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#1 OFFLINE   Steveox

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Posted 08 August 2004 - 06:44 PM

Charlie told us all to contact our congressmen to help dishnetwork to get more channels.The reason why dishnetwork cannot get more channels because the laws prevent them to.So i contacted mark foley ® Congressman from florida this is what he e-mailed me back.

Thanks for contacting me about your satellite television service. I
appreciate hearing from you.

The 1999 Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act (SHVIA) extended and
expanded upon provisions of the 1988 Satellite Home Viewer Act (SHVA). In
passing SHVA and SHVIA, Congress has attempted to balance the interests
of the broadcast, satellite, and cable industries, with the goal of
ensuring that as many households as possible have access to free local
television programming, while also enabling consumers to have as much
choice as possible both in TV programming and service providers.

SHVA, enacted in the early days of satellite television, allowed
satellite companies to retransmit broadcast network and superstation
programming only to households that could not receive "viewable" signals via
over-the-air antennas because they are too distant from the transmitters,
or in areas where TV signals are blocked by buildings or terrain
(formally called "unserved households"). The limitation was designed to
protect the nationwide system of broadcast network affiliates, which depend
on advertising revenue based on their number of viewers. The goal is
to preserve "localism," where consumers can watch local news, weather,
and community-oriented programs. The availability of local programming
is largely dependent on network affiliates, which in turn are dependent
on viewers. Under SHVA, satellite companies could retransmit broadcast
network programming only to unserved households, so the majority of
viewers would watch their local affiliate. But the small percentage of
consumers in unserved households could also receive network programs,
even though they came from an "out-of-market" affiliate. These out-of
market signals are called "distant network signals."

SHVA created a five-year "compulsory copyright license" wherein
satellite companies may retransmit distant network signals to unserved
households without permission from the copyright owners, and the government
sets the price the satellite companies pay as copyright royalties. The
satellite companies pay the royalties to the Copyright Office of the
Library of Congress, which passes them on to the copyright owners. A
similar compulsory copyright license was given to cable companies in 1976,
although the cable license is permanent. The satellite distant network
signal license is codified in §119 of the Copyright Act (Title 17
U.S.C.), and was renewed for another five years in 1994. It was extended
for a further five years in SHVIA, and is now set to expire on December
31, 2004.

In addition to extending the distant network signal compulsory license,
SHVIA significantly expanded upon SHVA by allowing satellite companies
to retransmit local broadcast network programming back into the same
market area where it originated--called "local-into-local" service. The
law permits, but does not require, satellite companies to offer
local-into-local service. SHVIA created a royalty-free compulsory copyright
license for local-into-local satellite signals that is codified in §122
of the Copyright Act, and is permanent, like the cable license. As of
June 7, 2004, EchoStar offered local-into-local in 128 of the 210
Designated Market Areas (DMAs) in the country. DirecTV offered it in 77
DMAs, and plans to increase that number to at least 130 by the end of
2004. Under SHVIA, subscribers in DMAs where local-into-local is offered
may also receive distant network signals if they meet the eligibility
requirements.

The distinction between local and distant network signals is important
for understanding SHVIA. A local signal is received within a broadcast
network television affiliate's local market area. A distant network
signal is from elsewhere in the country. For example, if a consumer
lives in Denver and receives a signal from a Denver network affiliate, that
is a local signal. If a consumer lives in West Virginia and receives a
signal from that Denver network affiliate via satellite, it is a
distant network signal.

The Congress is currently working on legislation to expand consumer
choice in satellite viewing. Thanks again for contacting me on this
issue.

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#2 OFFLINE   travrichard99

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Posted 08 August 2004 - 08:43 PM

Someday the U.S. government will realize that it's become a shadow of what it used to be. Someday, we'll get leaders that force the government to realize that things like the "sin taxes" on alcohol and tobacco... things like SHVA and SHVIA... are over-governing. That taxing someone for the right to "sin" is not something THEY have any right to do. That telling us what television stations we have a right to watch is not something the government should decide. That the men and women who "represent" us in the government long ago ceased representing anything the average american "wants".... Someday we will realize that the U.S. government has become a puppet to the strings of the lobbyists and the pocketbooks of big business. Someday our "leaders" will realize that they sold out. Someday WE will realize the definition of free... and realize that we are not.

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Posted 08 August 2004 - 10:29 PM

Well what we need is a DBS lobbyist. I nominate chris blount to go down to washington to lobby for us DBS viewers. Maybe enough politicans will vote for new changes to DBS laws.

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 02:35 AM

Richard,

Your post is my cue to remind everyone that the SHVA, the updated SHVIA and the new SHVRIA being worked out in Congress are laws that "overrule" current laws that would make it nearly impossible for satellite systems to carry ANY local channels or ANY network channels to ANYONE.

It is my cue to remind everyone that it was satellite owners in the 80's crying out over networks and stations pulling their signals off the satellite spectrum or scrambling their signal and refusing to sell it to the average schmo that made Congress create the SHVA in the first place!

