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Rumor: YES Coming soon to E*


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#41 OFFLINE   Msguy

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Posted 04 April 2004 - 01:00 AM

I've read all the posts. If you are a die hard Yankee Fan wanting a dish and you are wanting to View Yankees games this season. I would say get a Direc Tv System Subscribe to Extra Innings and you will by no means have any trouble getting Yankees games. Every YES game on Extra Innings last year was available home and road on YES. Even for out of Yankee Territory Viewers. I know because Every Single Yankees game last year was available on YES and Blacked out on the other Teams RSN home and Road and it's probably going to be the same way this season. I live nowhere near N.Y. Yankees territory here in Mississippi. One good thing was if the Yankees had an ESPN game or ESPN 2 game last year i had a choice of watching the ESPN Feed or YES. Also Note that Wednesday Night ESPN Games and Games Available in your Local Market will not be the only 2 or 3 games available this season. The Wednesday Night Blackout Rule has been lifted and on Extra Innings this season you will be able to see up to 60 games per week for the entire season as the blackout rule was actually lifted last season but this season it is lifted for the entire season. This is the best news because no more settling for the ESPN Games and sitting there twiddling your thumbs about ready to explode because a game you are so desperately wanting to view is blacked out. Thank God for that.

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 09:13 AM

So, MLB EI gives a sub full access to YES or just the games?
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Posted 05 April 2004 - 09:18 AM

So, MLB EI gives a sub full access to YES or just the games?


Just the games and so far only on DirecTV and cable. Also, there is some indication that YES Network will not be used as much this season as in the past.

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Posted 05 April 2004 - 12:40 PM

See thread on Satellite Guys ... CSR screens show info that *may* lead one to believe that YES could still end up on E* this year.

http://www.satellite...24&page=7&pp=15

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 12:00 PM

And now the bad news ... on today's Retailer Chat it was stated that there will be *no* YES Network on Dish.

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 02:47 PM

SHOCK!! AWE!!!! SURPRISE!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!

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Posted 06 April 2004 - 08:11 PM

Dish Network... I can't believe that there is going to be ANOTHER year with no yanks on dish. Even Cablevision has it. Why couldn't a deal be reached? Is this an anti yankee thing that I am not aware of? Is the person in charge of getting a deal done a Red Sox fan?

Soon the Devils will be on YES and that will be another team that I will not be able to see if I don't switch to DTV or Cablevision. Oh well at least the people that are not in the NY Area will enjoy seeing the Yankee games on E* with this crappy MLB package... What a joke!

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 07:51 AM

Can we change the name of this thread to reflect reality? Its obvious that this channel will never be on E*

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 03:26 PM

Why is Dish Network being so cheap? Do they think they are special and deserve a better deal then Cablevision or DTV? Dish Network says No to YES for the 3rd year in a row.

Dish has 9.4 million customers now. Imagine how many more customers; especially in the NY area, they could have had. Some people are dying to go back to Dish Network. But they don’t because they refuse to add the YES network.

Maybe Charlie wants to save the money to add more porno stations.

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 06:15 PM

Why is Dish Network being so cheap? Do they think they are special and deserve a better deal then Cablevision or DTV? Dish Network says No to YES for the 3rd year in a row.

Dish has 9.4 million customers now. Imagine how many more customers; especially in the NY area, they could have had. Some people are dying to go back to Dish Network. But they don?t because they refuse to add the YES network.

Maybe Charlie wants to save the money to add more porno stations.

maybe he hates the Yankees

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 12:50 AM

Switch to DTV and you can get YES.

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 10:38 PM

switch to DTV. switch to DTV. What if I don't want to switch. I'm sick of people telling me to switch to get YES. Why can't Charlie get this dam station? This dude makes billions of $$$ a year. Man lets just state the fact...Charlie doesn't care about saving us money, he only cares about making his pocket fatter....He is cheap as hell and now it seems that he is going to lose the turner stations just in time for the NBA playoff season. This guy is a joke...he is the ONLY one that can't get a deal done with YES or Turner.

plea to charlie....Please step down and let someone who knows how to negotiate a freaking deal take your place. I spent all this money on Dish network equipment (equipment that no one in my freaking area will buy at least not for a decent price) so I’m stuck with it and NOW I HAVE TO SWITCH TO DTV? I’m not a rich man can Charlie give me a DTV receiver so I can switch?

Is there anyway/anywhere where I can trade my crappy DISH NETWORK RECEIVER for a DTV receiver?

Charlie is lucky he has a better Latino package than DTV; that is the only reason he has been able to get any NY area subs.

Dish Network is a joke in the NY area. Take a peak on what some NYers are saying about Dish Network.

http://boards.yesnetwork.com/

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Posted 09 April 2004 - 09:25 AM

switch to DTV. switch to DTV. What if I don't want to switch. I'm sick of people telling me to switch to get YES. Why can't Charlie get this dam station? This dude makes billions of $$$ a year. ... plea to charlie....Please step down and let someone who knows how to negotiate a freaking deal take your place. ... Dish Network is a joke in the NY area.

