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Rumor: More DirecTV High Definition Info


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#1 OFFLINE   Chris Blount

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 11:59 AM

I've just received the following information:

HD football will be on channels 90 - 98 every week.

NBC HD East/West and Bravo HD will not be up until September now.

Olympic HD channels will be up August 13th

DirecTV is currently working on all kinds of interactive services in addition to Mosaic.

I know this is nothing new but DirecTV will have tons of HD content in the near future. I can't give specifics at this time but all I have to say is "Watch out Voom!"

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:05 PM

You tease.

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:11 PM

I've heard these kinds of promises before.
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#4 OFFLINE   Chris Blount

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:14 PM

I've heard this kind of promises before.


I know, I really hate doing that but the ball is definitely in motion for DirecTV. All will be revealed in time.

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:24 PM

Will this additional content be out before 2005?

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:37 PM

Will this additional content be out before 2005?

That's hard to say at this time. I guess I should have specified that "near future" means over the coming months. I would suspect though that by 2005, there will be plenty to watch. :)

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:48 PM

I've just received the following information:

HD football will be on channels 90 - 98 every week.

NBC HD East/West and Bravo HD will not be up until September now.

Olympic HD channels will be up August 13th

DirecTV is currently working on all kinds of interactive services in addition to Mosaic.

I know this is nothing new but DirecTV will have tons of HD content in the near future. I can't give specifics at this time but all I have to say is "Watch out Voom!"

so does this mean we wont get the olympic feeds via nbc hd now ???
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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:54 PM

The Olympic HD feed has always going to be on the special events channel and DirecTV has announced it as such on their web site. Channel 84. Nothing to do with NBC-HD.

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:58 PM

I've just received the following information:

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NBC HD East/West and Bravo HD will not be up until September now.
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So, thus this mean that if I live in a O & O NBC area w\o OTA reception, I could get NBC east HD????

What if I cannot get OTA NBC, could I try for a waiver from local NBC station if not O & O????

Is there a list of O & O NBC stations????
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#10 OFFLINE   Scott Greczkowski

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:59 PM

You will get the Olympics if you live in an area where you are allowed to get them. They will be carried by DirecTV in HD, just DirecTV is not adding WNBC or KNBC to their lineups until after the olympics, instead they will be carrying a direct HDTV feed from NBC for the Olympics.

Thanks Chris for decyphering those press releases and my posts at the other site.

How long ago did I say that DirecTV told me "look out VOOM" for its HD offerings? From what I know DirecTV will basically be offering all regular domestic HD offerings, however VOOM will still have the benifit of all 21 of their exclusive channels which keep on improving all the time.

The funny thing about this is it seems Dish is just sitting on their hands as DirecTV gets ready to ramp up on things.

All in all the consumer will win out. :)

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 01:38 PM

Found the resource here:
http://www.nationmas...-NBC-affiliates

Los Angeles - KNBC-TV/KNBC-DT [NBC 4 (NBC O&O)]
San Diego - KNSD-TV/KNSD-DT [NBC 7/39 (NBC O&O)]
San Francisco - San Jose - KNTV-TV [NBC 11/cable 3 (NBC O&O)]
Hartford, CN - New Britain - WVIT-TV/WVIT-DT(35) [NBC 30 (NBC O&O)]
Washington, DC - WRC-TV/WRC-DT(48) [NBC 4 (NBC O&O)]
Miami - WTVJ-TV(6)/WTVJ-DT(31) [NBC 6 (NBC O&O)]
Chicago - WMAQ-TV/WMAQ-DT(29) [NBC 5 (NBC O&O)]
New York, NY WNBC-TV/WNBC-DT [NBC 4 (NBC O&O)]
Providence WJAR-TV/WJAR-DT [NBC 10 (NBC O&O)]

It does not have all of them. I also found this which may be more complete:
http://www.nationmas...casting-Company

NBC supplies programming to more than 200 American affiliated stations. It owns and operates stations in
Chicago,
Philadelphia,
Los Angeles,
Miami,
New York City,
Washington, DC,
San Jose,
Dallas/Fort Worth,
San Diego,
Hartford, Connecticut,
Raleigh, North Carolina,
Columbus, Ohio,
Birmingham, Alabama, and
Providence, Rhode Island.
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Posted 05 August 2004 - 04:36 PM

So, no info about TNT-HD?


