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Rumor: YES Coming soon to E*


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#51 OFFLINE   Msguy

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 12:50 AM

Switch to DTV and you can get YES.

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 10:38 PM

switch to DTV. switch to DTV. What if I don't want to switch. I'm sick of people telling me to switch to get YES. Why can't Charlie get this dam station? This dude makes billions of $$$ a year. Man lets just state the fact...Charlie doesn't care about saving us money, he only cares about making his pocket fatter....He is cheap as hell and now it seems that he is going to lose the turner stations just in time for the NBA playoff season. This guy is a joke...he is the ONLY one that can't get a deal done with YES or Turner.

plea to charlie....Please step down and let someone who knows how to negotiate a freaking deal take your place. I spent all this money on Dish network equipment (equipment that no one in my freaking area will buy at least not for a decent price) so I’m stuck with it and NOW I HAVE TO SWITCH TO DTV? I’m not a rich man can Charlie give me a DTV receiver so I can switch?

Is there anyway/anywhere where I can trade my crappy DISH NETWORK RECEIVER for a DTV receiver?

Charlie is lucky he has a better Latino package than DTV; that is the only reason he has been able to get any NY area subs.

Dish Network is a joke in the NY area. Take a peak on what some NYers are saying about Dish Network.

http://boards.yesnetwork.com/

#53 OFFLINE   FTA Michael

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Posted 09 April 2004 - 09:25 AM

switch to DTV. switch to DTV. What if I don't want to switch. I'm sick of people telling me to switch to get YES. Why can't Charlie get this dam station? This dude makes billions of $$$ a year. ... plea to charlie....Please step down and let someone who knows how to negotiate a freaking deal take your place. ... Dish Network is a joke in the NY area.

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First, Charlie's salary is actually quite modest. If his net worth increases, it's because his E* holdings have become more valuable, which helps all of us shareholders.
E* becomes more valuable by becoming more profitable, which sometimes means making hard decisions. Take the emotion out of the equation and try to estimate how many new subs Dish would get in the NYC market by adding YES now, then figure how much it would cost Dish to pay the YES fee for every current NYC market sub. (Consider that current NYC subs have stayed with Dish for up to two years already in the absence of YES.) I guarantee that Dish execs have performed this exercise, using better numbers than we have, and have determined that Dish would lose money on YES.

Is there anyway/anywhere where I can trade my crappy DISH NETWORK RECEIVER for a DTV receiver?

Certainly. If you own your equipment and have fulfilled your programming commitments, you can sell your Dish equipment on eBay. And DirecTV is usually happy to set up new subscribers with free equipment and installation in exchange for a modest programming commitment.
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Posted 09 April 2004 - 07:19 PM

carload,

While most of what you say is most likely true, there are other things to consider.
Such as
- People who want to jump ship from DTV but won't due to no YES. - There are quite a few.
- The constant rate cable rate increases driving more and more people to satellite. One of the things to consider, at least in the NY area, is the YES network.
- Every year there is no YES, more and more DISH subs will leave to DTV or cable.
With all of these factors, and the fact that every year that goes by, I see more and more pissed off DISH subs, I really think it would be beneficial for DISH to get a deal done.
This is more of an insight then anything else. I am certainly not privy to all the information that the decision makers have.

-SNT

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 04:17 PM

I just wish we can find out the REAL reason why YES is not on DISH. Who is holding this deal from being done? Is it YES's fault or Dish? Why can't DISH sign some type of interim contract with YES similar to what Cablevision did last year? Doesn't Charlie want to get the popular channels on his system to attract more customers, especially in the NY area? Doesn't he want to compete with DTV in the NY area or is he just satisfied with being number 2? I JUST DON'T GET IT?

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 04:28 PM

I just wish we can find out the REAL reason why YES is not on DISH. Who is holding this deal from being done? Is it YES's fault or Dish? Why can't DISH sign some type of interim contract with YES similar to what Cablevision did last year? Doesn't Charlie want to get the popular channels on his system to attract more customers, especially in the NY area? Doesn't he want to compete with DTV in the NY area or is he just satisfied with being number 2? I JUST DON'T GET IT?

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 06:07 PM

Once again it should be stated to remind all the Charlie haters... Charlie's hard-nosed negotiations is not aimed at getting the best price possible for those subs who truly want YES ...but rather his tactics are aimed to prevent those subs who "don't" want(or don't qualify for) YES from rate increases.

It is obvious that Charlie would sign on the dotted line immediately to provide YES via "ala carte", but by having to include it in the AT120 and above to "all" subs living in the YES market, he would HAVE to raise rates to recoup the cost. This would leave him two choices, have a separate rate for subs in the YES market, or worse raise all subs rates for ALL subs irregardless of whether or not you can even get YES.

So in essence, the reason why those who "want" YES don't have it through Dish, is because the YES network wants more subs to be paying their outrageous fee ...even if many of the subs in their market don't want it.

I hope that gives the Charlie haters some food for thought.

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 08:02 PM

by having to include it in the AT120 and above to "all" subs living in the YES market, he would HAVE to raise rates to recoup the cost.

Well, no. E* sets rates to maximize profit based primarily on the competitive marketplace. If Charlie thought he would make more money by charging all of us an extra $1 per month, he would. Heck, if he thought he'd make more by charging a $1 less, he would. Charlie isn't thinking so much about how much rates would go up with YES. He's thinking more about having lower profits with YES.

Programming costs and subscriber prices have little to do with each other, just as the price of burgers at McDonalds has little to do with the fluctuations of meat prices.

But I agree with the spirit of your argument. I think E* has decided that, by now, Dish subscribers in the NYC market are folks who don't care enough about YES to switch to DirecTV or cable. There's no doubt that adding YES would cause E* to pick up some new subscribers, but the benefit of those new subs would be outweighed by the direct cost of the YES programming fee multiplied by all existing NYC market subs.
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Posted 22 April 2004 - 05:31 AM

But, in upstate markets with significant populations, Dish is just killing themselves. Locals are now coming online. Dish wants to go after cable subs in a big way. Yes or should I say the Yankeees is a religion up here. The loss of that one channel has to be killing them. I for one would never ever buy Dish at any price point because of Yes!

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 08:35 AM

Well... once again... Charlie has all the numbers to support his decision, if he was taking more of a financial hit without Yes, then he would succumb to Yes's terms and offer it. He obviously sees it as a greater liability to sign with Yes under the current terms, then not signing with them.

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 05:39 PM

Im Glad YES network isnt on dishnet, :D GO ORIOLES!




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