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First, Charlie's salary is actually quite modest. If his net worth increases, it's because his E* holdings have become more valuable, which helps all of us shareholders.
E* becomes more valuable by becoming more profitable, which sometimes means making hard decisions. Take the emotion out of the equation and try to estimate how many new subs Dish would get in the NYC market by adding YES now, then figure how much it would cost Dish to pay the YES fee for every current NYC market sub. (Consider that current NYC subs have stayed with Dish for up to two years already in the absence of YES.) I guarantee that Dish execs have performed this exercise, using better numbers than we have, and have determined that Dish would lose money on YES.

Is there anyway/anywhere where I can trade my crappy DISH NETWORK RECEIVER for a DTV receiver?

Certainly. If you own your equipment and have fulfilled your programming commitments, you can sell your Dish equipment on eBay. And DirecTV is usually happy to set up new subscribers with free equipment and installation in exchange for a modest programming commitment.
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Posted 09 April 2004 - 07:19 PM

carload,

While most of what you say is most likely true, there are other things to consider.
Such as
- People who want to jump ship from DTV but won't due to no YES. - There are quite a few.
- The constant rate cable rate increases driving more and more people to satellite. One of the things to consider, at least in the NY area, is the YES network.
- Every year there is no YES, more and more DISH subs will leave to DTV or cable.
With all of these factors, and the fact that every year that goes by, I see more and more pissed off DISH subs, I really think it would be beneficial for DISH to get a deal done.
This is more of an insight then anything else. I am certainly not privy to all the information that the decision makers have.

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 04:17 PM

I just wish we can find out the REAL reason why YES is not on DISH. Who is holding this deal from being done? Is it YES's fault or Dish? Why can't DISH sign some type of interim contract with YES similar to what Cablevision did last year? Doesn't Charlie want to get the popular channels on his system to attract more customers, especially in the NY area? Doesn't he want to compete with DTV in the NY area or is he just satisfied with being number 2? I JUST DON'T GET IT?

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 04:28 PM

I just wish we can find out the REAL reason why YES is not on DISH. Who is holding this deal from being done? Is it YES's fault or Dish? Why can't DISH sign some type of interim contract with YES similar to what Cablevision did last year? Doesn't Charlie want to get the popular channels on his system to attract more customers, especially in the NY area? Doesn't he want to compete with DTV in the NY area or is he just satisfied with being number 2? I JUST DON'T GET IT?

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 06:07 PM

Once again it should be stated to remind all the Charlie haters... Charlie's hard-nosed negotiations is not aimed at getting the best price possible for those subs who truly want YES ...but rather his tactics are aimed to prevent those subs who "don't" want(or don't qualify for) YES from rate increases.

It is obvious that Charlie would sign on the dotted line immediately to provide YES via "ala carte", but by having to include it in the AT120 and above to "all" subs living in the YES market, he would HAVE to raise rates to recoup the cost. This would leave him two choices, have a separate rate for subs in the YES market, or worse raise all subs rates for ALL subs irregardless of whether or not you can even get YES.

So in essence, the reason why those who "want" YES don't have it through Dish, is because the YES network wants more subs to be paying their outrageous fee ...even if many of the subs in their market don't want it.

I hope that gives the Charlie haters some food for thought.

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Posted 10 April 2004 - 08:02 PM

by having to include it in the AT120 and above to "all" subs living in the YES market, he would HAVE to raise rates to recoup the cost.

Well, no. E* sets rates to maximize profit based primarily on the competitive marketplace. If Charlie thought he would make more money by charging all of us an extra $1 per month, he would. Heck, if he thought he'd make more by charging a $1 less, he would. Charlie isn't thinking so much about how much rates would go up with YES. He's thinking more about having lower profits with YES.

Programming costs and subscriber prices have little to do with each other, just as the price of burgers at McDonalds has little to do with the fluctuations of meat prices.

But I agree with the spirit of your argument. I think E* has decided that, by now, Dish subscribers in the NYC market are folks who don't care enough about YES to switch to DirecTV or cable. There's no doubt that adding YES would cause E* to pick up some new subscribers, but the benefit of those new subs would be outweighed by the direct cost of the YES programming fee multiplied by all existing NYC market subs.
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Posted 22 April 2004 - 05:31 AM

But, in upstate markets with significant populations, Dish is just killing themselves. Locals are now coming online. Dish wants to go after cable subs in a big way. Yes or should I say the Yankeees is a religion up here. The loss of that one channel has to be killing them. I for one would never ever buy Dish at any price point because of Yes!

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 08:35 AM

Well... once again... Charlie has all the numbers to support his decision, if he was taking more of a financial hit without Yes, then he would succumb to Yes's terms and offer it. He obviously sees it as a greater liability to sign with Yes under the current terms, then not signing with them.




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