DirecTV, please don't make me have to go back to watching March Madness in standard Def! Oh, and the usual begging for AMC and BBC America. You are so close to actually being the HD Leader.

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 05:29 PM

On June 28th, EIGHTEEN MONTHS LATE, DirecTV finally got 7S up and running. Freeing up space for HD offerings and space on the main sat for more SD offerings. And with nothing to do be sit and wait for the gang that couldn't shoot straight to get 7S up they had plenty of time to plan what to do with that space.

And now, almost 2 months later, DirecTV has added, .....

NOTHING.

It has "plans" for the future. Right.

The day the capacity was available they should have had stuff up and ready to fill it.

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 06:01 PM

First they had to make sure that 7s works . second they had to transfer all the locals they were planning to move to the new sat.Third they have to upgrade those users who needed the new dish to keep there locals and give themselves time to do this .Fourth they have to get aggrements to carry those channels which they probley couldnt do until 7s was up and running .i rather they make sure everything works before they announce or add anything but thats just me
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Posted 05 August 2004 - 06:46 PM

I know this is nothing new but DirecTV will have tons of HD content in the near future. I can't give specifics at this time but all I have to say is "Watch out Voom!"

And will they be recompressing this content as well? Will they have to push it to 8mbps to make it all fit? Or will they [ever] have sufficient bandwidth to stop recompressing any HD content? They can't even pass through their current HD content untouched. *shrug*

More HD content != good HD content

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 08:12 PM

ANY HD is much better than crappy cable with NO HD available...even if it is a little compressed!

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2050 more likely than 2005. Must have been a typo.

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Posted 06 August 2004 - 11:26 AM

I've just received the following information:

HD football will be on channels 90 - 98 every week.

NBC HD East/West and Bravo HD will not be up until September now.

Olympic HD channels will be up August 13th

DirecTV is currently working on all kinds of interactive services in addition to Mosaic.

I know this is nothing new but DirecTV will have tons of HD content in the near future. I can't give specifics at this time but all I have to say is "Watch out Voom!"


Do you know if any of these HD channels will be on sat. 101?

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Posted 06 August 2004 - 07:32 PM

First they had to make sure that 7s works . second they had to transfer all the locals they were planning to move to the new sat.Third they have to upgrade those users who needed the new dish to keep there locals and give themselves time to do this .Fourth they have to get aggrements to carry those channels which they probley couldnt do until 7s was up and running .i rather they make sure everything works before they announce or add anything but thats just me


We're not getting squat until football season is over. Directv 8 is due in the first quarter '05 when we'll see some additions and 9S in the second quarter '05 will really start freeing ups ome space. They have room for NBC, Fox, Football and Bravo now. Once football is over, then we'll see some additions. Let's just hope D* 8 and 9S don't blow up on the pad.

Sorry, just wanna puke at all the hype.

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Posted 06 August 2004 - 09:37 PM

8 and 9S are backups or replacements for what is already up there. They won't free up that much bandwidth without running the risk of loss of service should one of the main sats fail.

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 07:51 AM

8 and 9S are backups or replacements for what is already up there. They won't free up that much bandwidth without running the risk of loss of service should one of the main sats fail.

Not so...both 8S and 9S were "re-speced" to include more bandwidth than their original ordered requirements. In addition, with the advent of the 7S migration, as well as 2 other Skyway sats THIS year (one is up already), there will be a ton of new potential bandwidth, if and when D*TV wants to use it.

