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#1 OFFLINE   sangs

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 11:32 AM

Coming back and getting D* installed tomorrow with a new dish, on which I'd like to attach an adhesive dish heater. Just sticks to the back of the dish and has an electrical cord that will cascade down the side of the house with the coax - hopefully. Since it'll be on the roof (three story house) I'm hoping the installer will also install the heater if I ask. And yes, I will reward him for his time and effort. :) This is mainly for the installers out there, is it something that customers have requested of you and is it OK? Thanks.



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 12:08 PM

Yes it should be fine -No worries  :righton:


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 02:49 PM

Just make sure you tell him before he's hauled the new dish up to the roof, because it'll be a lot easier to stick it on beforehand :)


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 03:05 PM

Just make sure you tell him before he's hauled the new dish up to the roof, because it'll be a lot easier to stick it on beforehand :)

 

Oh definitely, don't worry about that. Thanks a lot guys.



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Posted 26 August 2014 - 11:58 AM

As you both said, it was no problem at all. Very pleased since snow issues were a big reason I left DirecTV in the first place.



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Posted 26 August 2014 - 12:56 PM

As you both said, it was no problem at all. Very pleased since snow issues were a big reason I left DirecTV in the first place.

 

Curious where you live that snow on your dish was a big enough problem to leave Directv?


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 06:03 PM

Curious where you live that snow on your dish was a big enough problem to leave Directv?

Me too!  last snow storm I got, covered everything BUT my dish.

 

 

 

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 09:43 PM

Me too!  last snow storm I got, covered everything BUT my dish.

 

That same storm required me to use a super soaker to get the snow off of my dish.



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:29 AM

Curious where you live that snow on your dish was a big enough problem to leave Directv?

NE New Jersey. Back in the days of the round dish, snow was never a problem. But for whatever reason, the advent of HD and the Slimline caused issues. Snow accumulated on the dish as if it were lying flat on the ground. We tend to get a heavy, wet snow in my area and with the dish being on the third story - and a very steep part of the roof - I'd have to wait for it to thaw. (No Super Soaker would reach. :) ) Hoping the heater prevents that this year. (EDIT: Though I have to say, this new dish looks different from the previous one. Appears to have less curve and installed with less of an incline.)

 

Btw, what a great install. Very pleased with the tech. Even gave me his personal number in case I have questions or issues. 


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:27 AM

Me too!  last snow storm I got, covered everything BUT my dish.

 

It amazes me that your dish doesn't have a drop on it. We live in the same geographical area. I'm assuming that's from last winter? Our dish (we used FiOS for TV service this past horrendous winter) was covered for several days after those storms, especially since it remained so cold after each one. Years past, those storms would be followed by a relative warm-up and the snow would melt. I'm not taking any chances this time around.



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:48 AM

I remember some discussion about the slight variants of the Slimline reflector, some have smooth edges and some have a bit of a "lip" around the edge. Could that have something to do with it? If you have heavy wet snow it will stick to almost anything, but I would think it would eventually slide off a dish from its own weight, due to the angle. Maybe the lip on the reflector is just enough to hold the snow in place.

 

I can't tell from the pic, does your dish have a lip, peds48?


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Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:54 AM

I remember some discussion about the slight variants of the Slimline reflector, some have smooth edges and some have a bit of a "lip" around the edge. Could that have something to do with it? If you have heavy wet snow it will stick to almost anything, but I would think it would eventually slide off a dish from its own weight, due to the angle. Maybe the lip on the reflector is just enough to hold the snow in place.

 

I can't tell from the pic, does your dish have a lip, peds48?

 

I don't know if I'd call it a lip exactly, but the old dish definitely had more of a, umm, bowl look to it than the one installed yesterday. In fact, he couldn't use the existing foot from the previous dish because it wasn't large enough to connect the arm. So something is definitely different this time around. Of course I'm nearly 100 percent certain that since I decided to purchase a dish heater that I'll never have a use for it - just like with the whole home generator we haven't needed since it was installed, following three years of wishing we'd had one. I live in NJ though, so I'm good with protection fees. :)



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 12:53 PM

I don't know if I'd call it a lip exactly, but the old dish definitely had more of a, umm, bowl look to it than the one installed yesterday. In fact, he couldn't use the existing foot from the previous dish because it wasn't large enough to connect the arm. So something is definitely different this time around. Of course I'm nearly 100 percent certain that since I decided to purchase a dish heater that I'll never have a use for it - just like with the whole home generator we haven't needed since it was installed, following three years of wishing we'd had one. I live in NJ though, so I'm good with protection fees. :)

 

Was your old dish a Slimline or an AT-9?

