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#1 OFFLINE   harsh

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:05 AM

In April of this year, DIRECTV applied for a GENIE LITE trademark.

Will this be a new name for the Genie Mini or will it be a cost-reduced Genie?


Also in April, DIRECTV applied for a trademark on DIRECTV COPILOT. The odd part is that in September 2011, they abandoned a trademark on DIRECTV CO-PILOT.

It strikes me as odd that GenieGO, Genie Mini and Wireless Genie Mini aren't registered.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:10 AM

I'm hoping it's a Mini 3 tuner version that's compatible with the 5 tuner Genie.
But that's just wish full thinking.

 

 

 


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 08:31 AM

DIRECTV CoPilot is the name of a feature in the DIRECTV App for iPad. It's been around a little while.

I think DIRECTV had other plans for the name, decided to drop it, then changed their mind and used it for something else.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 02:41 PM

Genie Lite got my attention. But with DirecTV past logic, this could make it anything. Might even be a Genie that glows in the dark.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 02:48 PM

DIRECTV CoPilot is the name of a feature in the DIRECTV App for iPad. It's been around a little while.

I would expect that it would need to have broader support than just iDevices.

Maybe they were going to (or will) release a web app that had/has some practical utility. The existing web app is pretty lightweight.

With hundreds of trademarks, it appears to be a full-time job coming up with names.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 02:55 PM

Might even be a Genie that glows in the dark.

I'm surprised they didn't debut a cost reduced GENIE version prior to the SD cut-off.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:34 PM

Maybe Genie Lite would be essentially the same as the current Genie, and there would also be an improved model with more tuners, 4K support, etc. They'll give away the Lite one for free, and make people pay for the new one. Though you'd think rather than branding one as "Lite" they'd leave it as "Genie" and make the improved one a "Genie Plus" or "Genie Pro" or something like that...

 

It is also quite possible they applied for the trademark because they're thinking about doing something, so it was done just in case they decide to do it. There are a lot of trademarks that get applied for but never used.

 

One of the mods on the other site claimed last December or January there was a HR46 and HR54 in development. The people here in the know said they'd never heard of such a thing, but who knows? One would assume the 46 would be a minor rev of the 44, and the 54 be improved somehow. Supporting 4K would be an obvious improvement, going to 8 tuners so it can support more clients would be another.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:40 PM

I'm surprised they didn't debut a cost reduced GENIE version prior to the SD cut-off.

 

I'm unclear on exactly what they could to reduce the cost of the Genie below the current cost. Better integration (i.e. fewer individual chips) could save a little money, but they could do that anyway and not even have to change the model number, or call it a "HR44 rev 2"

 

Going from 5 to 3 tuners as someone suggested will never happen. It would only support a single client (or maybe two if you were willing to be left with a single tuner on the main unit) Plus that would save very little, as all the tuners could easily be placed on a single chip now. No way that tiny savings would be worth the creating such a useless model.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 08:45 PM



Going from 5 to 3 tuners as someone suggested will never happen. It would only support a single client (or maybe two if you were willing to be left with a single tuner on the main unit) Plus that would save very little, as all the tuners could easily be placed on a single chip now. No way that tiny savings would be worth the creating such a useless model.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 08:58 PM

We need Genie Mega. 8 tuners so that even with three clients in use, you still have 5 dedicated tuners.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 09:57 PM

We need Genie Mega. 8 tuners so that even with three clients in use, you still have 5 dedicated tuners.


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Or like I said, a small 3 tuner, that we can add to our 5 tuner, and still use swm 8 switchs.

If Directv is trying to get more cost effective, than they need something cheaper than $33,27,21 per month for the less than 3,2,1 room Genie crowd.

Because we all know, directv is just teasing us with this price reduction, just to weasel us into this Paying $6 on the first receiver, making it appear justifiable , especially once March arrives.
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Posted 18 August 2014 - 05:19 AM

Not just their game. I can use my own hardware for my Internet connection, but still have to pay their lease fee.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 07:36 AM

All I know is they just released a backlit Genie remote, maybe that's it.
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Posted 18 August 2014 - 07:37 AM

That very well could be .

 

 

 


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 08:30 AM

 

I'm unclear on exactly what they could to reduce the cost of the Genie below the current cost. Better integration (i.e. fewer individual chips) could save a little money, but they could do that anyway and not even have to change the model number, or call it a "HR44 rev 2"

 

Going from 5 to 3 tuners as someone suggested will never happen. It would only support a single client (or maybe two if you were willing to be left with a single tuner on the main unit) Plus that would save very little, as all the tuners could easily be placed on a single chip now. No way that tiny savings would be worth the creating such a useless model.

 

You could build it without a hard drive, that would bring down the cost and provide an option for an HD sans DVR installation but still using the genie platform?

 

We need Genie Mega. 8 tuners so that even with three clients in use, you still have 5 dedicated tuners.


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Maybe they can do something like that with Dswm?


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 09:56 AM

You could build it without a hard drive, that would bring down the cost and provide an option for an HD sans DVR installation but still using the genie platform?

 

That's an interesting idea, some customers still don't have DVRs and perhaps aren't interested in them, but using a Genie would allow using clients instead of all receivers, but provide an easy upgrade path.

 

 

Maybe they can do something like that with Dswm?

 

Having more SWM tuners would be helpful, but it hard to see what value there would be in having a Genie with more than 8 tuners. That would really be a niche product.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 04:25 PM

That's an interesting idea, some customers still don't have DVRs and perhaps aren't interested in them, but using a Genie would allow using clients instead of all receivers, but provide an easy upgrade path.

 

 

 

Having more SWM tuners would be helpful, but it hard to see what value there would be in having a Genie with more than 8 tuners. That would really be a niche product.

Did we think there'd be one with 5 - even 5 years ago?



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Posted 19 August 2014 - 06:58 PM

For the term 'lite' I expect this Genie will either have less tuners or no mini clients.

 

With DirecTV not taking any HR2x back, I expect it would be a less tuners, replacement for the HR2x,  model, as I hope for a no mini client version.


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Posted 19 August 2014 - 07:31 PM

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With DirecTV not taking any HR2x back, I expect it would be a less tuners, replacement for the HR2x,  model, as I hope for a no mini client version.

The only one they are not taking is the HR24-100 all others are still recoverable as of this writing 


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 06:49 AM

The only one they are not taking is the HR24-100 all others are still recoverable as of this writing

They didn't want my HR20-700 back when I upgraded just a couple of weeks ago.




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