The real question boils down to D*TV's general mentality to add HD content when they feel there is "a legitimate market demand" and "desired content".
Carey has been, in particular, been heard many times saying "we don't just want to broadcast HD content for the sake of saying so like some other content providers" (obviously Voom). He has also said "We intend on being the HD provider leader, and will continue to add HD programming as we see a viable market for this content". My guess is seeing Voom getting less than 25,000 subscribers in their first 9 months of business isn't much of a concern - not when they've added 20 times that many in just the last 3 months.

In short, when D*TV sees a market demand for more HD, and the content providers ante up and provide some quality content, D*TV will have it. Clearly, they don't want to withdraw something in the HD channel stable after it's been released (big mistake)....so they're taking a slower, "let's give it some thought" approach.

Yes, that makes many of us impatient, but it's a sound business practice.

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 11:45 AM

On June 28th, EIGHTEEN MONTHS LATE, DirecTV finally got 7S up and running. Freeing up space for HD offerings and space on the main sat for more SD offerings. And with nothing to do be sit and wait for the gang that couldn't shoot straight to get 7S up they had plenty of time to plan what to do with that space.

And now, almost 2 months later, DirecTV has added, .....

NOTHING.

It has "plans" for the future. Right.

The day the capacity was available they should have had stuff up and ready to fill it.


Now Now Now.....

I got back from a trip last night and my TIVO had several new channels of PPV available that I had to block out..

So they have added something with their gained capacity.

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 12:18 PM

On June 28th, EIGHTEEN MONTHS LATE, DirecTV finally got 7S up and running. Freeing up space for HD offerings and space on the main sat for more SD offerings.

This link is the press release from Loral stating an expected delivery date of late 2003. Hardly 18 months late. Maybe EIGHT months late.

And with nothing to do be sit and wait for the gang that couldn't shoot straight to get 7S up they had plenty of time to plan what to do with that space.

And now, almost 2 months later, DirecTV has added, .....

NOTHING.

The day the capacity was available they should have had stuff up and ready to fill it.

Of course nothing has been added. DirecTV has only regained about four transponders of space at 119 and nothing at 101 by use of the DirecTV 7S satellite. All of the space has not become available, yet. The eight markets on CONUS transponders at 101 have not been migrated to 119 (DirecTV 7S) yet. DirecTV is probably trying to get all their subscribers in the eight markets where DirecTV will be migrating those local markets to install the elliptical satellite dish to continue to receive their local channels.

Not so...both 8S and 9S were "re-speced" to include more bandwidth than their original ordered requirements. In addition, with the advent of the 7S migration, as well as 2 other Skyway sats THIS year (one is up already), there will be a ton of new potential bandwidth, if and when D*TV wants to use it.

DirecTV 8 will be including a Ka-band payload. This was the only re-specfication on this satellite. DirecTV 9S will resemble DirecTV 7S and has not be re-speced.

The first of the Spaceway birds is not due to launch until the middle of next year.

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Posted 10 August 2004 - 09:02 AM

...is the press release from Loral stating an expected delivery date of late 2003. Hardly 18 months late. Maybe EIGHT months late.


Not counting the fact it was scheduled to be launched in early Feb. '04 but delayed a couple months because the previous sat launch of a similar satellite went wrong and the sat was disabled. Somehow I think waiting a couple extra months for them to make sure that the same problem didn't occur so that 7S didn't become a hunk of space junk was worth it.

All in all you could say that 7S was dealyed *maybe* 4 months longer then planned, 6 if you push it. Like Greg said, certainly no 18 months.

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Posted 14 August 2004 - 05:34 PM

Still, I must agree, D*TV could do something about adding more HD, ASAP, i.e. TNT-HD. Dish has been getting TNT-HD since the western conference finals back in May, along with Law and Order (sorry but it's a great show), some NASCAR, as well as other programming. I watch TNT quite a bit and would love to have it in HD. Why we don't get it, I'm pretty sure, is a contract negotiaton that is going slowly.

Also, will they be offering USA-HD anytime? Just curious, they show a lot of movies and etc.
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