you can't manage the Genie- set up new recordings etc You can do that from the Genie mini (client) because it's really an extension of the Genie, it uses a Genie tuner. Many people are nervous about having only the Genie plus client(s) because everything is dependent on the Genie, the mini client won't work without it, so if the Genie develops a fault you are dead in the water.

 

Ah - I think I understand now.  The HD DVR will simply give me full access to the recordings on the Genie while the Genie Mini will give me that plus the ability to set up recordings, do PIP, have access to five tuners, change settings on the Genie, etc.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 07:21 PM

, do PIP, have access to five tuners, change settings on the Genie, etc.

No PIP on mini. With a DVR you will have access to tuners instead of 5


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 08:02 PM

No PIP on mini. With a DVR you will have access to tuners instead of 5

I assume you were going to say 7 there?

 

Also, as far as the EyeTV HD goes, I think it may be overkill for what I need.  Could I just get a video capture card in order to capture these recording from my HR21s on my Mac?  I don't really need the DVR capabilities of the EyeTV so I'd hate to pay more than necessary for what I'm looking to do.



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 08:05 PM

So DirecTV is coming out to my house next week to replace my 2 HR21-100s with a Genie and a Genie Mini (assuming that's a smart move on my part but please let me know if I'm wrong).  Anyway, I have numerous recordings on each of these receivers that I have already watched but that I would like to save if at all possible. I understand that I will not be able to transfer these recordings to the Genie, and I also would prefer to not have to merely record them onto a DVD-R in SD.

 

What options (if any) do I have if I want to preserve them in HD if at all possible?  I have a MacBook if that makes any difference.

 

For a new two year year commitment, you're not gaining anything.

 

I would kill the Mini & keep one of your HR21.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 08:32 PM

I assume you were going to say 7 there?  YES

 

Also, as far as the EyeTV HD goes, I think it may be overkill for what I need.  Could I just get a video capture card in order to capture these recording from my HR21s on my Mac?  I don't really need the DVR capabilities of the EyeTV so I'd hate to pay more than necessary for what I'm looking to do.

Look on eBay, I bought mine for $79.00 shipped!


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:50 PM

Look on eBay, I bought mine for $79.00 shipped!

That's a great deal!!!  I'd jump all over it if I found a deal like that.  I'm not really seeing any great deals on one right now, and I'm also not finding any video capture devices that will do what I need them to do.  Seems like I may just have to bite the bullet and buy one of these things for $160 or so. 



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 04:36 PM

That's a great deal!!!  I'd jump all over it if I found a deal like that.  I'm not really seeing any great deals on one right now, and I'm also not finding any video capture devices that will do what I need them to do.  Seems like I may just have to bite the bullet and buy one of these things for $160 or so. 

Here is the listing 

 

http://bit.ly/1mnuKn8 

 

you have to keep looking.


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:43 PM

In regards to the client, basically, you'd be adding a tuner overall, but only when the client is not in use, and all recordings will be on a single box instead of two.


No he's adding a tuner period no matter what's going on.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:44 PM

So DirecTV is coming out to my house next week to replace my 2 HR21-100s with a Genie and a Genie Mini (assuming that's a smart move on my part but please let me know if I'm wrong). Anyway, I have numerous recordings on each of these receivers that I have already watched but that I would like to save if at all possible. I understand that I will not be able to transfer these recordings to the Genie, and I also would prefer to not have to merely record them onto a DVD-R in SD.

What options (if any) do I have if I want to preserve them in HD if at all possible? I have a MacBook if that makes any difference.


I think you are doing exactly what you should do. It's just a better system overall and will be more versital than what you have.

As for your shows, I suggest you simply refectory them when they are on again.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:47 PM

So I'd lose the ability to access the Genie from the second TV? That would seem to be a pretty big negative, no?


IMHO it's huge. You also would have the same guide on both with a mini, so when you scroll through looking for things to record it won't matter which tv you are at, you'll see if it's set to record. You have to actually remember what you did if you stick with non minis.

The only reason is if the genie goes down you don't have tv for the day or two it takes to get it swapped. And that's assuming you don't have over the air. IMHO, that's the day you watch a blu Ray if it ever does happen.




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