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who controls opening up the channels after a blackout?


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#1 OFFLINE   matty8199

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:06 PM

trying to watch daily news live right now on SNY and it's blacked out because there was a mets replay on before it...and they still haven't opened the feed back up.  what gives?



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#2 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:14 PM

Don't trust the guide data 100% on gamedays, including replays. If the game went long (last night's Mets game clocked in at 3 hours, 12 minutes), the replay may run long as well unless they edit it. The guide does not tell you what is truly on, only what is scheduled to be on.

 

Oh, and who throws the switch. Well, DirecTV has these guys that used to work at Willie Wonka's Chocolate Factory. They abide by the broadcasters rules. Sing cool little ditties while doing so, as well.


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#3 OFFLINE   matty8199

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:49 PM

Don't trust the guide data 100% on gamedays, including replays. If the game went long (last night's Mets game clocked in at 3 hours, 12 minutes), the replay may run long as well unless they edit it. The guide does not tell you what is truly on, only what is scheduled to be on.

 

Oh, and who throws the switch. Well, DirecTV has these guys that used to work at Willie Wonka's Chocolate Factory. They abide by the broadcasters rules. Sing cool little ditties while doing so, as well.

 

fair enough, although i've never seen a replay run long...at least on SNY.  they usually cut most of the game out, not just enough to fit it into 3 hours...the wilpons need more commercial time to sell to make all the money they can.



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 05:27 PM

fair enough, although i've never seen a replay run long...at least on SNY.  they usually cut most of the game out, not just enough to fit it into 3 hours...the wilpons need more commercial time to sell to make all the money they can.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 04:40 PM

I have noticed this also. I am paying for the Sports Pack & noticed that sometimes local sports shows are blacked out. Why am I paying for Sports Pack if they are going to black out shows that are not actual LIVE Games? They should not be blacked out at all.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 04:41 PM

The damn FCC needs to end all blackouts. This is 2014 for Cryin’ Out Loud!


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 06:16 PM

I have noticed this also. I am paying for the Sports Pack & noticed that sometimes local sports shows are blacked out. Why am I paying for Sports Pack if they are going to black out shows that are not actual LIVE Games? They should not be blacked out at all.
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Same reason superstations died. Copyrights. Out of market stations cannot show copyrighted material that any local outlet has the rights to without their permission.

This is not a sports only issue. And it is not going to change from that perspective.
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:54 PM

FCC tried to end them and the NFL just laughed.

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:24 PM

Same reason superstations died. Copyrights. Out of market stations cannot show copyrighted material that any local outlet has the rights to without their permission.

This is not a sports only issue. And it is not going to change from that perspective.

Canada still has WGN 9 and on most systems they don't black out the NHL games even when it head to head with local and national exclusivity games.  As well other local area stuff. Even TV shows that Netflix has exclusively for Canada,


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I want CLTV / CLTV HD on direct tv.

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:18 PM

Canada is a different country with their own set of laws when it comes to rights issues. Unlike the US rules where a program can be blacked out even if the local station isn't airing it until 3 in the morning, in Canada instead of blackouts they do something called simsub where the foreign channel will be replaced with the Canadian network's broadcast with the requirements that it must be the same production and it must be airing at the same time. So if the Blackhawks produced game on WGN is airing at the same time as a SportsNet produced broadcast of the game it can be shown, but if SportsNet or one of their sister stations pick up the Blackhawks feed, then it would be replaced on WGN so when people turn on WGN they'll see the ads and promos of the Canadian broadcaster. It wasn't that common before, but with the new NHL and Rogers contract this fall there will be nights where they'll go all out and have games airing at the same time on SportsNet, SportsNet 1, SportsNet 360, CBC, City and FX Canada with every non-Canadian game being imported from a US channel. As for the RSN scene in Canada, the only time they have actual out of market blackouts is for local NHL games on SportsNet, TSN Habs, TSN Jets and TSN Sens, after the short lived Vancouver Grizllies left for Memphis and the Expos left for DC, all Blue Jays and Raptors games are available nationally.

What's really interesting is how screwy the rights are though. TSN has the rights to ESPN's MLB games, but they don't have the exclusive window like we have here so SportsNet, who has first dibs on MLB in Canada can air games head to head with it on their channels. There are times where TSN is showing the ESPN game and SportsNet will air the exact same game using the local RSN's feed.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 08:39 AM

bell has never simsubed a blackhawks telecast on wgn. 



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 09:27 AM

Canada is a different country with their own set of laws when it comes to rights issues. .

 

Exactly. Obviously, laws can be changed, but copyright law is what it is in the U.S. Other countries have different laws. Bringing them in as examples is not valuable to the topic other than talking about "right" and "wrong." I was speaking legally. The FCC cannot bring an end to copyright based blackouts; they would be violating law.


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