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#26 OFFLINE   Marcus S

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 01:02 AM

I believe my earlier post stated that DBS provider "are" interpreting this bill inaccurately and agree that law, interpretation, and DBS policy has now headed south.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 01:03 AM

As of 1:59am

Since your so in the know you need the absorb the following links;
http://www.directv.c...els_options.dsp
http://www.directv.c...dns_shvera.html

Then to support your argument, please produce a Text, Word, or PDF document of the SHVERA "entire" bill. You want find it, because while it has been implemented, it is not yet available to the public. Why?

Because revisions are still in progress to define who can or cannot qual to receive local HD "or" DNS HD nets if a rural opts out of their new found local DMA who also cannot receive OTA reception. The only scrambled words I read are yours. So please copy/paste portions of the actual bill to support your foundation.

The true argument is if SHVERA is an addendum to SHVA / SHVIRA or if SHVERA modifies to clarify existing law. Public view, after damage, is due sometime in April.

Regardless, DBS providers are acting conservatily because they expect the worst.

Just marking this down, in case there are further revisions.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 01:06 AM

I believe my earlier post stated that DBS provider "are" interpreting this bill inaccurately and agree that law, interpretation, and DBS policy has now headed south.

The law is doing fine. The official interpretation is underway in the NPRM. This is not the end of DBS.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 01:12 AM

This is not the end of DBS, but how they are interpreting SHVERA. So far, D* sent letters out today to allow you to choose new found locals versus DNS and cannot guaranty DNS HD if you opt out of "locals".

So far I have distant locals & DSN, and will opt out of distant locals if I can be assured I can get DSN HD.

The nets and cable have allot to loose here, and I will assure, my new found locals will loose.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 01:25 AM

This is not the end of DBS, but how they are interpreting SHVERA. So far, D* sent letters out today to allow you to choose new found locals versus DNS and cannot guaranty DNS HD if you opt out of "locals".

So far I have distant locals & DSN, and will opt out of distant locals if I can be assured I can get DSN HD.

The nets and cable have allot to loose here, and I will assure, my new found locals loose.

If you say so. But I choose to disagree.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 01:58 AM

You have until April to disagree with your DBS provider. You have only have March to complain to the FCC.
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Comment date: April 8, 2005
Reply Comment date: April 29, 2005

We have until April 8th to comment to the FCC, and until April 29th to reply to comments made to the FCC. Of course the rulemaking has to do with Significantly Viewed stations - close distants. So don't bother the FCC with your complaints about East Coast/West Coast distants.

You can disagree with your DBS provider until you are blue in the face. It is their option, and perfectly legal, not to offer you distants or locals - either or both.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 01:59 AM

Please produce the actual bill in it's entirety. Do not make assumptions or produce snipits of what the bill was intended to accomplish. Last consumer posts must be received by Mar 11, Corporate appeals will be "considered" through April 8th.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 02:06 AM

2:59am

Please produce the actual bill in it's entirety. Do not make assumptions and produce snipits of what the bill was intended to accomplish.

See THIS POST for one of the many links posted to the SHVIRA forum.

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Please produce the actual bill in it's entirety. Do not make assumptions or produce snipits of what the bill was intended to accomplish. Last consumer posts must be received by Mar 11, Corporate appeals will be "considered" through April 8th.

Prove that. What paragraph?

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 02:10 AM

Obviously you are smoking something, your late night post / link is garbled and smokes out pork barrels under the Reagan Admin? And yes, please post the SHVERA bill for us all to read.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 02:16 AM

3:10am

Obviously you are smoking something, your late night post is garbled and smokes out pork barrels under the Reagan Admin?

Oh, you have done better than that. Your 2:12am post was barely in English. The 3:10am one here would kill an English teacher.

Have you found proof of the 70 mile rule yet, or have you turned to insults only mode now?

There is no March 11th cutoff for consumer comments.

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Obviously you are smoking something, your late night post / link is garbled and smokes out pork barrels under the Reagan Admin? And yes, please post the SHVERA bill for us all to read.

I just did in the last post. :rolleyes:

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 02:22 AM

You are not making any sense nor have you provided proof to counter anything I have said this morning. When someone has to turn fact into their FAQ w/out substance and is now insulted, you are now gone from radar.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 02:24 AM

3:22am

You are not making any sense nor have you provided proof to counter anything I have said this morning and when someone has to turn fact into their FAQ w/out substance and is now insulted, you are gone from radar.

Goodnight. Hope the English teachers reading recover soon. :D

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 12:56 AM

And as usual you BS you way through your fact without providing any actual. Post FCC and Congress links. Excuse me, the topic is not English Grammar, it's Government / Congress effecting DNS. Obviously you are on the wrong forum or simply feel a need to deflect the topic due to your lack of knowledge on the subject.

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Posted 11 February 2005 - 01:12 AM

Post FCC and Congress links.

Been there, done that. Please cease the personal attacks. Thanks.

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 09:33 PM

Posted an old stale link about the Reagan admin, which has nothing to do with current DNS or SHVERA. Has yet to post any link to current DNS or SHVERA fact. When summoned to produce DNS or SHVERA fact, instead, deflected the question by attacking grammar. Now requesting martyr status.


It is a "public" attack, that you have contributed the square root / zero to this topic so far.

This link however, is interesting...
http://www.satellite...?t=47508&page=2

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Posted 12 February 2005 - 11:45 PM

This link however, is interesting...
http://www.satellite...?t=47508&page=2

DirecTV can choose to discontinue distants at any time to any customer that they want. There is no requirement that distants be offered to anyone, and it appears that DirecTV is taking that option by giving people the choices they have offered. People with both distants and locals pre-SHVERA should be able to keep both as part of the new grandfathering. But DirecTV has chosen not to offer that grandfathering.

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