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Pitching question, pitching debate?

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#1 OFFLINE   John Corn

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Posted 06 May 2002 - 11:48 AM

? is since 1989 who is the top pitcher in the game.. Here are the records of the 4 guys that I feel belong in this argument, I use these 4 becuase they all been around about the same time guys like Mussina and Schilling either havnt been around as long or havnt been a starter long enough or effective as these 4 guys so here they are

Since 1989

Randy Johnson 191-101
Roger Clemens 202-111
Greg Maddux 231-120
Tom Glavin 215-111

So hows #1,2,3,4
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#2 OFFLINE   James_F


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Posted 06 May 2002 - 12:29 PM

If you are talking about regular season, I would take them in this order:


For post season:

Even though Johnson had a good postseason last year, his record isn't that great over all. Not a bad choice though....

Where did you get those win totals? I found something different at MLB Historic Data.

BTW, I'm glad to see the bag come off! :hi:

#3 OFFLINE   Mike



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Posted 06 May 2002 - 08:36 PM

Maddux for the past year???? No way! Does that include this year? Good thing about the Braves this year is that they are stinking up a storm like in the mid 80's. This is when Skip Caray is at his best, BTW!! :)

Johnson, Clemems, Maddux and Glavine will be my order. Glavine is fading fast. Clemens and Johnson are still pitching great. Maddux has struggled in some of his starts this year. The sign of age? I hope so...........

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Posted 07 May 2002 - 07:28 AM

For the whole period, I'll submit this order:

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#5 OFFLINE   John Corn

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Posted 07 May 2002 - 02:00 PM

James, I'm not sure which site I was pulling these from, but here is the original list I pulled and I know it was from only 1989-2001

1989-2001 G W L IP SO ERA
Roger Clemens 405 202 111 2855.2 2732 3.12
Greg Maddux 435 231 120 3115.1 2262 2.65
Randy Johnson 397 197 101 2722.1 3387 3.13
Tom Glavine 426 215 111 2874.1 1823 3.28
Pedro Martinez 296 132 59 1693.0 1981 2.66
Mike Mussina 322 164 92 2238.1 1749 3.49
Curt Schilling 386 132 98 2144.0 2028 3.33

Let me change my rankings a bit:

1. Greg Maddux
2. Roger Clemens
3. Randy Johnson
4. Tom Glavine

Actually Pedro only been around since 1993 actually.. Secondly He only been a dominant pitcher since 1997...if he can keep up this pace and keep that era low as it hase been under 3.00 since 1997 then yes, i put him in the mix.. but right now he had a 5 yr window of greatness compared to 10 for the other 4 guys
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