These laws set the guidelines where the satellite companies can thumb their nose at copyright laws and regional exclusivity contracts the stations have with the distributors and copyright owners.

Everyone please keep this in mind when vilifying the SHVIA and its successor.

See ya
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For the life of me I will never understand why people will pay hundreds and thousands of dollars on a TV that provides the clearest, sharpest, most realistic picture possible and then, voluntarily, distort the image!

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 09:36 AM

Tony's right, of course. But it's annoying to consider that anyone with sufficient OTA antennae can pick up a station's broadcast for free, but if anyone dares assist the viewer in watching the same station, somebody's gotta pay extra money to the folks who own the shows.

I really like the Canadian stance -- if it's OTA, anyone can spread it around for free. Oh well.
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Posted 09 August 2004 - 10:38 AM

Health care coverage in the U.S. is pathetic... Our Education system is continously getting worse... We are in a war... This should not be an issue... and never should have been... today or when broadcast television first became an issue... it simply is not what a government, especially the U.S. government, is for. They aren't there to govern EVERY SINGLE THING in an american's life... but they are moving that way. They whould provide for a good infrastructure, good health care, good education, good defense... beyond that, and the bondary is getting pushed... they are invading in on our "freedoms". I am NOT free to go smoke a cigarette... if I want to, I have to pay the government for there permission... any a few states now...I am NOT free to pick up microwave satellite signals from space... if I want to, I must pay the state for their permission. It's all an invasion of our freedoms and we sit back and let it all happen... in 100 years, we'll be told how often we are allowed to bath... and what our weekly allotment of toilet paper is. And we'll have to pay an "air tax" so we can get permission to breathe. The fact is, the U.S. government or any government has about as much authority to rule over a people as your dog has. The only authority they have is preceived by the people being ruled... Nobody owns this land and it will still be here, mocking our childish ways long after the human race has expired. A government's perceived authority, especially ours, should be that which the people willingly give the government. That was the idea when it was formed... now, the government takes it upon itself to claim authority over an ever-increasing amount of things... it's a very dangerous thing. It has become an entity OUTSIDE of the people... no longer OF THE PEOPLE. It's the law of entropy... everything proceeds to a higher disorder... it's a law of nature... something that has REAL authority.... Just as the gulf stream is quickly shutting itself down and the magnetic polarization of the earth is quickly destablizing... so must everything else.

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 10:48 AM

Carload, I agree but not to the degree you take it. I feel that the law should be a two tier "compromise":

A station within the DMA it must be carried (Essentially the way the law is now)

A station that provides
1) a grade B signal within the municipalities named in the DMA title in the top 50 markets
2) or to the POP in the remaining markets may also be carried at the satellite company's option.

Simple to implement. Protective to most station's area. Prevents the satellite company from putting a POP in a top 50 market at the edge of the DMA to import stations. But allows for "significantly viewed" stations to neighboring DMAs without some 50 page document to difine everything.

I can dream, can't I? :) I know this is too simple for Congress to even think of it!

See ya
Tony
For the life of me I will never understand why people will pay hundreds and thousands of dollars on a TV that provides the clearest, sharpest, most realistic picture possible and then, voluntarily, distort the image!

"Dish Channel Chart"
"Local Channels available and coming to Dish"
"TV Market Maps"

#8 OFFLINE   Mark Holtz

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 12:58 PM

That is a very detailed response from the Congrtessman. I've moved it to the SHIVA forum.

If you want to discuss issues which are not specific to SHIVA (i.e. health care), please post then in the Potpourri forum. Thank you. - Holtz
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#9 OFFLINE   Steveox

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 01:01 PM

Mark Why don't you lobby for us? We need someone to speak for us.

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 01:22 PM

Gee, I wonder why they've never thought of having lobbyists...


Duh.. geeze man... :uglyhamme :uglyhamme

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Posted 09 August 2004 - 02:18 PM

They have lobbyists in the form of the SBCA.
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Posted 09 August 2004 - 03:37 PM

Folks, Congressman Steve Chabot is going to be on a live call-in show on Cincinnati public access channel 24 TONIGHT 8pm-9pm

513-825-3971. The screening is "What part of town are you from?" Pick a town/sub-urb in Hamilton County, OH. Ask a question!

Be sure to block your caller ID if you are calling from outside the Hamilton County/Metro 24 area.

See ya
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Posted 15 August 2004 - 09:04 AM

They have lobbyists in the form of the SBCA.


If your are going to depend on SBCA you might as well just turn off the tv's now and look for another form of entertainment...

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Posted 15 August 2004 - 09:16 AM

Mark Why don't you lobby for us? We need someone to speak for us.



I nominate you Steve!
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Posted 15 August 2004 - 10:35 AM

"The Unknown Poster" should change his sig. line. :D
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Posted 17 August 2004 - 02:54 AM

Mark can do a better job then i would Geronimo.




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