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#1 OFFLINE   GADAWG

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 09:50 PM

any news on this switch?

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#2 OFFLINE   dishsystems

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 11:50 AM

any news on this switch?

Its in testing right now at dish...will be released soon.If you cant wait you can check with Spaun to see if their version is out yet.DP splitters are supposed to be out soon too.

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 01:22 PM

what is a dp splitters?

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 01:51 PM

Remember, the DPP-44 has three purposes:

1) Allow four orbital locations to be received and switched simultaneously.
2) Provide seemless support for legacy and DishPro receivers.
3) Allow two tuner receivers to be served by a single line.

The "DishPro Splitters" are the special devices used with the DPP-44 to allow two tuner receivers (e.g. the 921) to be fed with just a single output of the DPP-44. These only work with the DPP-44, though, and the receiver has to support "DishProPlus" technology, but most two-tuner receivers should (with appropriate software updates).

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 06:59 PM

Remember, the DPP-44 has three purposes:

1) Allow four orbital locations to be received and switched simultaneously.
2) Provide seemless support for legacy and DishPro receivers.
3) Allow two tuner receivers to be served by a single line.

The "DishPro Splitters" are the special devices used with the DPP-44 to allow two tuner receivers (e.g. the 921) to be fed with just a single output of the DPP-44. These only work with the DPP-44, though, and the receiver has to support "DishProPlus" technology, but most two-tuner receivers should (with appropriate software updates).


Actually, only the 322/522/942 support DP+. The 721 and 921 do not. They are only DP, and will still need 2 direct feeds unless they update them. Also, they are going to issue a DP+ Twin LNBF for an up to 3 sat, 4 tuner/2 receiver config. There will be a 3rd port on the Twin for the input from a DP single LNBF for the 61.5/148 location. DP+44's will retail for $159, and will be included in a 4 sat config. DP+ Twins are not out yet and no pricing is available.

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 10:25 PM

Actually, only the 322/522/942 support DP+. The 721 and 921 do not. They are only DP, and will still need 2 direct feeds unless they update them. Also, they are going to issue a DP+ Twin LNBF for an up to 3 sat, 4 tuner/2 receiver config. There will be a 3rd port on the Twin for the input from a DP single LNBF for the 61.5/148 location. DP+44's will retail for $159, and will be included in a 4 sat config. DP+ Twins are not out yet and no pricing is available.


Previous reports posted elsewhere have alluded to the 721 working perfectly well with the DPP44 switch.

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 10:44 PM

PLEASE folks! It is NOT a splitter - let's not confuse people and cause threads like "The Radio Shack splitter I plugged into the feeds on my 522 caused ..."

The term is Separator.

Just for reference, it appears to have more in common with a diplexer than a splitter.
"I agreed with Bogy thrice in 5353 posts. That means he's wrong 99.94% of the time."
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DishDVR 921, B: 120B, F: F051, V: L211HECD-N@04-Dec-07, L212@05-Mar-01, L213@Apr-01, L215@Jun-29, L216@Jul-23, L218@Jul-28, L219@Aug-11, L270@Sep-14, L272@Oct-28, L273@Dec-08, L274@Mar-08, L275@Mar-23, L276HECD-N@06-Mar-31.
DP-Twin=110/119, DP Single=148, into a DP34, DP Dual=61.5, into DP21s to add 61.5

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Posted 25 June 2004 - 12:38 AM

Just for reference, it appears to have more in common with a diplexer than a splitter.

Closer to a Legacy receiver to DP switch/LNB adapter - but certainly a LOT more to it than a RS signal splitter.

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Posted 25 June 2004 - 09:48 PM

Also, just in the interest of completeness...The 44 is a powered switch, and will require a power inserter on line one.

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 10:17 AM

Previous reports posted elsewhere have alluded to the 721 working perfectly well with the DPP44 switch.


Actually, I meant to say that the 721 is NOT a DP+ receiver, and I now know that the 921 is. The 721 will always require 2 feeds while the DP+ receviers only require 1 wire from a DP+ switch.

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 07:07 PM

Actually, I meant to say that the 721 is NOT a DP+ receiver, and I now know that the 921 is. The 721 will always require 2 feeds while the DP+ receviers only require 1 wire from a DP+ switch.


My Dishrep says otherwise. According to him, the 721 will get a software upgrade to support the DPP44.
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Posted 27 June 2004 - 10:02 PM

Actually, last I heard (I think it was from Mark L, who tends to know these things), the 921 did not have DP+ support yet either.
"I agreed with Bogy thrice in 5353 posts. That means he's wrong 99.94% of the time."
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DishDVR 921, B: 120B, F: F051, V: L211HECD-N@04-Dec-07, L212@05-Mar-01, L213@Apr-01, L215@Jun-29, L216@Jul-23, L218@Jul-28, L219@Aug-11, L270@Sep-14, L272@Oct-28, L273@Dec-08, L274@Mar-08, L275@Mar-23, L276HECD-N@06-Mar-31.
DP-Twin=110/119, DP Single=148, into a DP34, DP Dual=61.5, into DP21s to add 61.5

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 10:23 PM

Well being that the DPP44 switch hasn't been released yet, why would there be a need to release the software for it?

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 12:02 AM

Well being that the DPP44 switch hasn't been released yet, why would there be a need to release the software for it?

Thinking ahead?


Oh, wait. I forgot. This is E* - the company that announced 50 HDs on 105 when even the predicted footprint told them that the old bird would be unusable for nationwide service. (New bird is ConUS plus Alaska and Hawaii - in August.)

They didn't think ahead then, why start now. :D

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 02:07 AM

Well being that the DPP44 switch hasn't been released yet, why would there be a need to release the software for it?

I was just responding to larrystotler's incorrect statement.

Bottom line is that the 721 & 921 will both have DP+ support sometime soon.

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 10:25 PM

I was just responding to larrystotler's incorrect statement.

Bottom line is that the 721 & 921 will both have DP+ support sometime soon.


I was wrong. Damn! Hate it when that happens.......... :)

Anyway, the 921 actually says DP+ on it. As for the 721, as far as I have been told, it won't be DP+. However, since they are using that DP+ seperator, I would assume that I s/w update would be able to add it to the box.
Of course, I had a dish rep tell me saturday that the DP+ Twins are out there now, and I have yet to see one........so I couldn''t confirm if the 921 would work with DP+ out of the box if I wanted to :(
While the DP+ setup would save wiring, you still have to "split" the signal at the box. Having it built into the box, say running a DP+ feed into input 1 and using both for the other feeds would have been a nicer touch. Compression fittings run us about $0.25 each, so......

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Posted 28 June 2004 - 11:29 PM

Yeah - not having a switchable separator built-in to the box was typical E* design idiocy.

As for the 921 actually saying DishPro Plus, well there's 2 ports that say DishWire, plus another 2 that have the USB trademark. "Well, there's your clue".

As for it being added in a software update, of course it can - it's nothing more than some new switch command codes, and some tuner control.




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