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GENIE LITE coming?


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#26 OFFLINE   harsh

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 08:39 AM

Did we think there'd be one with 5 - even 5 years ago?

The HMC was announced almost ten years ago for delivery on or around EOY 2005.

Perhaps the most exciting development will be the year-end launch of the DIRECTV Home Media Center to provide whole-house connectivity with all multimedia systems, along with mobility for devices outside the home. Content in a variety of forms — digitally recorded video, photos and music — will be accessible from every networked TV in the house. Through a broadband connection, the DIRECTV Home Media Center will support personal computer connectivity, scheduling of DVR
recordings from the Internet, photos from wireless phones, video-on-demand and many other features.

Here's the 2005 CES press release:

http://investor.dire...e7-74e9176728b3

Prior to this there was speculation of a six-tuner modular unit.
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Posted 01 September 2014 - 10:42 AM

Wonder if DirecTV will ever make a STB that could also work with a WiFi/Bluetooth keyboard?


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Posted 02 September 2014 - 10:20 PM

Wonder if DirecTV will ever make a STB that could also work with a WiFi/Bluetooth keyboard?

I'll wager they leave that to apps on various devices.
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Posted 03 September 2014 - 02:33 PM

Today DirecTV told me to keep my HR24-500 with a failing hard drive as they are shipping a replacement to me.  I just have to send back the access card, which seems odd.



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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:49 PM

Today DirecTV told me to keep my HR24-500 with a failing hard drive as they are shipping a replacement to me. I just have to send back the access card, which seems odd.

Other posters have also stated Directv hasn't been asking for there HR24's back either... it's yours now. Every receiver I have leased so far, I haven't had to return since they were obsolete when they failed. Now if my HR44 fails tomorrow I guarantee they will want it back. If you stay with directv longer than 2 years the lease program is actually better than owning, get to keep it anyways.... and usually no up front cost.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:08 PM

Other posters have also stated Directv hasn't been asking for there HR24's back either... it's yours now. Every receiver I have leased so far, I haven't had to return since they were obsolete when they failed. Now if my HR44 fails tomorrow I guarantee they will want it back. If you stay with directv longer than 2 years the lease program is actually better than owning, get to keep it anyways.... and usually no up front cost.


But even if they don't want it back, you can't do as much with a leased box they don't want than an owned box.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:13 PM

But even if they don't want it back, you can't do as much with a leased box they don't want than an owned box.

I have no idea of the actual policy of old lease receivers, all I know is my brother now has two of my old lease HR2* DVR'S under his account as owned. Access card dept made him pay for 2 access cards but that's it. He as a very low tier plan and doesn't carry protection plan so if they fail he is out of luck.... but again that's just my experience with it, not sure of actual policy.
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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:24 PM

As far as I know, that is not policy.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:34 PM

As far as I know, that is not policy.

You maybe right, we did do them at separate times though, the hr20-700 was probably over 2 years ago, more recently had an hr22-100 replaced with a hr44-700, was a few months ago, and we did it again, my cheap brother even tried to get them to waive the $20 card fee but they absolutely refused. Lol!

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 08:27 AM

But even if they don't want it back, you can't do as much with a leased box they don't want than an owned box.

There isn't much you can do with cardless boxes either way whether owned or leased. If it comes down to being able to recover some of the additional cost you paid to get an owned box, reselling is not really all that.
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Posted 13 April 2015 - 09:49 PM

H44 is the Genie Lite. Yep no internal HDD.


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 10:27 PM

H44 is the Genie Lite. Yep no internal HDD.

H44 is pretty much a non-recording Genie with a built in 21 volt power inserter, there is an external hard drive for it you can order, it is customer owned once you get it, and technicians are not supposed to support it.  The H44 will control Minis like the regular genie now, but no DVR controls without that ESata external HDD.   Also, from what I understand the new H44 will require a 3DS or DSWM LNB to work, as it has 12-13 tuners on it, can't remember the exact number, but more minis can receive signal at one time with the two new Genies coming out, according to DirecTv by the end of this year, as the new HR54 will be 4K through the new 99 satellite they launched earlier.



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Posted 24 May 2015 - 10:41 PM

H44 is pretty much a non-recording Genie with a built in 21 volt power inserter, there is an external hard drive for it you can order, it is customer owned once you get it, and technicians are not supposed to support it.  The H44 will control Minis like the regular genie now, but no DVR controls without that ESata external HDD.   Also, from what I understand the new H44 will require a 3DS or DSWM LNB to work, as it has 12-13 tuners on it, can't remember the exact number, but more minis can receive signal at one time with the two new Genies coming out, according to DirecTv by the end of this year, as the new HR54 will be 4K through the new 99 satellite they launched earlier.

 

 

Where did you get all that info?



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Posted 24 May 2015 - 10:49 PM

The info came from a Technician in the test market for it.

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 11:30 PM

If you click on the feature comparison table at this link, it says it supports only 3 RVU devices, implying it is basically a HR44 without the hard drive. There are a few other very minor differences like not having a phone jack and the aforementioned built in PI21. It doesn't have 12 or 13 tuners and almost certainly works with any SWM.

 

http://webcache.goog...eshooting-tips/


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SL5, PI-6S, SA-6AL, 3xSWM16; 21 H20-100, 1 H20-600, 7 H24-700/AM21


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Posted 25 May 2015 - 12:09 AM

Will a client connected to the Genie lite be able to access the DVR playlist on the same network as an HR44? If it has no hard drive and no DVR functionality, what's the benefit of this over an H25 box? I don't see one...

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 07:24 AM

From what I understand without a waiver, the H44 like the HR34 and HR44 you can only have one on your account.

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 07:28 AM

That cache is from the second model released for testing, they are now on the 5th variant of it. But then he might have gotten the HR54 and H44 confused when giving me stats of it.

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Posted 25 May 2015 - 01:54 PM

That cache is from the second model released for testing, they are now on the 5th variant of it. But then he might have gotten the HR54 and H44 confused when giving me stats of it.

 

It would seem really odd to me that they'd change something as major as number of tuners / supported RVU devices and which type of SWM is required in between variants of a product being tested without changing the name. But I don't know how Directv conducts its testing.

 

It would also mean some amazingly rapid design/test cycles to go from the second to the fifth variant in the 2 1/2 months since the date on that page...


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Posted 25 May 2015 - 09:53 PM

Maybe they should worry more about their software rather than new model receivers...


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Posted 25 May 2015 - 09:55 PM

Never mind a Genie Lite, we heavy users need a Genie Ultra.


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Posted 25 May 2015 - 09:58 PM

Maybe they should worry more about their software rather than new model receivers...

 

Well there's a rumor that must be at least two years old, they were working on a completely new code.

 

But I suspect most everything is in limbo until there's a yes/no answer to the merger.


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Posted 25 May 2015 - 10:47 PM

It would seem really odd to me that they'd change something as major as number of tuners / supported RVU devices and which type of SWM is required in between variants of a product being tested without changing the name.

DIRECTV doesn't represent the number of tuners in their model numbers so that portion of you're rationalization doesn't make sense.
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Posted 25 May 2015 - 11:18 PM

DIRECTV doesn't represent the number of tuners in their model numbers so that portion of you're rationalization doesn't make sense.

 

Must agree. As I see no logic in how they select the number in their model ID.


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Posted 26 May 2015 - 12:16 AM

Well actually it does.  An HR44 is a H=HD R-DVR fourth generation=4 four room dvr=4

 

A C41 is a fourth generation compatible device that works in one room. 

 

And a major point of the genies is they are five tuner.  They have always considered tuners to be a differentiation in models. You know this...  


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