 

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 01:47 PM

Slimline.

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:43 PM

It amazes me that your dish doesn't have a drop on it. We live in the same geographical area. I'm assuming that's from last winter? Our dish (we used FiOS for TV service this past horrendous winter) was covered for several days after those storms, especially since it remained so cold after each one. Years past, those storms would be followed by a relative warm-up and the snow would melt. I'm not taking any chances this time around.

 

In the many years I have lived in this neighborhood, I have had to clean the snow from the dish just once.  

 

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 08:44 PM

 

 

I can't tell from the pic, does your dish have a lip, peds48?

In the front or in the back?


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 09:46 AM

In the front or in the back?

 

The front. I don't think a back lip would matter since you don't care if snow builds up there :)


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:15 PM

The front. I don't think a back lip would matter since you don't care if snow builds up there :)

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Posted 29 August 2014 - 09:01 AM

No edges on the one I just had installed. Well, at least from what I can tell at ground level.



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Posted 29 August 2014 - 09:08 AM

I take it he installed the heater for you, did he have to run a separate coax for the power?

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Posted 29 August 2014 - 10:34 AM

I take it he installed the heater for you, did he have to run a separate coax for the power?

 

I think the heaters include their own power cord, though I've heard you can run the power over a separate coax if you want. It is 7A 24v for the Hot Shot, I believe. If I ever have to replace my dish I'll probably have a heater added just in case, even though I've never had problems, but it isn't worth the hassle of trying to retrofit. Luckily I have a couple extra coaxes from my old 72.5* dish, so I could use one of them for the power.

 

sangs - did you install the LNB arm heater as well or just the dish heater?


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 12:07 PM

I take it he installed the heater for you, did he have to run a separate coax for the power?

 

For the heater? No. It has it's owner power cord and I'd purchased a couple extension cords with water-proof cord connectors ahead of time. He connected everything and ran it down along the side of the house, nicely bundled with the satellite coax. It's looped up and secured with a zip tie until the time comes when I'll unspool it and plug it into my outdoor outlet. 



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Posted 29 August 2014 - 12:10 PM

I think the heaters include their own power cord, though I've heard you can run the power over a separate coax if you want. It is 7A 24v for the Hot Shot, I believe. If I ever have to replace my dish I'll probably have a heater added just in case, even though I've never had problems, but it isn't worth the hassle of trying to retrofit. Luckily I have a couple extra coaxes from my old 72.5* dish, so I could use one of them for the power.

 

sangs - did you install the LNB arm heater as well or just the dish heater?

 

Just the dish heater. It's called the Ice Zapper and it sticks to the back of the dish. One version comes with an always on thermostat that kicks in at 32 degrees and one that you plug in on an as-needed basis. I chose the latter. There was no option for an LNB heater. I wondered about that, but from past experience very little snow has accumulated on the arm/LNB. Though the irony of that being a problem this winter would not be lost on me. :)


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 01:04 PM

Just the dish heater. It's called the Ice Zapper and it sticks to the back of the dish. One version comes with an always on thermostat that kicks in at 32 degrees and one that you plug in on an as-needed basis. I chose the latter. There was no option for an LNB heater. I wondered about that, but from past experience very little snow has accumulated on the arm/LNB. Though the irony of that being a problem this winter would not be lost on me. :)

 

I would think that the fact that heat radiates across metal would mean that the the arm would actually be a little bit heated when the dish heater is on.  That may be enough to prevent any snow from building up there.



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Posted 29 August 2014 - 01:32 PM

I would think that the fact that heat radiates across metal would mean that the the arm would actually be a little bit heated when the dish heater is on.  That may be enough to prevent any snow from building up there.

 

True, it might, and maybe the heat from the LNB itself would be enough to heat the arm, but if I ever did this I'd get the whole package just to be sure!


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